best Duo partner for a bruiser?

[Dred]

<DIV><BR>eh guys im going to be getting a new computer soon and with it a new eq2 account. i wanted to get your opinion on this. im looking for a good class to duo with my bruiser. im looking for a class that i wont have to pay a lot of attention to where as i would need to make it my main focus. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>im leaning twards a buffer / healer type but im up for sugestions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>what class would a bruiser most benefit in grouping with?<BR></DIV>

[RustyB]

well if you go healer  I would advice a Defiler

[Vorham]

MonkMonk gives +haste, you give the monk +dps, monk can heal you after you heal yourself... monk can fighter buff your avoidance, if you watch he'll be deflecting a LOT of what is thrown at you... you can both FD and get deep inside whatever zone you're killing in, even surrounded by see invis/see sneak mobs.  The two of you will have dps that will rock pretty much any mob, at least any mob that a Bruiser/Defiler could take.  You both have devastation fist for quick add killing.  If you get low HP, the monk can taunt it off you while you both kill it.  If it goes bad, or you get adds, especially in hostile territory, you can both FD.<div></div>

[Bad]

Definitely some kind of priest.I would probably suggest a fury.  They get a nice dps/haste proc buff and regens work quite well when you aren't paying much attention to the character (they last a fixed amount of time unlike reactives and wards).<div></div>

[Kram337]

If you're looking to box I don't think I'd go with a monk. Since boxing two fighters would be pretty hard. Mashing keys isn't a challenge but "skillfully mashing" two sets of keys can be. I'd say going with a higher DPS healer would be your best bet. So yea Fury would get my vote. My friend started a fury with me but really lagged behind so I'm not sure how it would be at higher lvls.  Other healers would have too little dps added to be very efficent. Bruiser gets great burst damage but after you spam all your attackts you're left standing there, waiting for attack timers to refresh. So having a little extra dps would be nice.<div></div>

[J4k]

<DIV>Defiler id say. They get nice debuffs and wards etc. I dont think another dps class would be good for duoing. I find i solo better then i would duo with another dps.</DIV>

[Seekor]

<P>In my opinion, a fury would be best.</P> <P>Why?</P> <P>Well for one, heal over times, and dps buffing. </P> <P>Second, they both wear leather, so if one is a tailor and one is a weaponsmith, thats some good money and gear there.</P> <P>Third, they just mesh, and will do dps and stay alive it will rock.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>That's my 2 cents</P>

[Heeroot]

Fury/Bruiser FTW without a doubt, But hey, I am a tad biased =p

[DwarvesR]

<DIV>My GF and I duo'd Bruiser/Fury from the time she was in her mid-teens (with me mentoring the Fury down).  She's 52 and I'm 55 now, and we burn through things you wouldn't think we could.  We took out Varsoon at level 34.  *Almost* took him at 32.  Missed trying at 33, but at 34 he was cake.  We did Nek Castle all the way through at 34, including Everling.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Very powerful combo.</DIV>

[tumpy_irontoe]

