Why go Bruiser > Monk? Help me please....

[LordTa]

I am wanting to go bruiser but everything I read here on these forums and the monk forums point towards monks being better solo, group, and raidwise (with AP now).I like the look of bruiser better however. Why do you all recommend going bruiser (if you do at this point)?  Convince me to stay the course.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Also, the fluff abilities (wood skin and iron skin)...what do they look like?Thanks!<div></div>

[Owa]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>LordTank wrote:I am wanting to go bruiser but everything I read here on these forums and the monk forums point towards monks being better solo, group, and raidwise (with AP now).I like the look of bruiser better however. Why do you all recommend going bruiser (if you do at this point)?  Convince me to stay the course.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Also, the fluff abilities (wood skin and iron skin)...what do they look like?Thanks!<div></div><hr></blockquote><p><font size="4">Monks are supposedly the more defensive Brawler type and Bruisers are supposedly the more DPS-based class. I say 'supposedly' because the consensus at the moment seems to be that post-LU#20 Monks can outdamage Bruisers, in addition to retaining their superior defensive qualities. </font></p><p><font size="4">The argument is that while most Bruiser DPS comes from Combat Arts - and these arts had their procs reduced or removed - much of Monk DPS comes from their ability to self-haste their autoattack - which was not affected by the proc nerf. </font></p><p><font size="4">Personally I can't say how severe this difference is, or even if it exists, because I play on a PvP server - but I do feel that if Monks <em>are </em>outdamaging us this will be addressed before too long.</font></p><p><font size="4">The fluff abilities of the Bruiser have ALWAYS been sh*t. Literally. They make you look like sh*t.</font></p><p><font size="4">However, don't let any of that put you off  - as everyone knows, Bruisers are the most skilled players, are all hard as [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in real life and have to fight off birds with a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty stick. Conversely, all Monks are [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]s.</font></p><p><font size="4">Owain the British Bruiser</font> - 'Fighting In Pub Car-Parks Since 1987'</p>

[Teche]

<div></div>Im sorry but I hate posts like these.  I think you should go monk.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  GL with your choice.

[LordTa]

<div></div>You hate posts like this huh?   I hate posts like yours.  *pulls out forum troll stick*Thanks for helping out a relatively new player who recently came back to the game to give it a second chance.<div></div><p>Message Edited by LordTank on <span class="date_text">04-05-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:02 AM</span></p>

[Teche]

<div></div>Your welcome . you asked for advice, I gave it . You should for sure go monk..

[LordTa]

I asked for why should I go bruiser....to convince me to stay the course...Please read before posting trollish remarks...if I wanted such I would have posted in the monk forum.<div></div>

[Ether]

<div>I cant really understand the defensive tone from the OP since you are requesting people to take their time (from work or freetime) to respond. Nobody has to answer you at all. Regardless, the bruiser has been the most fun class for me until now and its a hard choice between that and a Brigand. I dont see how you could be unhappy with the bruiser, but if you want hard numbers, Im pretty sure the Monk outdamages us by 1.013 percent (+/- 0.001 percent). If that difference is essential for you to live out you life more fully, than go monk.</div>

[LordTa]

That is the thing though...like you said you don't have to post at all...so why post something sharp or trollish at all?If you don't want to give me your take then just don't post...you don't have to attack me and tell me I am basically not cut out for bruiser and I should just go monk.Furthermore, I have been reading horror stories on these boards and the monk ones on how bruisers were hurt by a proc nerf, and how most AP is more favorable for monks.My post was to find out more and shed light upon what I don't know about bruisers (and to seperate fact from fiction).No you don't have to respond and please don't if you are going to be mean about it.  Likewise I am coming here to seek advice from those who have fun with/experience with bruisers and in such don't waste my time either please./shrugs<div></div>

[Quicksilver74]

<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.

[Kuld]

<div></div>In my experience (level 69 bruiser) I would go bruiser for one reason....FD.  Yes, I understand Monks have it also, but our reuse timer is so short we can run through zones FDing every couple of secs.  I love to explore, so for me personally, I enjoy being a bruiser.  Add the fact that IMHO, FP is much better then Qeynos (lived there for 60 levels as a Templar) and Bruiser is the way to go.  Overall they are both about the same...if you pick apart the numbers and see Monk takes xxx damage compared to Bruiser taking xxx damage while dealing xxx damage, Im sure there is a difference, but it sure isn't anything huge and noticeable.

