Dual Wield - No - I'm not ranting, just a quick question/suggestion

[Dannd]

<div>Fellow Bruisers and Bruiser Dev,</div><div> </div><div>Just a quick question:</div><div> </div><div>With T7 came the ability for Bruisers/Monks to equip certain DW slashing and piercing dmg causing items.  However, our selection is extremely limited (even more so for those do not raid (I raid, so not complaining)).</div><div> </div><div>I think it would be more appropriate to allow our brawler class to equip other DW items as well.  I dont have a long, drawn out argument about this, but just a simple question.</div><div> </div><div>Would other brawlers like to see this implemented?  Personally, if I was coming up through the ranks of the l33t bruiser (lol), I would've loved to have equipped the PGT (Polished?  Granite Tomahawk) that I spent some time on completing.  Let's not forget the Short Sword of Ykesha, and other incredible DW items.  Additionally, there are several great items that were introduced in T6, etc.</div><div> </div><div>If we are having our skills back and we can raise them in those two areas, I think it would greatly enchance the careers of junior brawlers game-wide, so when they hit T7, or T8 for that matter, they are well prepared.</div><div> </div><div>I've come quite accustomed to using a 2h crush weapon now, but if I can get my hands on some of the scout class DW piercing/slashing weapons - you bet your bottom dollar I'm pulling my PGT off the wall in my house and usin' it - just cos I CAN!</div><div> </div><div>Talk amongst yourselves....</div><div> </div><div>BRUISER POWA!</div>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div>Fellow Bruisers and Bruiser Dev,</div><div> </div><div>Just a quick question:</div><div> </div><div>With T7 came the ability for Bruisers/Monks to equip certain DW slashing and piercing dmg causing items.  However, our selection is extremely limited (even more so for those do not raid (I raid, so not complaining)).</div><div> </div><div>I think it would be more appropriate to allow our brawler class to equip other DW items as well.  I dont have a long, drawn out argument about this, but just a simple question.</div><div> </div><div>Would other brawlers like to see this implemented?  Personally, if I was coming up through the ranks of the l33t bruiser (lol), I would've loved to have equipped the PGT (Polished?  Granite Tomahawk) that I spent some time on completing.  Let's not forget the Short Sword of Ykesha, and other incredible DW items.  Additionally, there are several great items that were introduced in T6, etc.</div><div> </div><div>If we are having our skills back and we can raise them in those two areas, I think it would greatly enchance the careers of junior brawlers game-wide, so when they hit T7, or T8 for that matter, they are well prepared.</div><div> </div><div>I've come quite accustomed to using a 2h crush weapon now, but if I can get my hands on some of the scout class DW piercing/slashing weapons - you bet your bottom dollar I'm pulling my PGT off the wall in my house and usin' it - just cos I CAN!</div><div> </div><div>Talk amongst yourselves....</div><div> </div><div>BRUISER POWA!</div><hr></blockquote><p>/Agree for sure !! i woulda loved to DW PGT ,SBD and SSOY like my swashie ))))</p><p> </p>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div></div>Bruisers should not get to use PGT, SSoY, or SBD unless scouts get to use crushing weapons. Bruisers already get access to every melee damage type in the game, be happy with it (and don't argue that scouts do, because the only two crushers we get are the spoon, and a worthless garbage T7 one).

[Dannd]

<div></div><p>Easy now, just making a recommendation.  I'll admit - I'm ignorant when it comes to whether scout classes can use crush weapons.  Oh wait, they can - crush arrows.  I know, I know not the same...just being sarcastic.</p><p>But read the subject line - I'm not trying to argue here, just making a suggestion.  Whether it'll be implemented is a totally different story.</p><p>Your opinion is noted and will be taken into consideration by SOE staff personnel.  If Gaige can nurf Rangers, then I'm sure I can get the ability for Bruiser to use PGT and other l33t scout items.</p><p>Look at our AA line - we're being set up for better dps (IMO).  Although we're listed as tanks - our avoidance barely balances with a plate tanks mitigation.  Often times, I'm DPS in my guild because, well, our tanks can take a beating better than we can.</p><p>Thanks for your input though.</p><p>BRUISER POWA!</p>

[Danter]

<blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><p>Your opinion is noted and will be taken into consideration by SOE staff personnel.  If Gaige can nurf Rangers, then I'm sure I can get the ability for Bruiser to use PGT and other l33t scout items.</p><hr></blockquote><p>What did Gaige have to do with Rangers?  The Sorcerer community were the ones crying for nerfs on Rangers.</p><p>On topic though, I don't think we should be able to equip all slash/pierce dual wielders like Scouts, but it would be cool to occassionally see a nice legendary dual wield blade that is equippable by Brawlers.</p><p>-Kald, 70 Bruiser Permafrost</p>

[Dannd]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Danterus wrote:<blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><p>Your opinion is noted and will be taken into consideration by SOE staff personnel.  If Gaige can nurf Rangers, then I'm sure I can get the ability for Bruiser to use PGT and other l33t scout items.</p><hr></blockquote><p>What did Gaige have to do with Rangers?  The Sorcerer community were the ones crying for nerfs on Rangers.</p><p>On topic though, I don't think we should be able to equip all slash/pierce dual wielders like Scouts, but it would be cool to occassionally see a nice legendary dual wield blade that is equippable by Brawlers.</p><p>-Kald, 70 Bruiser Permafrost</p><hr></blockquote><p>List one weapon of our currently that has power regen?  PGT is the one that comes to mind for me!  We have the lowest power pool out of all the classes incident to LU 13 - now wouldn't that be a nice addition to your arsenal when your out fighting?  I know potions and robes and rings arent doing the trick to say the least.  I know there is quested HQ gear, but I'm talking about weapons.</p><p>The thing about Gaige - I dunno, I read somewhere where someone posted a sarcastic remark about him bringing Rangers down.  Just being equally sarcastic.</p><p>BRUISER POWA!</p>

[Dannd]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div>Bruisers should not get to use PGT, SSoY, or SBD unless scouts get to use crushing weapons. Bruisers already get access to every melee damage type in the game, be happy with it (and don't argue that scouts do, because the only two crushers we get are the spoon, and a worthless garbage T7 one).<hr></blockquote><p>I point to a link I found where a fellow scout of yours is inquiring about the crushing ability and how to increase it.  Just food for thought.  Am I under the impression that you can equip our batons and katas, etc. but we cant equip your awesome piercing and slashing items?  If that's the case, then Holler!  I've got my sights set.  :smileyindifferent:</p><p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=66803" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=66803</a></p><p>BRUISER POWA!</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Danndak on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:34 AM</span></p>

[Owa]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div><font color="#ffff00">Bruisers should not get to use PGT, SSoY, or SBD unless scouts get to use crushing weapons.</font> Bruisers already get access to every melee damage type in the game, be happy with it (and don't argue that scouts do, because the only two crushers we get are the spoon, and a worthless garbage T7 one).<hr></blockquote><p><font size="4">Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, mate! If you can think of a fabulous brawler-only weapon that you want to use then go for it...and once you find it can you let me know? Cause it seems to me that brawler gear and weapons in general are kinda gimpy - especially when it comes to heritage items.</font></p><p><font size="4">Oh, and if  this  'access to every melee damage type in the game' doesn't include swords, axes, daggers and bows it doesn't leave us much to play with does it?</font></p><p>OTBBFIPCPS10987</p><p><font size="4"></font> </p>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Danterus wrote:<blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><p>Your opinion is noted and will be taken into consideration by SOE staff personnel.  If Gaige can nurf Rangers, then I'm sure I can get the ability for Bruiser to use PGT and other l33t scout items.</p><hr></blockquote><p>What did Gaige have to do with Rangers?  The Sorcerer community were the ones crying for nerfs on Rangers.</p><p>On topic though, I don't think we should be able to equip all slash/pierce dual wielders like Scouts, but it would be cool to occassionally see a nice legendary dual wield blade that is equippable by Brawlers.</p><p>-Kald, 70 Bruiser Permafrost</p><hr></blockquote><p><font color="#ffff00">List one weapon of our currently that has power regen?  PGT is the one that comes to mind for me!</font>  We have the lowest power pool out of all the classes incident to LU 13 - now wouldn't that be a nice addition to your arsenal when your out fighting?  I know potions and robes and rings arent doing the trick to say the least.  I know there is quested HQ gear, but I'm talking about weapons.</p><p>The thing about Gaige - I dunno, I read somewhere where someone posted a sarcastic remark about him bringing Rangers down.  Just being equally sarcastic.</p><p>BRUISER POWA!</p><hr></blockquote>Doesnt PGT have a ward proc not power regen ?

