For Moorgard

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>Moorguard, </DIV> <DIV>   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    Ok recently there has been alot of very profane, and down right nasty posts on the forums, related to bruiser nerfs, and several other nerfs.   I've noticed that you responded to a few that have been locked, and mentioned that they broke the forum rules, and you also emphasized how much you pay attention to these boards.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    Sadly we very rarely see posts from developers, so at least in my mind, it seems as though nobody cares, or nobody is listening.   This tends to create frustration, and provoke more vulgar postings.   Getting a post locked, is getting someones attention after all.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   I am happy to see the reversal of some of the seemingly insane bruiser nerfs, and that lets me know that just maybe you guys ARE indeed paying attention to us.   I just wish you guys coudl chime in a bit more, and let us know that everything is going to be ok.  For example someone coudl let us know what they are doing about the flowing thought "Avalanche" on T7 raid loot!   ha ha!   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   Thanks for reading this!</DIV> <DIV>-Crabbok</DIV><p>Message Edited by Quicksilver74 on <span class=date_text>06-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:11 PM</span>

[psubull]

Let's call a locksmith preemptively.  Or get some liquid nitrogen and a hammer.I hear you Crabbok, and agree with your statement and support your question. <div></div>

[Pouncer74]

<P>I am also very glad to see the reversal of the damage nerfs.  These were problematic to our dps as well as our agro management which damage is directly a part of.  I am glad you took our feedback into consideration.</P> <P>I do, however, understand that you cannot respond to every post on the forums.  The fact that you read and utilize them means a lot <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>

[masakre]

<DIV>heh, how about you hire 16 people to just play a specific class in game? Have them play that one character, on prod and test, reply on the class specific forum, and attend meetings that would impact/change that characters abilities. Would give the community an outside perspective from the inside, and make us feel we have a liason we dump all of our thoughts to, who can test and provide feedback, and Sony would listen to them rather than the multiple rants and cries on the boards? Let this be their job. I know some of you are saying "what a stupid idea", but all I can think is "what great customer service!" Heck, hire Gungo, he seems to nkow the class well for us bruisers hehe.</DIV>

[Zigmun]

<P>Masacre,</P> <P>Great Idea.</P> <P>I have never understood a game company that does not do this - I mean surely SoE makes enough money.</P>

[digitalblasphemy]

Crab, at least you have 2 of the main people working at SOE actually playing your class.  Whether they reply to your concerns or not, is another matter.  But the fact they actually play your class means they are well aware of the state of things.  The same cannot be said for many of the other fighter classes.  Whether you agree with some of the issues players have brought up concerning the classes they play or not, there's no denying the fact that brawlers have received the lion's share of Dev's posts compared with other fighters.  So please don't say there is a lack of Dev attention to your classes when us other fighters have not heard from a person in red since Oct '05 (Guardian boards).  Even then, the posts were worthless information.  I've seen so many insightful posts concerning game mechanics that are not specific to brawlers and other things, that oddly, seem to appear in the brawler boards.  Why is that?  Going back to what I first said, it just could be down to the fact MG and BG both play brawlers.<div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR>Going back to what I first said, it just could be down to the fact MG and BG both play brawlers.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Awesome post!  Oh the conspiracy theory!  Oh the drama.</P> <P>And then...</P> <P>You became a [Removed for Content] who doesn't realize that BG always plays scouts, and in EQ2 plays a brigand.</P> <P>They start with the same letter, but a brigand isn't a brawler!</P> <P>You lose, sorry, please drive through.  Try next week!<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class=date_text>06-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:54 PM</span>

[RustyB]

<DIV>yah gaige he's a [Removed for Content]   and you're a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]    go back to the monk boards you ignorant prat</DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RustyBallz wrote:<BR> <DIV>go back to the monk boards you ignorant prat <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hey betrayal is coming up, I may just be your idol soon.  Oh wait I am anyway.  Thanks for the love.  I know its hard being a subpar brawler with awesome people like me playing the game.</P> <P>Just think though, you can get posters of me for your walls and stuff!<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class=date_text>06-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:28 PM</span>

[RustyB]

<P>[Removed for Content] are you talking about?  you and I both know bruisers own monks  whether you choose to accept it or not is entirely up to you.</P> <P> </P> <P>oh anf BTW   you smell</P>

[Gaige]

<P>O_o</P> <P>o_O</P> <P>Oooookay.</P>

[TheSummoned]

<blockquote><hr>RustyBallz wrote:<div></div> <p>[Removed for Content] are you talking about?  you and I both know bruisers own monks  whether you choose to accept it or not is entirely up to you.</p> <p>oh anf BTW   you smell</p><hr></blockquote>Yes, we all know Gaige doesn't wash quite as often as he should. <div></div>