[Madmoon]

<div></div><div>Let me give you a piece of advice - play what you want.  ESPECIALLY in EQ2, where the penalties for choosing the wrong race/class combo are so miniscule.  You are more likely to do well with a charachter you like, whatever the combination, than you are by worrying overly much about a min or max.  Despite all the whining on all the boards, most people are perfectly happy with their choices.  Don't worry overly much about what you read negatively - most people adjust and move on.  That being said, a bruiser is very formidable, and in grouping with monks I dominate in some fights, while in some fights the monk does.  Either way, I contribute - a lot.  In the end, it's about attitude.  If all you are going to do is <em>play a toon</em>, it matters not either way.  If you are going to <em>be a charachter</em>, then what are you?  Quiet, observant, meditative, training your body and mind to be as one, dominating a fight with seemingly innocent tools, a blend of thought and action, accepting the rare defeat with grace?  Be a monk.  Pummeling those before you into submission, crushing your enemies with your hands, training your body to be an instrument of your mind and desires, meting out justice as <strong>you</strong> see fit, spitting in the dragon's eye before he tears your heart out?  Be a bruiser.</div><div> </div><div>Redmouser</div><div>Bruiser</div>

[Radigazt]

<div></div><p>Crab, I love your input bro, you're awesome.  But, in this instance, I gotta say this about the quote below:</p><p>   "Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us. "</p><p>Over - Satement - OfTheYear.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>No doubt that Close Mind is one of our very best spells, and it literally is a get-out-of-mez-free card when it's available.  But it's not always available, and it's not quite as uber as one might beleive from your quote man. </p><p>To the OP, play what you like, but here's the deal, there's a difference between PvE and PvP.  In PvP, Bruisers get a little bit of versatility in echange for less survivability and the inability to heal teammates.  Bruisers get Close Mind (excellent for avoiding being mezzed or getting mezzed then unmezzing), a Fear (nice in PvE for Adds and in PvP for effecting a hasty retreat), Sonic Fists (good in PvP for getting one last shot on runners, or in PvE for pulling mobs), and a faster recharging Feign Death.  Monks get Haste (extremely valuable trait that is now superior to the supposed DPS advantage ofBruisers, especially in conjunction with AA's), Tsunami (usually means they don't die in PvE or PvP), better healing, and the ability to heal teammates.  IMHO, both are solid all-around classes, neither is totally gimped and neither is really uber. </p>

[Kalem]

<div></div><p>Both classes are great.  It's a hard choice.  Currently if it came down to pure numbers Monks might have us by a tiny bit.  But I still have faith that the proc nerf will be dealt with.</p><p>Nerf or not we're tops at taking down normal (non epic) mobs fast.  We're explosive in the first few seconds of a fight.</p><p>If you preffer the grittier side of martial arts...the dark monk...the kick [Removed for Content] style (rp) of a bruiser, then choose this class.  The difference between us and monks is simply marginal.  By the way it's only the strength line of AA's that really caters to the monks...in my oppinion anyway.  I'm going int at the moment.</p>

[morningmists]

<div></div>i picked bruiser for an alt over monk because when monks start out on ~queen's~ island they look [Removed for Content] as [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]e, whereas bruisers come out of the womb ready to kick some [Removed for Content] so to speak

[Pnaxx]

<div></div><p>The other thing about this debate is, things will chage again...they always do. So in the end, if you want the type of char who can punch a hole in a wall to knock out the S.O.B. on the otherside ,who looked at him/her wrong a week ago, VS the char that would rather walk around the wall and use flashy moves ,and more of em cause they weak,  to teach this misguided person a lesson....then go Bruiser!</p><p>Its an attitude thing. The Bruiser is Bad [Removed for Content] with the chip on his/her shoulder and dares you to knock it off. Looks at you with bad intention from across the bar and will hit you when he/she is good an ready.</p><p>If you saw Sin City, the Micky Rourk character!</p><p>Again, We are offensive, bulldoze your way through mobs leaving a trail of bloodied beaten bodies along the way. As far as attitudes....maybe these comparisons will help...</p><p>Tank Abbott vs Joyce Gracie</p><p>Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee</p><p>Mike Tyson vs Ali</p><p>What is your mind set? Go with that and you will have a blast. When things are normal, Bruisers are stronger and more explosive than Monks hands down!</p>

[TheSummoned]

