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Madmoon
05-08-2006, 01:15 AM
<DIV>How do you use the following lines?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fists - Thundering/Jolting/Shocking/Storming - I usually hit it before an AE.. well, my ONLY AE.  Figuring it will hit everyone.  How do you use it?  It's damage seems paltry, unless everyone in the AE gets hit.  Do you ever use it against a single monster?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Instill Doubt/Instill Panic - I have YET to use this.  How do you use it?  Emergency escape (by then I am usually paniced myself, and would not remember to hit it?)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV> <DIV>Redmouser</DIV>

Zigmun
05-08-2006, 02:39 AM
<P>Yes Thundering Fists I usually charge up before pulling if solo.</P> <P>If grouped I ae taunt, then ae damage, and fists will hit surrounding mobs - only 5 times though.</P> <P>Instill Doubt I cast and then run around back of the mob and eye gouge it - or if I have 2-3 mobs I will mezz one - fear it when it wears off - and then by that time mezz it again.</P> <P> </P>

ShinmaRyche
05-08-2006, 05:35 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Madmoon wrote:<BR> <DIV>How do you use the following lines?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fists - Thundering/Jolting/Shocking/Storming - I usually hit it before an AE.. well, my ONLY AE.  Figuring it will hit everyone.  How do you use it?  It's damage seems paltry, unless everyone in the AE gets hit.  Do you ever use it against a single monster?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Instill Doubt/Instill Panic - I have YET to use this.  How do you use it?  Emergency escape (by then I am usually paniced myself, and would not remember to hit it?)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV> <DIV>Redmouser</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Fists. I usually use it before an aoe, or before I use a ca combo.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>As for Mez, it lets us kill mobs that would be more difficult, because you can mez during the fight to allow yourself a reset, time to self heal, and time to let your CAs recharge for the next barrage. Example, vs 1 ^^^ heroic mob, this sequence would be the usual.. (thundering fists on inc from mit debuff doll, and mantis stam debuff just before mob get to me) Eye gouge > Knockdown > back stab > crushing fury > knockdown > stomp > knockdown > damage ca > Mez > self heal > repeat at thundering fists, but wait until mez is just about up before restarting.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00><STRONG><EM>Be SURE to cancel your dot before mezzing. </EM></STRONG>If this is something you arent used to doing, it might be best you not use your dot until you have practice with it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>I use the other fast refreshing cas and the aoe attack during the above combo, wherever I can fit them in. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Now there may be better sequences than this, but this is what ive learned to be effective for me, in my experience. It worked pretty well for me, all the way up to 70.. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Also, it should be noted that I have all M1, M2, AD3 skills. ymmv.</FONT><BR></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by ShinmaRyche on <span class=date_text>05-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:44 PM</span>

Madmoon
05-08-2006, 07:09 PM
<P>Thanks for the mez tips, I have not used that in quite that way, but I was wondering about our Instill Fear/Doubt line - our <STRONG>fear</STRONG> CA, not the mez, which I only wish lasted a bit longer =).  How do you use that one, the fear?</P> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShinmaRyche wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>As for Mez, it lets us kill mobs that would be more difficult, because you can mez during the fight to allow yourself a reset, time to self heal, and time to let your CAs recharge for the next barrage. Example, vs 1 ^^^ heroic mob, this sequence would be the usual.. (thundering fists on inc from mit debuff doll, and mantis stam debuff just before mob get to me) Eye gouge > Knockdown > back stab > crushing fury > knockdown > stomp > knockdown > damage ca > Mez > self heal > repeat at thundering fists, but wait until mez is just about up before restarting.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00><STRONG><EM>Be SURE to cancel your dot before mezzing. </EM></STRONG>If this is something you arent used to doing, it might be best you not use your dot until you have practice with it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>I use the other fast refreshing cas and the aoe attack during the above combo, wherever I can fit them in. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Now there may be better sequences than this, but this is what ive learned to be effective for me, in my experience. It worked pretty well for me, all the way up to 70.. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Also, it should be noted that I have all M1, M2, AD3 skills. ymmv.</FONT><BR></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by ShinmaRyche on <SPAN class=date_text>05-07-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:44 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P>

ShinmaRyche
05-08-2006, 10:59 PM
<P><FONT color=#ffff00>Wow, my bad. I blended this with another thread i was reading.. =</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>I use the Fear as a type of crowd control most of the time. Like for any unexpected adds. It usually gives me enough time to finish off the mob im working on. Additionally, you can use it for some extra time on a solo mob. Example, if your mez gets broken for some odd reason, or you just need some more time.. </FONT></P>

Owa
05-09-2006, 12:12 AM
<P><FONT size=3>For me I've always used the Shocking Fists line prior to Crushing Fury - maybe not the most effective way to use it but I love how it does mad burst damage that way - especially in PvP. Unless I'm running into multiple mobs/Qeynosians, in which case I use it just before Savage Blows - for exactly the same reason.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3>IMHO Fear is better in PvP than PvE, as every second counts and the smallest advantage can put your opponent off. Also in PvP it can be used to send your opponent off the edge of a cliff etc.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3>In PvE I I use it from time to time in multi-mob encounters but rarely in heroic ^^^ - unless as an emergency measure.</FONT></P>

TheSummoned
05-09-2006, 02:21 AM
Anyone else miss the broken procs? Prismatic + fists + CoB + Fae Pire + Sawage Blows + a bunch of mobs... Ahh the carnage! Anyway, don't let me set you off. Mezz is a lot more powerful then many think. It alows us to solo just about any mob that isn't stun immune, with proper mana regen of course. <div></div>