I'm the Man, you can all Thank Me

[Kraks_Aforty]

Gaige is now a bruiser, I made him betray.Yes, I am the man.<div></div>

[Gungo]

<P>OMG NOES </P> <P>lol yeah i figured gaige would =) always wanted to be a cool guy. And that miti buff</P>

[Colossaltitan]

<DIV>Crac, I officially think less of you.<BR><BR>Thanks, the Bruiser community just got less intelligent!</DIV>

[TheSummoned]

<img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> No... No... NOOO!!! *jumps off* <div></div>

[ganjookie]

welcome to the fold G<div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Colossaltitan wrote:<BR> <DIV>Crac, I officially think less of you.<BR><BR>Thanks, the Bruiser community just got less intelligent!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Aren't you a necro?

[Kram337]

You're not serious are you? I better go check the dirge board for a simlar post from Gaige on Cracatoa.<div></div>

[Thail]

I am a Bruiser but still somehow feal dirtier now.http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=295742103<div></div>

[Aburai]

<div><blockquote><hr>ganjookie wrote:welcome to the fold G<div></div><hr></blockquote>Well what do ya know <span>:smileysurprised:</span>..  I second that notion</div>

[Gobbwin]

HAHAHAHAHA!!  For all of his "monkish pride" he still fell to the dark side.  If you decide to stay, then welcome, if this was just for kicks, the door is right over there.

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>Thats funny.   Really funny.  </DIV>

[Mentla]

Takes a lot of fun out of these boards tbh.  They joy in pointing out the obvious fact that all monks are [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] was that one of them was reading it. **lament** And did they nerf Phayax's sig in LU24? <div></div>

[Colossaltitan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Colossaltitan wrote:<BR> <DIV>Crac, I officially think less of you.<BR><BR>Thanks, the Bruiser community just got less intelligent!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Aren't you a necro?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>70 Necro, 70 Bruiser, 66 Warden actually.

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gobbwin wrote:<BR> HAHAHAHAHA!!  For all of his "monkish pride" he still fell to the dark side.  If you decide to stay, then welcome, if this was just for kicks, the door is right over there.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Chicks dig mit.  Its vey real.  I doubt I'd spend like 85pp for kicks.<BR>

[J4k]

<DIV>atleast your sig makes somewhat sense now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I dont think a monk was ever power made flesh. and never made anyone feel weak <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[scalzo]

<DIV>Guess u never dueled me then :smileytongue:</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gobbwin wrote:<BR> HAHAHAHAHA!!  For all of his "monkish pride" he still fell to the dark side.  If you decide to stay, then welcome, if this was just for kicks, the door is right over there.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Chicks dig mit.  Its vey real.  I doubt I'd spend like 85pp for kicks.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well what can I say ! to be honest who thought the sensi of monks would betray for brusier and yes like he says i doubt its short term as its cost a hell of a lot ... BUT welcome to the brusier community Gaige if you can do half the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] you did for monks to us then fair play no matter what they guys say you do seem to carry a little favoritism with the devs .. heres to the new arrival ... now then time to get laid hun being a celebate monk all that time must have hurt ... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>p.s Can you now give an unbiased opinion on monks v brusier pls ... what you think so far ?</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

What i really want to know is how *probably* the best kitted brusier in the game performs now and btw i want a screenie pls gaige so i can link it in the stickies for all time !

[Thail]

<div></div>[QUOTE] What i really want to know is how *probably* the best kitted brusier in the game performs now and btw i want a screenie pls gaige so i can link it in the stickies for all time ! [QUOTE]Wipe your mouth there is brown stuff on it.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Thail on <span class=date_text>06-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:45 AM</span>

[Owa]

<P><FONT face=Garamond><FONT size=4>At least we know all our nerfs will be reversed now.</FONT>  <FONT size=4>A literal case of Dev love...</FONT></FONT></P> <P> </P>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> annaspider wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face=Garamond><FONT size=4>At least we know all our nerfs will be reversed now.</FONT>  <FONT size=4>A literal case of Dev love...</FONT></FONT></P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Exactly with the G man we will be soloing epics in no time hehe

[Gungo]