<span><blockquote><hr>Kuldor wrote:<div></div>In my experience (level 69 bruiser) I would go bruiser for one reason....FD.  Yes, I understand Monks have it also, but our reuse timer is so short we can run through zones FDing every couple of secs.  I love to explore, so for me personally, I enjoy being a bruiser.  Add the fact that IMHO, FP is much better then Qeynos (lived there for 60 levels as a Templar) and Bruiser is the way to go.  Overall they are both about the same...if you pick apart the numbers and see Monk takes xxx damage compared to Bruiser taking xxx damage while dealing xxx damage, Im sure there is a difference, but it sure isn't anything huge and noticeable.<hr></blockquote>Just to clear this up. FD (feign death) is a brawler ability, meaning both monks and bruisers get the same FD ability with the same reuse and the same % chance to work with the same name.</span><div></div>

[runamonk]

Honestly, it's not up to the bruiser community to convince you be a bruiser, a monk or any other class. What do YOU want to play? Why not play both for a little while and see how you feel about them?If I were you I would level both up to 20, doesn't take long at all with the new newbie stuff. Go for it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Sta]

<div></div><p>I feel good with my bruiser.</p><p>I would never trade him for a monk.</p>

[ganjookie]

If you question yourself OP on this issue, go monk.  we will be happier<div></div>

[NerissaRavenHeart]

And by all means if you can not decide merely on what the forum has produced informative wise, then play both and choose later after you get a feel for the both of the classes to keep one or the other. I myself I have both. But I do tend to like my Monk better. But I like the Brawler as well.Masuimi<div></div>

[Bewts]

<div></div><div>I'll accept that Monks are better tanks than Bruisers when you can prove to me that that 1k mitigation for 3 minutes and absorbing 3 hits that do at least 10% of your max health is > Tsunami for 12 (M1) seconds and outward calm for a max of 4.9k (M1) ward for 15 seconds.</div><div> </div><div>Oh, and I don't want to forget to point out that if you have to hit the OMG heal me hotkey, your self stun/mit buff is insta cast where both monk mit buffs are 3 second cast times.  In that 3x2 seconds a monk will likely die or lose aggro before the buffs land (read its 6 seconds to get the full effect of both buffs).</div><div> </div><div>Monks MADE better pullers until specific combat arts in T7 checked versus your mitigation and level instead of avoidance making Tsunami essentially useless as its avoidance based, now I wouldn't agrue with a bruiser who wants to pull and take 3 hits, no matter the damage as long as its over 10% of their max health (note that max health is around the 10k-12k range raid buffed) meaning ANY hit between 1k and 1.2k damage (most lvl 70+ heroic mobs hit brawlers for at least that much if not more, and I don't think I have to mention what raid mobs hit for)</div><div> </div><div>The only arguement monks can make over equally equipped bruiser is in regards to the ability to hold hate as our hate proc adds more hate (marginally IIRC) than the bruisers and procs more often ( 50 % for monks, 25% for bruisers).</div><div> </div><div>Haste arguement of Monks being able to self haste to 100% in any raid setting is essentially a moot point as in any well organized dps group, anyone can achieve 100% haste, 100% dps making the ability of monks to self buff to 100% haste only useful in non DPS group situations, soloing, PvPing and grouping.  Useable DPS between the monk and bruisers at the top end is essentially equal, regardless of the ability of a monk to self haste to 100%</div><div> </div><div>Currently as it stands, a monk who goes down the STR line and fights barehanded can out DPS two 55+ DR duel weild weapons which essentially means that even with most legendary if not all legendary and some fable DW weapons, monks should be able to out damage them by just having 4/4/8 AA invested in STR.  That screams nerf if you ask me.</div><div> </div><div>Now, I play a 70 monk, and I'm fairly well equipped.  I've also played my friends 70 bruiser on a second PC that I use for duoing (great duo btw is bruiser/monk at least in PvE).  Perhaps its just comfort, but I liked how my monk interacted in a PvE environment moreso than I did the Bruiser.</div><div> </div><div>If you are split between which to play -- pick which class you will enjoy.  Both are comprable classes, thats why they are called Brawlers. </div><div>If you want to tank more effectively, a Bruiser is a better choice. </div><div>If you want to solo, Bruiser is a better choice (bigger heal and faster recast than monk), not to mention the ability to fear an add or root it until you are done with the one you are killing (long as you dont damage it).  The 3 minute health drain 1k mit buff doesn't hurt either.</div><div>If you want to be the better DPS of the two, either works until they nerf the STR line DR for barehands and Then I would guess the DPS depends on weapons available with a slight edge to bruisers on combat arts overall, with a " * " for monks on haste dependant on group setups.</div><div>If you want utility for the group, both have their benefits Bruiser - Fear, Root.  Monk - Stifle, Group FD, Heal group member for 30% or more health.</div><div> </div><div>Bottom line, Pick which class you will enjoy more.  For me its a Monk, because I am comfortable with him now after 70 levels and 45 AA of grinding, questing and raiding.</div><p>Message Edited by Bewts on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:13 PM</span></p>