[DarkMirrax]

<div>Oh and zerkers can use SSOY and PGT so there again another reason a member of the fighter tree should use them</div>

[Deeds]

<div>Our Prismatic batons 1 and 2 have power regen.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Tzing</div>

[Dannd]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Deedbit wrote:<div>Our Prismatic batons 1 and 2 have power regen.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Tzing</div><hr></blockquote>Yeah, but last I heard, they don't stack.</span></div>

[Danter]

<div></div><p>I don't think weapons are the problem, I think our armor is.  You never see leather armor of any type with any kind of FT in it.  It's always either plate or cloth.  The jewelry that does have FT in it are mage/priest oriented.</p><p>In normal grouping, the fighter burns power faster than every guy in the group because he's in combat about 5s before everyone else so he usually misses a pulse of 8% power from drink.  I have no idea why SOE does not give more fighter oriented FT items.</p><p>Also, what seems to be a trend is fighters getting Regen 3 items.  When you have 9-10k HPs, Regen 3 effectively does nothing and is a waste of an effect.  In a one minute fight, I'll gain a whopping 36 HP per minute which is a whopping .36% heal if I have 10k HP.   It should be more like Regen 30-50 to make a difference.</p><p>-Kald, 70 Bruiser Permafrost</p>

[vladsamier1]

<div></div>I personally think it would be dumb to allow brawlers to being able to use some of the items mentioned earlier. If you want to equip them that bad then reroll a scout class. As mentioned earlier scouts have very few options to be able to deal crushing damage... Brawlers get to use all damage types via fist wraps.... I personally think it would be dumb to see a brawler running around with swords and such...

[Gaige]

<div></div>I've seen some t6/t7 leather with flowing thought on it and melee stats - like the bracers from Siyamak for example.

[Pouncer74]

<div></div><p>I do not agree with this suggestion for one basic reason.  I feel that one of the huge appeals to the brawler classes is their uniqueness in equipment and feel.  Brawler only fist weopons help add a special feel to these 2 classes that help seperate them from other tanks and scouts.  By opening the door to letting us use other weopon choices you also open the door to letting other classes use our weopons.  There are 2 brawlers, but there are 6 scouts and 4 plate tanks.  We are the most unique class subgroup and I very much want to keep us that way. </p><p>If anything, they need to add more heritage/legendary/fabled drops that are brawler only.  There is a whole eq1 history of items they could make heritages for for brawlers.  I do not count the crook heritage due to poor stats for a 2h and rahotep due to it being a 1h <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  The wyrmsteel looks like a great one for us....but it is only one and will be out of reach for most players.</p><p>I feel we need more rare gi with more design choices....and ideally unique ones to seperate bruisers from monks.</p><p>I feel we need more rare brawler weopons!..KoS is introducing a lot of great ideas....but they need to bring more brawler only slashers and peircers for the sub 60 players.</p><p>Finally they really need to increase the quality and variety of the looks to leather armor.  Especially for bruisers, there are so many very cool, intimidating, non monk and non druid looking leather ideas they could go with.  I'd like to see more of them.</p><p>Please do not make brawlers more like any other class group.  Just make us more of what we are and should be.</p><p> </p><p>Krutt Fuzzybottom</p><p>70 Bruiser</p><p>Club FU</p><p>Blackburrow</p>

[Dannd]

<div></div><p>Pouncer,</p><p>I agree with several of your points.  We are a unique class.  I take pride in that.  You listed our armor as needing major upgrades.  I absolutely agree.  But, realistically, how many resists and mitigation can  you add to leather armor before it becomes plate armor?  But, that's besides the point - just wanted to let you know that I'm behind ya 100% on the armor issue.</p><p>I'm not here trying to make my fellow Bruisers or sheepish Monk cousins agree with me.  Just wanted to see what the majority thought.  I personally wouldn't mind having the katana swoard floating around T7.  Or, how's about some uber crescent axe.  Tell me that doesn't fit a Bruiser or sheepish Monk (:smileywink<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> play/roleplay style?</p><p>Thanks for the input though.</p><p>Your brother in arms,</p>

[Kalem]