[-Aonein-]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> masakre wrote:<BR> <DIV>heh, how about you hire 16 people to just play a specific class in game? Have them play that one character, on prod and test, reply on the class specific forum, and attend meetings that would impact/change that characters abilities. Would give the community an outside perspective from the inside, and make us feel we have a liason we dump all of our thoughts to, who can test and provide feedback, and Sony would listen to them rather than the multiple rants and cries on the boards? Let this be their job. I know some of you are saying "what a stupid idea", but all I can think is "what great customer service!" Heck, hire Gungo, he seems to nkow the class well for us bruisers hehe.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>They did this on EQ1 ( EQlive ), im surprised they dont do it here to be honest, its a good idea and has been mentioned many times before in the past.</P> <P>They might do it one day.</P>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV>Anyways enough of gaiges [Removed for Content] fight ... great post crab mate and yes BG does play scouts but theres nothing to say he dont have a twinked bruiser as an alt .. HELL most of SOE probably have cos we are so frikkin cool :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>V happy to see some of the crazy changes undone keep up the good work and give us our insane ability to solo nameds back now pleasssse lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>btw gaige anyone who betrays to monk is the one who is a complete pratt why bother in all seriousness you think monks are that much better ? really ? whatever dude :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV>interesting to see how many monks betray to brusier tbh :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[Gobbwin]

<P>To be honest, I don't see that many monks betraying.  Monks really aren't that bad (they aren't as kew or sexy as us, but they're a'ite).  I think that temps and guards will be the most common betrayers, prob wizzys and warlocks (the grass is ALWAYS greener on the otherside...until you get there). =p  </P> <P>I can't say too much though, I'm gonna betray my templar because I really, really, really hate Qeynos.  It's full of dirty, monk-hugging hippies!  =p</P>

[Quicksilver74]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR>Going back to what I first said, it just could be down to the fact MG and BG both play brawlers.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Awesome post!  Oh the conspiracy theory!  Oh the drama.</P> <P>And then...</P> <P>You became a [Removed for Content] who doesn't realize that BG always plays scouts, and in EQ2 plays a brigand.</P> <P>They start with the same letter, but a brigand isn't a brawler!</P> <P>You lose, sorry, please drive through.  Try next week!<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Gaige on <SPAN class=date_text>06-08-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>12:54 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Wow man....  No need to start namecalling dude.  I'm sure your mature enough to know how to handle yourself, please don't get the thread I started locked.... I have enough locked threads as it is!

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR>Going back to what I first said, it just could be down to the fact MG and BG both play brawlers.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Awesome post!  Oh the conspiracy theory!  Oh the drama.</P> <P>And then...</P> <P>You became a [Removed for Content] who doesn't realize that BG always plays scouts, and in EQ2 plays a brigand.</P> <P>They start with the same letter, but a brigand isn't a brawler!</P> <P>You lose, sorry, please drive through.  Try next week!<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Gaige on <SPAN class=date_text>06-08-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>12:54 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Wow man....  No need to start namecalling dude.  I'm sure your mature enough to know how to handle yourself, please don't get the thread I started locked.... I have enough locked threads as it is!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yea crabs in the running for the most number of locks , S E elf is stalking his every move !</P> <P> </P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> Wow man....  No need to start namecalling dude.  I'm sure your mature enough to know how to handle yourself, please don't get the thread I started locked.... I have enough locked threads as it is!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I didn't call him a name - I inferred he was something - like saying and then you became an ogre.</P> <P>/shrug</P> <P>Locked threads are fun anyway!<BR></P>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>heh... don't kid yourself... you certainly weren't being civil by calling him a [Removed for Content].  This thread was intended to be constructive criticism for a Dev to read... and drawing negative attention to it isn't in the flow.   Sorry to call you out like that.  </DIV>

[digitalblasphemy]