[ganjookie]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>NerissaRavenHeart wrote:And by all means if you can not decide merely on what the forum has produced informative wise, then play both and choose later after you get a feel for the both of the classes to keep one or the other. I myself I have both. But I do tend to like my Monk better<font color="#ff0000">. But I like the Brawler as well.</font>Masuimi<div></div><hr></blockquote><font color="#33cc33">psssst</font><font color="#33cc33"></font><font color="#33cc33"></font><font color="#33cc33">brawlers = monks and BRUISERS</font></span></div>

[Owa]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Bewts wrote:<div></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Haste arguement of Monks being able to self haste to 100% in any raid setting is essentially a moot point as in any well organized dps group, anyone can achieve 100% haste, 100% dps <font color="#ffff00">making the ability of monks to self buff to 100% haste <strong><u>only useful</u></strong></font><font color="#ffff00"><strong><u> in non DPS group situations, soloing, PvPing and grouping</u></strong>.</font> <hr></div></blockquote>:smileyvery-happy:<p>Message Edited by annaspider on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:06 AM</span></p>

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Pnaxx wrote:<div></div><p>The other thing about this debate is, things will chage again...they always do. So in the end, if you want the type of char who can punch a hole in a wall to knock out the S.O.B. on the otherside ,who looked at him/her wrong a week ago, VS the char that would rather walk around the wall and use flashy moves ,and more of em cause they weak,  to teach this misguided person a lesson....then go Bruiser!</p><p>Its an attitude thing. The Bruiser is Bad [Removed for Content] with the chip on his/her shoulder and dares you to knock it off. Looks at you with bad intention from across the bar and will hit you when he/she is good an ready.</p><p>If you saw Sin City, the Micky Rourk character!</p><p>Again, We are offensive, bulldoze your way through mobs leaving a trail of bloodied beaten bodies along the way. As far as attitudes....maybe these comparisons will help...</p><p>Tank Abbott vs Joyce Gracie</p><p>Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee</p><p>Mike Tyson vs Ali</p><p>What is your mind set? Go with that and you will have a blast. When things are normal, Bruisers are stronger and more explosive than Monks hands down!</p><hr></blockquote>lol this post is good. I don't think picking your class should be a hard descion. you should pick your class on the idea of the class more so rather than what the class can do. Nerfs and changes happen. What a bruiser is today maynot be a bruiser tommorrow. But soe's idea of a bruiser is most likely to stay the same. Also If you have a bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] bruiser mind your more likely to be a better bruiser. If you pick a class cause "oohhh i like that ability" you may not get into it as much as you should and takes away from the skill. So in closing if you gotta ask wiether you should be a monk or bruiser... GO GUARDIAN!</span><div></div>

[Gaige]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh please.  Watch for the buff, throw up tsunami, wait... = dead bruiser.</p><p>I'd pay a bruiser on BB if they could beat me.</p>

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh please.  Watch for the buff, throw up tsunami, wait... = dead bruiser.</p><p>I'd pay a bruiser on BB if they could beat me.</p><hr></blockquote>anyone else wanna chip in on hiring a bruiser to kick his [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]?</span><div></div>

[KeandraD]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>PhozFate wrote:<span>anyone else wanna chip in on hiring a bruiser to kick his [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]?</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>I'm with ya <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></div>

[LordTa]

Cannot you use a crowd control ability to counter his counter if he pops a tsu?<div></div>

[Owa]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh please.  Watch for the buff, throw up tsunami, wait... = dead bruiser.</p><p>I'd pay a bruiser on BB if they could beat me.</p><hr></blockquote><p><font size="4">How about this? How about rolling a Monk on Venekor and seeing how you do? After reading your posts I'm sure many of us would like to see the results. I'll be the big bald feller with the stick waiting for you at TS docks. </font></p><p><font size="4">I won't 'misunderestimate' you though - I'll try and get some Adept 1s. :smileywink:</font></p><p><font size="3">OTBBFIPCPS1987</font></p>

[Teche]

<div></div><div></div><div>I kicked his butt in dof beta, I doubt he is much better now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>EDIT: and i totaly suck at dueling.  really</div><p>Message Edited by Teche on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:36 AM</span></p>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh please.  Watch for the buff, throw up tsunami, wait... = dead bruiser.</p><p>I'd pay a bruiser on BB if they could beat me.</p><hr></blockquote>See ripostes happening, mez monk. Wait for mez to wear off, kill monk.