<P>I two boxed a deflier/bruiser combo from about 1 to 40 and for me that was the best fighter/healer combo I've found.  I tried fury/bruiser, but was underwhelmed by healing power of regens also I think damage shields aren't as useful for brawler types as we are avoidance tanks to begin with.</P> <P>If there is one drawback to deflier/bruiser combo, the dps isn't outstanding.  Don't get me wrong it's nowhere near guardian/templar level of lackluster dps, but it isn't outstanding either.  That's when I decided to try my hand at 3 boxing.  I looked at all the mages and was initially torn between an illusionist (primarily for haste) and a necro (could also be conj, but my two other character were evil already).  I tried both and found the necro's raw dps & manageability far outweigh what the illusionist brought to the group.</P> <P>Typical pull for me goes something like this:  Pull with bruiser, mash a few CA's & taunts to establish agro.  Switch to shaman click on debuff macro button which will cast his two most powerful debuffs and send in wolfie pet.  Next, switch attention to necro.  Send in pet (warlock pet is best for mowing through groups, but if I'm really worried about agro, I'll use scout) and click on dot macro button which will cast his two most powerful dots.  Then it's just starting the cycle over again.  Switch back to bruiser and mash a few more CA's, maybe self heal if needed.  Move on to defiler.  Throw in a ward if needed, but probably don't since mobs are debuffed.  I usually add dots for more dps, so I'll click on his dot macro button for him to cast his 2 most poweful dots.  Finally, back to necro if mob is still alive for some nukes in the form of lifetaps and maybe aoe's.</P> <P>This 3 man combo has really worked out well for me but it is not without it's problems.  You will die a lot initially trying to find your rhythm.  Another drawback is the unwanted attention of the so called "concerned netizens" whose job it is to police the internet and accuse you of being a chinese farmer controlling bots because you have two characters on /follow.  I tend to ignore these but if they continue to harass me, then I'll simply tell them to report me, post on the forums, take pictures, etc all they want because I'm not doing anything illegal.  I'm not using any 3rd party software, and am running all 3 accounts on the one machine using a few simple, ingame macros to control the other characters.  Final drawback is because I'm using one machine, you'll need a pretty hefty rig.  I've got a 24 inch monitor which is nice for squeezing in all 3 screens on the one monitor, plus 4 gigs of ram, blah, blah, insert size of digitalwang here...</P> <P>Anyway hope this helps in you ultimately choosing what character you want to duo with.  I've posted a link to a screenshot that I took of my trio running around runnyeye the othernight just to confirm that you can run 3 separate accounts on the one machine.  Hope the pic shows up, because I'm a forum noob.</P> <P>cheers</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P><A href="http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setup7be.jpg" target=_blank>http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setup7be.jpg</A> <P>Message Edited by tumpy_irontoe on <SPAN class=date_text>05-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:07 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by tumpy_irontoe on <span class=date_text>05-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:09 PM</span>

[Madmoon]

<P>This isn't a bad idea.  If you are into crafting, it certainly is worth a thought.  Although, I would go into alchemy (potions and Bruiser CAs, plus you can refine the glimmering/sparklings for the tailor) over weapons, as so much more of our damage comes from our combat arts and not our weapons.</P> <P>That being said, I still prefer a shaman.  Those wards, coupled with our decent avoidance makes for a healthy, happy bruiser!<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Seekor33 wrote:<BR> <P>In my opinion, a fury would be best.</P> <P>Why?</P> <P>Well for one, heal over times, and dps buffing. </P> <P>Second, they both wear leather, so if one is a tailor and one is a weaponsmith, thats some good money and gear there.</P> <P>Third, they just mesh, and will do dps and stay alive it will rock.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>That's my 2 cents</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>

[psubull]

I duo with whatever class is available.  90% of the time, its a brigand or a necro, but really you can duo with anything if you use ventrilo instead of typing.<div></div>

[Dred]

<DIV>i was just going through the classes and i was thinking troub? pow regen, health regen and an assortment of buffs. i dont know about the ease of playing a troub as a duo?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>any thoughts?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV>Necro/Brusier</DIV>

[N3xus0n3]

<P>/starttencents</P> <P> </P> <P>I've duoed with three classes extensively, Defiler, Troubador and Necro. Troubs buff are great but the lack of DPS means that they're pretty much there to help you stand up and escape from nasty situations (I pretty much double the DPS of my Troub partner), howver troub does have good Utility with the mezz, but I think they are nerfing that in LU24. As for the defiler, well thats pretty much what you'd expect. They ward you and keep you up. You can get them up if they die in hostile areas. Necro is probably my favourite duo class, they can heal, FD and rez. I've gone bloody far duoing with my necro friend and there was very little we couldnt handle.</P> <P> </P> <P>/endtencents</P>

[Firam]