<P>From veiwing gaige gear he is probably the closest to capped a brawler can get. In other words. He has set up his gear to have reached the defense, parry, and deflection caps of 420. He has almost all the best +mitigation gear he can get as well as near fully mastered. His former pictures in the monk forums showed 84%+ avoidance raid buffed. As a bruiser he should be hitting 76+%mitgation and ~80% avodiance. So yes quite litterly he would be close to the best geared bruiser, But remeber bruisers other then our self heal. Do not have the saving grace of many other fighter classes such as tower of stone, tsunami, VoM, the warrior agi AA, etc. So i would truly like to see how well the best geared bruiser can tank in comparison to guards etc. Are we really balanced or Not.</P> <P>It has already been shown bezerkers and guards can tank pretty much all the content in T7. It has been shown zerkers can do similar if not higher DPS in some situations then brawlers. The question now becomes can the best geared bruiser in game be comparable. Can a bruiser tank all the content in T7 and can a bruiser do approximately the same overall DPS as a zerker.</P><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class=date_text>06-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:49 AM</span>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> From veiwing gaige gear he is probably the closest to capped a brawler can get. In other words. He has set up his gear to have reached the defense, parry, and deflection caps of 420. He has almost all the best +mitigation gear he can get as well as near fully mastered. His former pictures in the monk forums showed 84%+ avoidance raid buffed. As a bruiser he should be hitting 76+%mitgation and ~80% avodiance. So yes quite litterly he would be close to the best geared bruiser, But remeber bruisers other then our self heal. Do not have the saving grace of many other fighter classes such as tower of stone, tsunami, VoM, the warrior agi AA, etc. So i would truly like to see how well the best geared bruiser can tank in comparison to guards etc. Are we really balanced or Not.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thats exactly what i want to see to. As much as we might think hes a walking [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] with a huge ego gaige IS arguably as mentioned the best equipted bruiser out there in a very good raid guild to so now we will know if we do compete better when kitted

[J4k]

<DIV>ooo gaige your so uberly equiped barwwwlor can i get in yo pants!!!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Revjak18]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gungo wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>He has almost all the best +mitigation gear he can get as well as near fully mastered.</p><hr></blockquote>Fully adept III'ed now <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />(I'd assume he had all the spongy's ready when he betrayed)Effrum70 Bruiser of Second DawnNajena</div>

[TheSummoned]

<blockquote><hr>Revjak18 wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Gungo wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>He has almost all the best +mitigation gear he can get as well as near fully mastered.</p><hr></blockquote>Fully adept III'ed now <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />(I'd assume he had all the spongy's ready when he betrayed)Effrum70 Bruiser of Second DawnNajena</div><hr></blockquote>Probably a few masters too, since they didn't have a bruiser in the guild till he betrayed <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Gaige]

Yeah fully adept 3 with 14 masters.  Its going to be a pain to find retribution and the debuff, but I have most of the important other ones.

[TheSummoned]

Yea, Eye Gash M1 is really rare. I suspect it wasn't even disco'd on all the servers.

[Aaliel Stonefists]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> <P>From veiwing gaige gear he is probably the closest to capped a brawler can get. In other words. He has set up his gear to have reached the defense, parry, and deflection caps of 420. He has almost all the best +mitigation gear he can get as well as near fully mastered. His former pictures in the monk forums showed 84%+ avoidance raid buffed. As a bruiser he should be hitting 76+%mitgation and ~80% avodiance. So yes quite litterly he would be close to the best geared bruiser, But remeber bruisers other then our self heal. Do not have the saving grace of many other fighter classes such as tower of stone, tsunami, VoM, the warrior agi AA, etc. So i would truly like to see how well the best geared bruiser can tank in comparison to guards etc. Are we really balanced or Not.</P> <P>It has already been shown bezerkers and guards can tank pretty much all the content in T7. It has been shown zerkers can do similar if not higher DPS in some situations then brawlers. The question now becomes can the best geared bruiser in game be comparable. Can a bruiser tank all the content in T7 and can a bruiser do approximately the same overall DPS as a zerker.</P> <P>Message Edited by Gungo on <SPAN class=date_text>06-16-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:49 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You should check out my gear sometime then.  Currently I reach 6259 mitigation (with the 3 minute buff) and 84.3% avoidance in my prefered setup of warden, dirge, shaman, templar, paladin, or conjuror for the longer fights where power is an issue (those pet heals are really nice).  And I can most definitely say that a bruiser can tank all of the Tier 7 content.  I've already stood infront of the most damaging raid monsters out there for my guild, including Tarinax and Chel'dralak the dragon turtle or whatever his name is, that we tried tonight, though we did not kill the dragon turtle, I was standing up to it as well as our berserker.  I don't tank the multiple mob named encounters, because there isn't much of a point when we have two fully fabled berserkers that can do it better with a gibe/rampage/open wounds on the pull.  Sometimes I do set up to have an aggro war with them on the main named once the trash in the encounter is dead though.</P> <P> </P> <P>My weapons include the Scepter of Destruction, Bonetooth Skewer, Fist of Marr, Wurmslayer, the higher DR Twin Calamity, and The Mallet of the Overlord.  The Mallet of the Overlord works incredibly well for holding aggro, even enough for multiple mob encounters, but sadly cannot be used on the fight where I would want to use it the most, Tarinax.  I would love to get the hand of destruction for the deflection, but there is another guild on our server that always gets the 3 princes first, we have some crusader and warrior issues on that fight.</P> <P> </P> <P>The only masters I am missing are Retribution and Savage Bruising, but I am actively farming tier 6 to try and find Retribution or hoping someone puts it up for sale.  And hoping that savage bruising shows up in deathtoll soon.</P> <P> </P> <P>I was also the first tank to complete the new heroic instance in the adventure pack on our server, killing the x4 shadow bug, and then the x2 again after.</P><p>Message Edited by Aaliel Stonefists on <span class=date_text>06-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:20 AM</span>