<div></div><p>From a roleplay standpoint there is nothing wrong with monks and bruisers wielding slashing weapons...  I think swords with an asian flavor would work really well here.</p><p>What I don't like is the thought of having all of the slashing weapons available to us.  If such a thing were to occur you know that other classes would just complain until they had access to our weapons as well, and once that happens we lose some of our unique flavor as pointed out by Krutt.</p><p>What they need to do is add some mid level HQ's or  equivelant quests that would reward bruisers and monks with weapons that can compete with those offered by some of the existing HQ's.</p><p>P.S.</p><p>Give us craftable GI's!</p>

[Maelwy]

<div></div>nah, We have enough weapon TYPES available to us as it is.  What i'd like is some viable options in t7 --  Crafted dw's are rather lacking this tier.  looted dw's are no better.  By 70, grizzfazzle crook becomes the obvious stat and DR choice, and it's got the worst animations for any weapon type we can wield.  Staff of arresting is at least a Bo Staff, but lacks in the stat/dr comparatively.

[Zh]

Perhaps what would be nice to see is weapons added down through the levels aimed at the brawler class. Knuckles with spikes on them would do piercing damage and be of the piercing type but would still fit the class. As well as perhaps claw type weapons that would be slashing.<div></div>

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Zhek wrote:Perhaps what would be nice to see is weapons added down through the levels aimed at the brawler class. Knuckles with spikes on them would do piercing damage and be of the piercing type but would still fit the class. As well as perhaps claw type weapons that would be slashing.<div></div><hr></blockquote>umm this already exsist. Cestus = piercing damage fist weapons, Cestii = slashing damage fist weapons. Only problem with them (wasn't a problem untill recently) is that they using the crushing skill and do slash/pierce damage. At high levels we now actully have weapons that use pierce/slash skills.</span><div></div>

[Miracole]

first is this, then crusaders will wanna duel weild. i mean c'mon, all the other fighters can duel wield, why can't crusaders!then crusaders will think they should be able to use 2 handed staffs because, c'mon, they are crusaders, and all the other fighters can use 2 handed staffs, why can't crusaders! then crusaders will think hey maybe we should get ranged weapons too, all the other fighters can use ranged weapons, why can't we!then us brawlers can again ask the questions such as well, there are other wonderful cool hq weapons like ebbc, all the other fighters can use ebbc, why can't we!then zerkers will think, hey, we should be able to use cetus and fist wraps, i mean that's the only weapon in the game we CAN'T use, now that brawlers can use daggers and axe, and them crusaders are duel weilding, why not just complete the circle and make us be able to use ALL the weapons!in no time at all, you will have scouts with 2 handed flails whacking mobs and bruisers backstabbing with rapiers, narrah rejoice once more.<div></div>

[Dannd]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Miracole wrote:first is this, then crusaders will wanna duel weild. i mean c'mon, all the other fighters can duel wield, why can't crusaders!then crusaders will think they should be able to use 2 handed staffs because, c'mon, they are crusaders, and all the other fighters can use 2 handed staffs, why can't crusaders! then crusaders will think hey maybe we should get ranged weapons too, all the other fighters can use ranged weapons, why can't we!then us brawlers can again ask the questions such as well, there are other wonderful cool hq weapons like ebbc, all the other fighters can use ebbc, why can't we!then zerkers will think, hey, we should be able to use cetus and fist wraps, i mean that's the only weapon in the game we CAN'T use, now that brawlers can use daggers and axe, and them crusaders are duel weilding, why not just complete the circle and make us be able to use ALL the weapons!in no time at all, you will have scouts with 2 handed flails whacking mobs and bruisers backstabbing with rapiers, narrah rejoice once more.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>In all fairness, this game talks about balance and trying to keep things somewhat realistic.  That being said, is it unrealistic for a Bruiser to use a dagger (i.e., knife)?  We are thugs to a certain extent y'know.  On the other hand, it is unrealistic for a thug to be running around with a long [Removed for Content] sword.  I'm just trying to convey that I'm seeing both sides.  I just wanted a great conversational piece to throw towards my fellow BRUISERs. </p><p>I'm not calling for a super duper change, yadda, yadda, yadda.  Just expressing my opinion.  And I tell you what - there have been some quality responses on here that have really made me change my point of view on the whole subject matter.  I want to push for HQs that tailor more towards Brawlers in general.  I'm sick of looking at the trophy's on the wall in my in game house.  I just want to be able to use them - tis all.</p><p>But, with respect to what you typed, it would make more sense to have certian weapons that just "fit" to a class stick with a class:  I.e., Flails should be used by Warriors, Crusaders, etc.  Cesti and et al for Brawlers, and torches for scouts.  heh.</p><p>How does a DW short spear fit into the role of a Scout?  I honestly dont know.  How does a Katana fit into a plate tanks role?  That just boggles me.  How is it that we haven't seen a great HQ weapon that a Bruiser/Monk can use?  One+ year after release and we havent seen that. </p><p>Talk amongst yerselves...</p>