<P>I am in the same situation as the OP.  I just spent a boatload of $$ on a new system because my current one is giving mediocre (but usable) performance.  Also, I'm on a drastically different time zone from the rest of my guild for awhile (I'm stationed in Japan w/ the Navy) and I can't really raid.  So basically I'm looking at keeping my current system the way it is and 2 boxing for fun.</P> <P>I haven't started the 2nd account yet but I've pretty much decided on a priest as my alt.. I just don't have the energy to 2box characters that both require a lot of attention.  However I am still wide open as to which priest class to go with.  At this point defiler, inquisitor, and fury seem to be the most attractive ones of each type.  I'd be interested in the opinions of those who have two boxed these combos with their brawler as to what worked well and what they didn't like about each one.  </P> <P>Defiler definitely is attractive due to the debuffs and relative ease of character control (plus I usually solo'd on ^^^ so this would extend my ability there).  Fury is also nice for their buffs and regen healing and nuke DPS; I've duo'd a lot with furies and it always works out really well, however that's still 2 people in full control of their main character.  For inquisitor, I have a guildmate and longtime friend who plays a guardian and bots an inqi and I sometimes trio with him.  The class is nice as far as the overall selection of buffs and debuffs, but I don't know if the reactive healing would be as effective as I want.  I could certainly extend myself up to higher ^^^'s to force more hits on my bruiser (I'm L70 btw) and it would work fine on nameds, as well as being less squishy relative to the other priests.  Dunno, hard decision.</P>

[Firam]

also, another question, can I go into my station account somewhere and register a 2nd account electronically?  i dont see any need to buy more DVD copies of all the software when I already have them.  i know you can do this with expansions, but can I a) do this from my main station account and b) do this with the base game product key too?

[Nylacra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> tumpy_irontoe wrote:<BR> <P>I two boxed a deflier/bruiser combo from about 1 to 40 and for me that was the best fighter/healer combo I've found.  I tried fury/bruiser, but was underwhelmed by healing power of regens also I think damage shields aren't as useful for brawler types as we are avoidance tanks to begin with.</P> <P>If there is one drawback to deflier/bruiser combo, the dps isn't outstanding.  Don't get me wrong it's nowhere near guardian/templar level of lackluster dps, but it isn't outstanding either.  That's when I decided to try my hand at 3 boxing.  I looked at all the mages and was initially torn between an illusionist (primarily for haste) and a necro (could also be conj, but my two other character were evil already).  I tried both and found the necro's raw dps & manageability far outweigh what the illusionist brought to the group.</P> <P>Typical pull for me goes something like this:  Pull with bruiser, mash a few CA's & taunts to establish agro.  Switch to shaman click on debuff macro button which will cast his two most powerful debuffs and send in wolfie pet.  Next, switch attention to necro.  Send in pet (warlock pet is best for mowing through groups, but if I'm really worried about agro, I'll use scout) and click on dot macro button which will cast his two most powerful dots.  Then it's just starting the cycle over again.  Switch back to bruiser and mash a few more CA's, maybe self heal if needed.  Move on to defiler.  Throw in a ward if needed, but probably don't since mobs are debuffed.  I usually add dots for more dps, so I'll click on his dot macro button for him to cast his 2 most poweful dots.  Finally, back to necro if mob is still alive for some nukes in the form of lifetaps and maybe aoe's.</P> <P>This 3 man combo has really worked out well for me but it is not without it's problems.  You will die a lot initially trying to find your rhythm.  Another drawback is the unwanted attention of the so called "concerned netizens" whose job it is to police the internet and accuse you of being a chinese farmer controlling bots because you have two characters on /follow.  I tend to ignore these but if they continue to harass me, then I'll simply tell them to report me, post on the forums, take pictures, etc all they want because I'm not doing anything illegal.  I'm not using any 3rd party software, and am running all 3 accounts on the one machine using a few simple, ingame macros to control the other characters.  Final drawback is because I'm using one machine, you'll need a pretty hefty rig.  I've got a 24 inch monitor which is nice for squeezing in all 3 screens on the one monitor, plus 4 gigs of ram, blah, blah, insert size of digitalwang here...</P> <P>Anyway hope this helps in you ultimately choosing what character you want to duo with.  I've posted a link to a screenshot that I took of my trio running around runnyeye the othernight just to confirm that you can run 3 separate accounts on the one machine.  Hope the pic shows up, because I'm a forum noob.</P> <P>cheers</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P><A href="http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setup7be.jpg" target=_blank>http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setup7be.jpg</A> <P>Message Edited by tumpy_irontoe on <SPAN class=date_text>05-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:07 PM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by tumpy_irontoe on <SPAN class=date_text>05-29-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:09 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Fantastic setup, I'll have to try that, currently using two equally sized windows they just over lap</P> <P> </P>

