Queens Carapace vs Ghostly Wraps of Torment

[Kalem]

<DIV>I'm about to turn 66 (tonight hopefully), and will be able to wear the queens carapace.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The proc on the ghostly wrapps has a 10% chance to go off.  Dispite the description it goes off randomely regardless of how much health I have.  It heals me for about 400+.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The queens carapace has lower stats, but higher mitigation.  Which would be best to wear?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=123918" target=_blank>Ghostly Wraps</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=123103" target=_blank>Queens Carapace</A></DIV>

[deadsidedemon]

<P>The Queens Carapace is pink.  That's all you need to know.</P> <P> </P> <P>Unless, you know, you're into that kind of stuff.</P> <P> </P>

[Kalem]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> deadsidedemon wrote:<BR> <P>The Queens Carapace is pink.  That's all you need to know.</P> <P> </P> <P>Unless, you know, you're into that kind of stuff.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>LOL, had no idea it was pink...eeeeek.</P> <P>Still would like to know though if the 50 extra mitigation makes a big differance.  The 10% chance to heal upwards of high 400's is nice, but isn't going to save my bacon when i getting hit for 2500+...would rather avoid the damage all together.<BR></P>

[Teaen Arcarius]

According to the description on Ghostly Wraps of Torment, the heal only has a 10% chance to go off if a death blow is struck.  In other words, if you were going to die, you have a 10% chance of getting healed.   If that is true, then the Queens Carapace is the superior chest piece in my opinion.<p>Message Edited by Teaen Arcarius on <span class=date_text>04-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:06 PM</span>

[galadizz]

i was like the 3rd on my server with ghostly wraps... was all cool and all... but the proc is more like 0.0010%sooo rare. eveen when soloingnow i only use it when im not tanking. for the 4crushing skill that it.<div></div>

[deadsidedemon]

<P>I really should ammend my post to say that the baby blue look of the Gi is nearly as bad as a pink tunic.</P> <P>Get the Queens Carapace, add in some Manacles of Dark Sky, maybe the Twisted Wildwood pants from Gates, and you've got yourself quite the fashion statement of what a Bruiser should *NOT* look like :smileytongue:</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[J4k]

somewhat curious as to what will be hitting you for 2500+ dmg at that lvl. I dont personally have the gi but if its like the mage robe for mana its when you kill a mob not when a mob kills you. But again i dont have it so dont have the description infront of me.

[TheSummoned]

<blockquote><hr>deadsidedemon wrote:<div></div> <p>I really should ammend my post to say that the baby blue look of the Gi is nearly as bad as a pink tunic.</p> <p>Get the Queens Carapace, add in some Manacles of Dark Sky, maybe the Twisted Wildwood pants from Gates, and you've got yourself quite the fashion statement of what a Bruiser should *NOT* look like :smileytongue:</p> <hr></blockquote><span>:smileyindifferent: I actually looked like that at some point... </span><div></div>

[QQ-Fatman]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kalem wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm about to turn 66 (tonight hopefully), and will be able to wear the queens carapace.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The proc on the ghostly wrapps has a 10% chance to go off.  Dispite the description it goes off randomely regardless of how much health I have.  It heals me for about 400+.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The queens carapace has lower stats, but higher mitigation.  Which would be best to wear?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=123918" target=_blank>Ghostly Wraps</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=123103" target=_blank>Queens Carapace</A></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I use the carapace becuase of its high ac and spell resistances (ghostly wraps got no resistance at all.) But it's really ugly <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Kalem]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> J4kik wrote:<BR> somewhat curious as to what will be hitting you for 2500+ dmg at that lvl. I dont personally have the gi but if its like the mage robe for mana its when you kill a mob not when a mob kills you. But again i dont have it so dont have the description infront of me.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The queen in the devourer instance comes to mind.  She hits for wicked crushing damage, granted not every hit lands that hard.  Same is true for the named in the pit near the entrance to the devourer instance, and the boss of the Nest instance.  KoS mobs just hit really hard.  Thank goodness for stone deaf.</P> <P>The drakes can fry you for 1500 to 3500 in one shot...but that's either fire or magic damage.  Thank goodness for stone deaf <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>By the way I do have the mantacles of dark sky...guess I'm gonna look mighty bad <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[tupercent]

