Best raid group makeup for a Bruiser

[MakhailSamma]

<DIV> Never really seen anything like this posted and was wondering what some of you do and what your group make up looks like to maximize your effectiveness in a raid. Of course all guilds vary. so everyone might not have the same makeup, but its good knowledge to share imho.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> My favorite makeup for raids is a Monk (Haste Buff for me and my DPS buff for him), Inquisitor (love the haste buff they can do and also good healer to have on AOE fights), Zerker (awesome DMG added in procs and good strength buff that will generally cap me out), Pally (Takes my hate so I can go all out when need be.. plus its fun watching my agro get him killed mwuahahaha), Illusionist (mana regen, haste, and added procs FTW!!).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Anyways, with this group makeup I seem to be able to do more damage safer then with any other group makeup. Anyone do anything different or have any comments on how to change up this group to maximize it even better?</DIV>

[1Ralte]

<DIV>Assasin - there poison proc is insane dmg</DIV> <DIV>Illusionist / Coercer - whichever you can get your hands on</DIV> <DIV>Wizard - Nice str / in buff and the proc is hot</DIV> <DIV>Guardian - hp and Assauge works great for dehate</DIV> <DIV>Priest obviously <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Deeds]

<P>That looks good Krommus, except I would personally replace the Pally with a Troubador or a Fury.</P> <P>Troubador: Hate reduction, even more haste/dps buffs and other buffs</P> <P>Fury (if good MT group, with great agro enhancers on MT):  Agitate, group melee proc, more healing and group cures</P> <P> </P> <P>Tzing Tao</P> <P>Enlightened Dark, Unrest</P>

[PhozFa]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>1Ralter1 wrote:<div>Assasin - there poison proc is insane dmg</div> <div>Illusionist / Coercer - whichever you can get your hands on</div> <div>Wizard - Nice str / in buff and the proc is hot</div> <div>Guardian - hp and Assauge works great for dehate </div> <div>Priest obviously <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>I like kromm's setup but to modify your set up. I have a problem with the guard. First if he was gonna deagro someone in that group it'd be the wizzy prolly. Second if you were gonna use a fighter for deagro i'd use a pally. With amends they have a group STR/WIS buff. STR for dps and WIS for resists. plus i think they have a group proc buff like the SKs but not 100% sure on that last part Deedbit : troub for hate reduction doesn't work. Thier group debuff is non-fighters i belive<div></div><p>Message Edited by PhozFate on <span class=date_text>04-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:58 AM</span>

[MakhailSamma]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deedbit wrote:<BR> <P>That looks good Krommus, except I would personally replace the Pally with a Troubador or a Fury.</P> <P>Troubador: Hate reduction, even more haste/dps buffs and other buffs</P> <P>Fury (if good MT group, with great agro enhancers on MT):  Agitate, group melee proc, more healing and group cures</P> <P> </P> <P>Tzing Tao</P> <P>Enlightened Dark, Unrest</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Trouby does not work for hate reduction on Fighters I'm pretty sure.</P> <P>Don't really worry about Fury healing or cures. Should not be getting damaged much anyways that an Inq cannot handle and prefer the inquisitor haste to a fury proc.<BR></P>

[Deeds]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MakhailSammael wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deedbit wrote:<BR> <P>That looks good Krommus, except I would personally replace the Pally with a Troubador or a Fury.</P> <P>Troubador: Hate reduction, even more haste/dps buffs and other buffs</P> <P>Fury (if good MT group, with great agro enhancers on MT):  Agitate, group melee proc, more healing and group cures</P> <P> </P> <P>Tzing Tao</P> <P>Enlightened Dark, Unrest</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Trouby does not work for hate reduction on Fighters I'm pretty sure.</P> <P>Don't really worry about Fury healing or cures. Should not be getting damaged much anyways that an Inq cannot handle and prefer the inquisitor haste to a fury proc.<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>What I am saying is put the Fury in for the Pally if your MT can handle the agro, not replace the Inq with the Fury.</P> <P>Wasnt sure about the Troubador hate ruduction, but again if you have a solid MT group with good agro enhancers, Id rather have the bard.</P> <P>On the other hand, it is funny to watch the Pally bite the dust if they put Amends on you, so ya keep the Pally :smileyhappy:</P> <P> </P> <P>Tzing Tao</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

[Pins]

Hrm, best group for a bruiser.So you start with 30% DPS off your highest tier Group DPS buff, so toss in an Inquistor to get another 30%, then an Illusionist to get another 65% haste to go along with that DT wrist piece with 23% haste. So you're at 60% DPS, and 88% Haste. An Assassin for Apply Poison, and a Dirge for another 30% DPS + CoB + Tomb's Stillness and you've got yourself a nice group, and 90% DPS, 88% Haste. Plus 1 spot left for whatever class you want to fill that spot. Best to toss in another melee-class, maybe even a Monk and you'll be at that 100% Haste, as will the Assassin, and everybody will be near capping DPS as well.

[TheSummoned]

I like pinsky's group a lot. I'm usually in a simular one, although we don't have a spare dirge for our group <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[vladsamier1]

<DIV>i would say...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zerker- for str buff and their beserk buff</DIV> <DIV>Coercer/Illusionist - haste or dps depending on which you get</DIV> <DIV>Dirge- more melee buffs and dps increase and CoB <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>Monk- haste buff</DIV> <DIV>and either an inquis/fury/shaman to fill last spot</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>