Can someone please clarify LU 24?

[Nahlis]

<DIV>Normally follow the forums pretty closely and was aware of the proposed changes (re: nerfs) on test.  However I've been out of town for about a week and now it seems some of them have been alleviated or retracted?  If someone could please reiterate for me exactly what changes ARE going through on LU 24 as of now I'd greatly appreciate it.</DIV>

[Colossaltitan]

The nerfs to Burn Through, Savage Bruisings, Sucker Punch, & what was the other one?<BR><BR>Are no longer happening.<BR><BR>However, the crit chance in are aa's is being reduced iirc.

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV>And our stuns Stifes being reduced but all in all not a bad LU this time thank god</DIV>

[RustyB]

<DIV>you guys forgot to mention about the huge nerf to our mezz and fear</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>went from a 25 sec mezz  30 sec recast  to a 10 sec mezz 1 min recast  I think</DIV>

[Mentla]

<blockquote><hr>RustyBallz wrote:<div>you guys forgot to mention about the huge nerf to our mezz and fear</div> <div> </div> <div>went from a 25 sec mezz  30 sec recast  to a 10 sec mezz 1 min recast  I think</div><hr></blockquote> I heard they were sticking them on the same timer? <div></div>

[TheSummoned]

<blockquote><hr>Mentla wrote:<blockquote><hr>RustyBallz wrote:<div>you guys forgot to mention about the huge nerf to our mezz and fear</div> <div> </div> <div>went from a 25 sec mezz  30 sec recast  to a 10 sec mezz 1 min recast  I think</div><hr></blockquote> I heard they were sticking them on the same timer? <div></div><hr></blockquote>That was only 1.) False interpretation of the community or 2.) Also undone<div></div>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RustyBallz wrote:<BR> <DIV>you guys forgot to mention about the huge nerf to our mezz and fear</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>went from a 25 sec mezz  30 sec recast  to a 10 sec mezz 1 min recast  I think</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>I heard they were sticking them on the same timer?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That was only<BR><BR>1.) False interpretation of the community<BR><BR>or<BR><BR>2.) Also undone<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Oh really? How are we to interpret this line then:</P>- Monk: Instill Doubt - Changed from a Bruiser to a Brawler ability.<BR>- Bruiser: Intimidate - <EM>This combat art line now shares its reuse timer with Instill Doubt.</EM><BR> <P>So if you use one, they both can't be reused until that timer is up.. hence the whole "sharing" concept.</P> <P>And it hasn't been stated as retracted yet. See for yourself: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=127" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=127</A> </P> <P> </P> <P>Now if it's not currently the case in Test, then I hope no one tells the Devs. But I can easily see this as a "didn't make it to test, but was lumped in with the code that went live, thereby skipping testing feedback" mistakes.. they've done it before, and admitted to it.</P> <P> </P> <P>What I'd like to know is what all this noise is about the rares needed for spell upgrades being changed around. There's been a lot of doomsayings about how my spongy loam stack will become useless to me with the next update, so you better use em up now!</P> <P>Is this just a scholar rumour done to make people spend cash?</P> <P>Also.. stats on rare crafted is being lowered... but only on newly made stuff, so better make it now. Oh, and only for T6 and lower, since T7 is already garbage compared to legendary drops it seems...</P> <P>Where is this news coming from?</P>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raidi Sovin'faile wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RustyBallz wrote:<BR> <DIV>you guys forgot to mention about the huge nerf to our mezz and fear</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>went from a 25 sec mezz  30 sec recast  to a 10 sec mezz 1 min recast  I think</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>I heard they were sticking them on the same timer?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That was only<BR><BR>1.) False interpretation of the community<BR><BR>or<BR><BR>2.) Also undone<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Oh really? How are we to interpret this line then:</P>- Monk: Instill Doubt - Changed from a Bruiser to a Brawler ability.<BR>- Bruiser: Intimidate - <EM>This combat art line now shares its reuse timer with Instill Doubt.</EM><BR> <P>So if you use one, they both can't be reused until that timer is up.. hence the whole "sharing" concept.</P> <P>And it hasn't been stated as retracted yet. See for yourself: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=127" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=127</A> </P> <P> </P> <P>Now if it's not currently the case in Test, then I hope no one tells the Devs. But I can easily see this as a "didn't make it to test, but was lumped in with the code that went live, thereby skipping testing feedback" mistakes.. they've done it before, and admitted to it.</P> <P> </P> <P>What I'd like to know is what all this noise is about the rares needed for spell upgrades being changed around. There's been a lot of doomsayings about how my spongy loam stack will become useless to me with the next update, so you better use em up now!</P> <P>Is this just a scholar rumour done to make people spend cash?</P> <P>Also.. stats on rare crafted is being lowered... but only on newly made stuff, so better make it now. Oh, and only for T6 and lower, since T7 is already garbage compared to legendary drops it seems...</P> <P>Where is this news coming from?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Didnt they change the timers on mez and fear so that they were no longer on the same timer ? im sure they did

[Nahlis]

<DIV>Thanks for the update folks.  Really hope they keep mez and fear off a shared timer.  The duration and recast changes are bad enough without it.  Very pleased to here dps is being left alone though, particularly on Savage Blows line.  It's one of my most reliable ways of grabbing AoE aggro in a pinch so unless they add a Hate component to it I'd really hate to see a dps nerf.</DIV>

[Gungo]

confirmed by me at least on test. Not on same timer. Although you are correct i dont remeber any notes retracting that update so maybe it is a bug =p 

[TheSummoned]

<div></div><div></div><div></div>Was basing my observations from people who tried it on test, so here's a big  <font size="7">: P<font size="4"> <font size="3"><font size="2">And yes, Mezz from what I can tell is still on a 60 second recast, same as fear. So it might be meant as Mezz recast was put on 60 seconds to be inline with Fear, but the community interpreted it as if you use 1 ability, both will be down for 60 seconds.</font> </font></font><font size="2"></font></font><div></div><p> <span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by TheSummoned on <span class=date_text>06-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:20 PM</span>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> confirmed by me at least on test.<FONT color=#ffff00> Not on same timer</FONT>. Although you are correct i dont remeber any notes retracting that update so maybe it is a bug =p <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yay thought i heard it from you gungo

[J4k]

<DIV>Fear and <Mez WERE at one point on the same timer in test. Then about a week later they changed it back.</DIV>

[Mentla]

Redundant as they're not doing it, but what would be the point of having two different abilities if they were on the same timer? <div></div>

[Gungo]

that was my complaint as was many others glad they changed it. But like the one of the previous posters said there was never a patch note retracting the change. Even still that change was not listed in the LIVE update. So we should not have anythign to fear.

[Fromingo]

my mezz says 7.5 sec duration.  Even worse than I thought.