<P>I personally wear the claymore bp the soaked guard of X for a pure looks reason.  The stats work out to about a push and i don't have a purple chest and green pants looking like some peter pan freak.  At 66 I would advice working on the claymore line may as well level up while doing it.</P> <P> </P> <P>Proh 70 Bruiser</P> <P>The Bazaar Server</P>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<P>The ghostly wraps of torment proc when YOU do a deathblow... which means when YOU kill something, not when you are going to be killed.</P> <P>I've had it proc once in a while... when I kill something. It's % is correct, you guys are just looking at the wrong time for when it's supposed to go off.</P> <P> </P> <P>I got the Ghostly Wraps, because I could get em fairly cheap and they are pretty good stats for offensive mode. I will, however, get a queen's carapace for when I want to tank, simply because it's better stats for tanking. And it's dirt cheap, i see them going for 40 gold.</P> <P>T7 seems to be all about gear sets, moreso than ever before. I have full sets of resist jewelry for that reason. I have a staff i use for tanking (AoE ability from Wis line helps keep aggro), and some dual wielding weapons i use for DPS.</P> <P> </P> <P>The look, I'm not such a fan of... the queen's carapace is bordering psychadelic. The ghostly wraps are powder blue, and have the wrestler outfit look (not the barechested look that would have saved it).</P> <P>I changed my scales (iksar) to basilisk with an ash grey/white belly look. I'm told with my ghostly wraps I look like some kind of ice lizard. Oh well... at least I'm not getting "blue suede gi's" jokes.</P>

[Anjin]

<P>I personally use the claymore bp, but between the carapace and the gi, it's the carapace ftw.  The mitigation difference between the 2 is massive and the procs on the gi is basically cosmetic.  I swap between the claymore bp and the carapace if the resists on the carapace are required, the gi is just another gi in the collection!</P> <P>Anjin</P>

[Kalem]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raidi Sovin'faile wrote:<BR> <P>The ghostly wraps of torment proc when YOU do a deathblow... which means when YOU kill something, not when you are going to be killed.</P> <P>I've had it proc once in a while... when I kill something. It's % is correct, you guys are just looking at the wrong time for when it's supposed to go off.</P> <P> </P> <P>I got the Ghostly Wraps, because I could get em fairly cheap and they are pretty good stats for offensive mode. I will, however, get a queen's carapace for when I want to tank, simply because it's better stats for tanking. And it's dirt cheap, i see them going for 40 gold.</P> <P>T7 seems to be all about gear sets, moreso than ever before. I have full sets of resist jewelry for that reason. I have a staff i use for tanking (AoE ability from Wis line helps keep aggro), and some dual wielding weapons i use for DPS.</P> <P> </P> <P>The look, I'm not such a fan of... the queen's carapace is bordering psychadelic. The ghostly wraps are powder blue, and have the wrestler outfit look (not the barechested look that would have saved it).</P> <P>I changed my scales (iksar) to basilisk with an ash grey/white belly look. I'm told with my ghostly wraps I look like some kind of ice lizard. Oh well... at least I'm not getting "blue suede gi's" jokes.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Thanks for the feedback all, I do appreciate it.  I did end up going with the carapace.  I'm not happy with the look, but then again the GI looked pretty bad too, especially on a barb <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Raidi, thanks for pointing out how the proc works.  I did indeed notice last night that it was procing when I would deal the death blow.<BR></P>

[Kasandria]

<P>I have both, I wear the ghostly wraps when I'm DPSing and the Queens when MTing or want to look good (female Barb).  The Ghostly give me about nine to Attack rating and 5 to STR over the Queens.  Queens is .9 % more Mit while Ghostly are 0.3% more Avoidance. </P> <P> </P> <P>Kasa<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kalem wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raidi Sovin'faile wrote:<BR> <P>The ghostly wraps of torment proc when YOU do a deathblow... which means when YOU kill something, not when you are going to be killed.</P> <P>I've had it proc once in a while... when I kill something. It's % is correct, you guys are just looking at the wrong time for when it's supposed to go off.</P> <P> </P> <P>I got the Ghostly Wraps, because I could get em fairly cheap and they are pretty good stats for offensive mode. I will, however, get a queen's carapace for when I want to tank, simply because it's better stats for tanking. And it's dirt cheap, i see them going for 40 gold.</P> <P>T7 seems to be all about gear sets, moreso than ever before. I have full sets of resist jewelry for that reason. I have a staff i use for tanking (AoE ability from Wis line helps keep aggro), and some dual wielding weapons i use for DPS.</P> <P> </P> <P>The look, I'm not such a fan of... the queen's carapace is bordering psychadelic. The ghostly wraps are powder blue, and have the wrestler outfit look (not the barechested look that would have saved it).</P> <P>I changed my scales (iksar) to basilisk with an ash grey/white belly look. I'm told with my ghostly wraps I look like some kind of ice lizard. Oh well... at least I'm not getting "blue suede gi's" jokes.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Thanks for the feedback all, I do appreciate it.  I did end up going with the carapace.  I'm not happy with the look, but then again the GI looked pretty bad too, especially on a barb <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Raidi, thanks for pointing out how the proc works.  I did indeed notice last night that it was procing when I would deal the death blow.<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[BattleMonk]