[J4k]

<DIV>With that group set up id have about 6.4k - 6.5k mit and over 80% avoidance with prob close to 12khp.</DIV>

[Aaliel Stonefists]

<P>I prefer to use the dragonscale bracelet and choker of the accurita, rather than the aviak charm and the acid etched necklace, which would account for the mitigation.  I would use the bracelet from the amorphous drake, but that it has never dropped for my guild yet.  Maybe we'll get enough troll gut ropes that I can make them into a bracelet one day.</P> <P>Ah I see you have the dragon hero bracers also, I would pick them up if they ever drop here.</P><p>Message Edited by Aaliel Stonefists on <span class=date_text>06-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:30 AM</span>

[Gaige]

Aailiel gratz on all the raid tanking - cool to see other brawlers doing that stuff.

[Aaliel Stonefists]

<DIV>There is still a stigma against brawler tanks, but I am working on it.  It helps being the only raid leader for the guild right now as well, I just hate it when it doesn't feel like you are getting 100% out of everyone, especially the healers, because some people do not think you should be tanking.</DIV>

[Gungo]

<DIV>Thats good to here some brawler tank love on this board. Brawlers are effective tanks imho one of the best if they apply themselves to tank. Sadly many do not see brawlers as tanks, sometimes even other brawlers. Well good luck gaige and welcome to the exclusive club of tanking bruisers. Btw there is a world wide bruiser channle you should join i believe the link is on top of this board.</DIV>

The question isn't if a brawler can tank all of t7 content. Anything is possible if your really bored and have extra healers on hand, of course those extra healers replace dps which makes a fight all that more difficult. The question is why in gods name WOULD you have a brawler be a MT over a plate-tank. The answer 9/10 times is you wouldn't. There-in lies the problem soe needs to address...along with a miriad of other problems I doubt they will ever address.<div></div>

[Vorham]

<div></div>I have no doubts that brawlers can raid tank, esp. if the raid actually focuses on buffin em like they do the current plate tanks... problem is getting the other 23 peeps on the raid to agree to let you even try itHell, I had a guy leave group *tonight* because he saw my Bruiser was gonna be tankin HoF (!!!)... that's what we're up against<div></div><p>Message Edited by Vorham on <span class=date_text>06-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:57 PM</span>

[Thail]

<div></div>Had 2 Tanks on Tarinax our normal MT Covenant and <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/player.vm?characterId=419524201" target="_blank">Denubis</a> last week. So I know for a fact that it's possible for a Brawler to tank any T7 mobs. There was no extra ordinary setup either. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] he didn't even have a  Pally.  Denubis and I have compairable gear.  Far from "uber". Den just did a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good job. Brawlers all all about skill.  Always have been.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Thail on <span class=date_text>06-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:24 AM</span>

[Shizzirri]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kraks_Aforty wrote:<BR>Gaige is now a bruiser, I made him betray.<BR><BR>Yes, I am the man.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Was he drunk, hi, both?</P> <P>On a bright note you probably had someone actually loot your relic gear for a week or so...</P>