<div></div><div></div><p>Since when does a persons post count entitle them to belittle others.  Not only do I not like you Gaige, I despise you.  Yet I still don't call you names.  I doubt you will ever be called to task for your arrogant and holier than though attitude to other people on these forums, but one can hope, maybe someday people such as yourself will find another place to post their "thoughts".</p><div></div><p>Message Edited by digitalblasphemy on <span class=date_text>06-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:19 PM</span>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR> <P>Since when does a persons post count entitle them to belittle others.  Not only do I not like you Gaige, I despise you.  Yet I still don't call you names.  I doubt you will ever be called to task for your arrogant and holier than though attitude to other people on these forums, but one can hope, maybe someday people such as yourself will find another place to post their "thoughts".<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by digitalblasphemy on <SPAN class=date_text>06-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:19 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I love you too.</P> <P>You come here chanting all these conspiracy theories about why your class is mistreated and how bruisers aren't and then you say its OMG BECAUSE TWO DEVS PLAY BRUISERS.</P> <P>Its one thing to complain but its a whole other ball game to spout off at the mouth about things like that when you aren't even right.</P> <P>I'm positive that the people who work at SOE wouldn't do something as juvenile and petty as beef up the class they play.  So to insinuate such is childish and immature on your behalf but the most embarassing part was that you weren't right about the devs anyway.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class=date_text>06-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:16 PM</span>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> digitalblasphemy wrote:<BR> <P>Since when does a persons post count entitle them to belittle others.  Not only do I not like you Gaige, I despise you.  Yet I still don't call you names.  I doubt you will ever be called to task for your arrogant and holier than though attitude to other people on these forums, but one can hope, maybe someday people such as yourself will find another place to post their "thoughts".<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by digitalblasphemy on <SPAN class=date_text>06-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:19 PM</SPAN></P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN class=time_text><FONT color=#ffff00>/Thats cos hes a sensei , spends more time posting than playing :smileywink:</FONT></SPAN> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I love you too.</P> <P>You come here chanting all these conspiracy theories about why your class is mistreated and how bruisers aren't and then you say its OMG BECAUSE TWO DEVS PLAY BRUISERS.</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>/For all you know they very well might Gaige hell I never play wizzie classes but i got a necro i love aswell</FONT></P> <P>Its one thing to complain but its a whole other ball game to spout off at the mouth about things like that when you aren't even right.</P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>/See above , you arnt BG you dont know how many toons he has on his alt list mate</FONT></P> <P>the people who work at SOE wouldn't do something as juvenile and petty as beef up the class they play.  So to insinuate such is childish and immature on your behalf but the most embarassing part was that you weren't right about the devs anyway.<BR></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>/I agree but in case you missed the sarcam of the op it was posted in jest , you know the word 'FUN' its to make you 'LAUGH' you know ? Gaige Just chill out dude i dont know if you aint getting any but relax my brother</FONT></P> <P>Message Edited by Gaige on <SPAN class=date_text>06-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:16 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ffff00>Soooo much anger Gaige you really should be a brusier all that pent up anger playing the calm monk is starting to wear you down lol woooooooooossssaaaaaa *Breath* woooooooooooooooooooooooooooossssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *Breath*</FONT><BR>

[Owa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote:<BR> Wow man....  No need to start namecalling dude.  I'm sure your mature enough to know how to handle yourself, please don't get the thread I started locked.... I have enough locked threads as it is!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I didn't call him a name - I <FONT color=#ffff00>inferred</FONT> he was something - like saying and then you became an ogre.</P> <P>/shrug</P> <P>Locked threads are fun anyway!<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT face=Garamond size=4>You inferred? No. You implied. Inferring is when you draw conclusions from what someone has written or said. Implication is when you attempt to convey information of one sort or another without explictly stating it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Garamond size=4>For example, I infer from your writings that you're not as bright as you think you are. </FONT><BR></P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <P><FONT face=Garamond size=4>For example, I infer from your writings that you're not as bright as you think you are. </FONT></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I never said how bright I thought I was.  I could think that I'm severly unintelligent in which case I probably come off brighter than I think I am but not as bright as you do.</P> <P>Thanks for giving me so much credit <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[Owa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>I never said how bright I thought I was.  I could think that I'm severly unintelligent in which case I probably come off brighter than I think I am but not as bright as you do.<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT face=Garamond><FONT size=4>No. You misunderstand again. You don't have to <EM>say</EM> how bright you think you are for me to infer it. That's what inferring means.</FONT> </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Garamond size=4>As to thinking you're 'severely unintelligent', now that's not an argument that anyone with even a cursory knowledge of your posting style is going to believe, is it?</FONT></P>

[Gravve]

<DIV><FONT color=#99ccff>LOL Gaige , I'm thinking you might want to be quiet and wait on this thread .... no matter what you say your gonna keep getting beat down ,  us bruisers are known to do that sometimes. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#99ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#99ccff>As to the idea , I couldnt agree more .  They did do this in EQ 1 and it seemed to actually help some ... </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#99ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#99ccff></FONT> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Gravve on <span class=date_text>06-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:45 AM</span>

[Jezekie]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gravve wrote:<div></div> <div><font color="#99ccff">LOL Gaige , I'm thinking you might want to be quiet and wait on this thread .... no matter what you say your gonna keep getting beat down ,  us bruisers are known to do that sometimes.</font></div><hr></blockquote>Yeah all the convincing arguments are mind blowing.  *roll*Anyway, it's kinda silly seeing people defending someone who spouts off about this or that about the developers and their bias. It's nothing new that someone goes out on that path, those of of us who've been reading the forums since day 1 has seen countless times, and some of the posters here has been around long enough to see it happen once or twice in the past so try not to act so surprised people when someone bashes them for their ignorant statements.</div>

[Gaige]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gravve wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT color=#99ccff>LOL Gaige , I'm thinking you might want to be quiet and wait on this thread ....</FONT></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>C'mon, have you ever known me to do that?<BR></DIV>