<div><blockquote><hr>deadsidedemon wrote:<div></div> <p>I really should ammend my post to say that the baby blue look of the Gi is nearly as bad as a pink tunic.</p> <p>Get the Queens Carapace, add in some Manacles of Dark Sky, maybe the Twisted Wildwood pants from Gates, and you've got yourself quite the fashion statement of what a Bruiser should *NOT* look like :smileytongue:</p> <hr></blockquote>    That said though, I can remember back when KoS first came out and we were all running around in the Hool`ah hat, Queen Carapace, Manacles, Restrainer gloves, and Zavhiz's Leggings, looking horrible. But, it was the best that could be gotten easily at the time.      And to the OP, go with the Carapace. Yes, it looks, weird, but its worth the look for now until you can get either the claymore line tunic from Sanctum, or score lucky on a Premonition Mantle coming out of one of the reward chests at the end of Halls of Fate.</div>

[wayfaerer]

I have the queen's carapace and I love the look! I have the pink boots from Gates to go with it!I also have manacles of dark sky and zhardiz' leggings. I don't like the look of the legs, I've been doing HoF trying to get Endbringer leggings but so far no luck.<div></div>

[J4k]

how did this old thread come back to live? 4months later!

[TygerMeow]

Ok, I'm gonna wreck this thread again.Can anyone tell me where I can get the Manacles of Dark Sky mentioned in this thread? They are 4p on my broker and Google has precious little info on them.

[masoninc61]

Dude, who doesnt want a tie die t shirt.<div></div>

[Owa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Herbster wrote:<BR> <P>I personally use the claymore bp, but between the carapace and the gi, it's the carapace ftw.  The mitigation difference between the 2 is massive and the procs on the gi is basically cosmetic.  I swap between the claymore bp and the carapace if the resists on the carapace are required, the gi is just another gi in the collection!</P> <P>Anjin</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT face=Garamond size=4>Agree completely.</FONT>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

Wow.. old thread. Might be a good idea to just make a new one?Anyways.. Manacles are from the Skywatcher named at the far end of the Temple island in Tenebrous. He is standing on this little ledge, and you have to clear the droag around him to activate him.<div></div>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>Neither. If we're talking legendary...Premonition mantle, ftw.</DIV>

[Budgiette]

ohhh..while this thread is alive atm......has anyone noticed that when you equip the ghostly wraps of torment it actually drains your health?  Tried it on to see the look and went off to do something..came back and IM sitting on 2% health.....lucky I checked ). <div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> deadsidedemon wrote:<BR> <P>I really should ammend my post to say that the baby blue look of the Gi is nearly as bad as a pink tunic.</P> <P>Get the Queens Carapace, add in some Manacles of Dark Sky, maybe the Twisted Wildwood pants from Gates, and you've got yourself quite the fashion statement of what a Bruiser should *NOT* look like :smileytongue:</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN>:smileyindifferent:<BR><BR>I actually looked like that at some point...<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i practically still do [Removed for Content] !

[Schwertheiliger]

If you prefer DD style, use the Gi, if you have to tank, the Carapace is the first choice.

[Cocytus]

Even if I didn't have better...I would refuse to wear the Queen's Carapace. I absolutely refuse to wear something that looks THAT horrible. There's no excuse for something that horrendous looking, SOE. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ganjookie]

I just put white out on my screen, seems to help.  LPus the smell makes me feel like I AM IN NORRATH<div></div>

[IntricateOne]

This is why we have the rusty skin 'fun spell' -- to disguise and hide the absolutely gawdawful T7 armor that's out there.Xhaos K'ai70 BruiserThe Arcane OrderButcherblock

[wesblueeyes]

<P>Im not gonna lie I wear the ghostly wraps purely for looks, but they are gorgeous! The carapace I keep around and toss on as garbage gear when say I am the bait on a DT run or need that extra cold resist for some named.</P> <P>Good thing about the wraps is the extra +4 defense and uhh uhh they look good?</P>

[IntricateOne]

You're such a girl.If I wanted to be gorgeous, I'd play my swashbuckler!

[Owa]

<FONT face=Garamond size=4>It's probably worth hanging on to the Carapace even when you get relic etc 'cause the cold resists are decent enough. Plus you get to look like a poof.</FONT>

[TheSummoned]

Owain... Your new sig? It's brilliant! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Owa]

<FONT face=Garamond size=4>Yeah...some of my victims on Venekor decided I needed something to reflect my true PvP prowess.</FONT>