[Gaige]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Teche wrote:<div></div><div></div><div>I kicked his butt in dof beta, I doubt he is much better now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>EDIT: and i totaly suck at dueling.  really<hr></div></blockquote><p>Yup, I'm sure I didn't get better in 20 levels <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive.</p><p>Nane and Telpacpaw are the only bruisers on BB that have beat me, but I've also beat both of them.</p><p>Oh and Telpacpaw doesn't play anymore :o</p><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:See ripostes happening, mez monk. Wait for mez to wear off, kill monk.<hr></blockquote><p>You do realize monks can break your mez, right?</p><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p>

[Zigmun]

<div></div><p>"At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive."</p><p>No you were definately baiting and everyone here can see it</p><p>Nice try...</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Gaige]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zigmund9 wrote:<div></div><p>"At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive."</p><p>No you were definately baiting and everyone here can see it</p><p>Nice try...</p><hr></blockquote>Think what you want, I couldn't possibly care less honestly.

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zigmund9 wrote:<div></div><p>"At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive."</p><p>No you were definately baiting and everyone here can see it</p><p>Nice try...</p><hr></blockquote>Think what you want, I couldn't possibly care less honestly.<hr></blockquote>If you don't care why waste a post? unless its just to read your own writting</span><div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>PhozFate wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Zigmund9 wrote:<div></div><p>"At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive."</p><p>No you were definately baiting and everyone here can see it</p><p>Nice try...</p><hr></blockquote>Think what you want, I couldn't possibly care less honestly.<hr></blockquote>If you don't care why waste a post? unless its just to read your own writting</span><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Same reason as always - Ego</p>

[TheSummoned]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Teche wrote:<div></div><div></div><div>I kicked his butt in dof beta, I doubt he is much better now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>EDIT: and i totaly suck at dueling.  really<hr></div></blockquote><p>Yup, I'm sure I didn't get better in 20 levels <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive.</p><p>Nane and Telpacpaw are the only bruisers on BB that have beat me, but I've also beat both of them.</p><p>Oh and Telpacpaw doesn't play anymore :o</p><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:See ripostes happening, mez monk. Wait for mez to wear off, kill monk.<hr></blockquote><p>You do realize monks can break your mez, right?</p><p><font color="#ffff00">There's always fear after mezz... At any rate, both your tsunami and our close mind would be wasted.</font></p><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote></span><div></div>

[Gaige]

<div></div><blockquote><p></p><hr>PhozFate wrote:<p><span>If you don't care why waste a post? unless its just to read your own writting</span></p><hr></blockquote>Posting brings me happiness.

[ganjookie]

does not posting = death then?<div></div>

[WaachBack]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quicksilver74 wrote:<div></div>Close Mind - lvl 58 ancient spell.    makes us kill everyone who woudl otherwise have some sort of way to beat us.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh please.  Watch for the buff, throw up tsunami, wait... = dead bruiser.</p><p>I'd pay a bruiser on BB if they could beat me.</p><hr></blockquote><p><strike>Don't tell me you already forgot</strike>. :smileytongue:</p><p>Edit: I didn't see the follow up post.</p><p>Message Edited by WaachBack on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:16 PM</span></p>

[WaachBack]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Teche wrote:<div></div><div></div><div>I kicked his butt in dof beta, I doubt he is much better now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>EDIT: and i totaly suck at dueling.  really<hr></div></blockquote><p>Yup, I'm sure I didn't get better in 20 levels <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>At any rate I was more joking than anything, its funny the big, bad bruisers get so defensive.</p><p>Nane and Telpacpaw are the only bruisers on BB that have beat me, but I've also beat both of them.</p><p>Oh and Telpacpaw doesn't play anymore :o</p><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:See ripostes happening, mez monk. Wait for mez to wear off, kill monk.<hr></blockquote><p>You do realize monks can break your mez, right?</p><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class="date_text">04-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Bah and he's the only monk that ever gave me trouble!