[Nanlibo]

<DIV>I Have 2 RL friends that I duo or trio with reguarly. A Monk and a Warden. As stated above, The monk brings you much haste and you give them dps in return, and in my history a Warden is a much appreciated healer to the brawler class. As is fury or the two shamans. I prefer Mystics in the group due to their permant warding of a certain amount of melee damage.</DIV>

[Laoch69]

<DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>My wife and I have tried virtually every combination of tank/healer.  Don't know why fury is getting a lot of mentions here, but everyone has their own opinion.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>To us, Defiler has been the "best" healer to have with a Bruiser, hands down.  Great debuffs, great ward, nice utility (sow, eb, etc). </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>We are now cruising along in our 40's and having a blast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Laoch69 on <span class=date_text>06-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:46 PM</span>

[Benaire]

My fury Duos alot with a bruiser and all i can say is that we burn through mobs we killed the named cyclop in poets duoing at lvl 62. One of the things is that I have a buff that lets you proc a +44% dps and haste and im sure every fighter would like that. As for heals we have 3 direct heals, 1 single hot, 1 group hot, 1 delay group heal, 1 group heal and 1 hot and buff on death of a mob. This is more then enough to chain and keep someone alive.

[andurilh]

<P>Wife and I have a fury/bruiser duo.  That has been a ton of fun.  I like the defiler but since the bruiser and the defiler are both my characters it's kind of hard to get them together.  And seeing as she loves her fury it's the best of both worlds for us. </P> <P>We started with a Templar/Guardian pair originally.  Talk about fights that never seemed to end.</P> <P>And it's fun to sometimes pull the guard and bruiser out and be the tank and ma for a group.  Same goes for playing the two healers.</P> <P> </P> <P>Skimbleshanks</P><p>Message Edited by andurilh on <span class=date_text>06-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:33 AM</span>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<P>The reason Furies get so much mention is because they are some of the biggest DPS in healer form (especially considering AA's). Combined with a high damage fighter, they can take down stuff VERY quickly compared to other duos.</P> <P>Faster deaths means survival just as much as debuffs, but it can also mean faster loots and faster xp.</P> <P>Fury heals are some of the quickest too, meaning they can keep a Bruiser alive nearly as good as wards + debuffs.</P> <P> </P> <P>However, Defilers are some of the best for survival against he absolute toughest encounters... so it really depends on how much you are pushing your limits.</P>

[Mentla]

Fury.  Duoed with one a lot on here and grouped with monks a fair bit on PvP (can't group with Bruisas there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />).  Reasons have already been stated - you get all your burst dps out of the way, then leave the Bruisa on auto attack while they recharge and nuke the pants off the mob with the fury. Fact. End of. <div></div>

[chadawok]

<DIV>defiler <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>me and a defiler (both 2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Duo'd everything including the instance in FG, no probs, wards and debuffs just work a treat</DIV>

[Mentla]

Too lazy to scroll up but I think op wants to 2 box.  Therefore less easy to drop debuffs etc.  With Fury he just drops off all the burst Bruisa dps then drops and HoT or two with Fury and nukes while the Bruisa CA's recharge, all the while leaving the bruisa on auto attack. Out of my field here as not played or grouped with them much, but don't Dirge's get some nice stuff, maybe even a heal? <div></div>

[aVoid]

Bruiser / Fury for the win ! Me and my wife have a 70 bruiser 70 fury combo.. we like it so much we each made one of the oposites and are starting again in reverse roles.  Now im playing the fury and she's the bruiser <span>:smileyhappy:</span> currently sitting at lvl 32 each .. great fun <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>