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Miracole wrote:first is this, then crusaders will wanna duel weild. i mean c'mon, all the other fighters can duel wield, why can't crusaders!then crusaders will think they should be able to use 2 handed staffs because, c'mon, they are crusaders, and all the other fighters can use 2 handed staffs, why can't crusaders! then crusaders will think hey maybe we should get ranged weapons too, all the other fighters can use ranged weapons, why can't we!then us brawlers can again ask the questions such as well, there are other wonderful cool hq weapons like ebbc, all the other fighters can use ebbc, why can't we!then zerkers will think, hey, we should be able to use cetus and fist wraps, i mean that's the only weapon in the game we CAN'T use, now that brawlers can use daggers and axe, and them crusaders are duel weilding, why not just complete the circle and make us be able to use ALL the weapons!in no time at all, you will have scouts with 2 handed flails whacking mobs and bruisers backstabbing with rapiers, narrah rejoice once more.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>In all fairness, this game talks about balance and trying to keep things somewhat realistic.  That being said, is it unrealistic for a Bruiser to use a dagger (i.e., knife)?  We are thugs to a certain extent y'know.  On the other hand, it is unrealistic for a thug to be running around with a long [Removed for Content] sword.  I'm just trying to convey that I'm seeing both sides.  I just wanted a great conversational piece to throw towards my fellow BRUISERs. </p><p>I'm not calling for a super duper change, yadda, yadda, yadda.  Just expressing my opinion.  And I tell you what - there have been some quality responses on here that have really made me change my point of view on the whole subject matter.  I want to push for HQs that tailor more towards Brawlers in general.  I'm sick of looking at the trophy's on the wall in my in game house.  I just want to be able to use them - tis all.</p><p>But, with respect to what you typed, it would make more sense to have certian weapons that just "fit" to a class stick with a class:  I.e., Flails should be used by Warriors, Crusaders, etc.  Cesti and et al for Brawlers, and torches for scouts.  heh.</p><p>How does a DW short spear fit into the role of a Scout?  I honestly dont know.  How does a Katana fit into a plate tanks role?  That just boggles me.  <font color="#ff0000">How is it that we haven't seen a great HQ weapon that a Bruiser/Monk can use</font><font color="#ff0000">?  One+ year after release and we havent seen that. </font></p><p>Talk amongst yerselves...</p><hr></blockquote>Wyrmsteel baby. What other weapon do you need?</span><div></div>

[Miracole]

i do think it's more of a problem now than ever because for a long time umarmed proc makes barefist a good viable option for us bruisers.... but after the offensive stance change it no longer is..... but i am still iffy about hte idea with bruisers using daggers and knives simply because for so long (and i have been playing this game since day 1) bruisers are brawlers and brawlers and knives just ain't right........ it just ain't right! i mean we do have a great selection of weapons already...as far as hq goes... ahh, crook, we can use crook!!!<div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>vladsamier135 wrote:<div></div>I personally think it would be dumb to allow brawlers to being able to use some of the items mentioned earlier. If you want to equip them that bad then reroll a scout class. As mentioned earlier scouts have very few options to be able to deal crushing damage... Brawlers get to use all damage types via fist wraps.... I personally think it would be dumb to see a brawler running around with swords and such...<hr></blockquote><p>Check the sig , i have a scout that used them thanks ...</p><p> </p><p>just saying from a roleplay perspective whats wrong with a monk/bruiser having a katana ??? all monks have katanas and nunchuck ??!!! have any of you guys seen "The Hitman" with Jet Li ??</p>

[PhozFa]

I really don't care about using daggers, they don't appeal to me but really some swords should be able to be used by brawlers. We ARE martial artist. Swords are very common in martial arts. Large swords are for the plate tanks thou. They can have that heavy hunk of metal. But i think 2 handed katanas that are a quick delay would be perfect. They don't even have to be brawler only<div></div>

[Owa]

<div></div><p><font size="4">I'd personally prefer it if all Bruiser weapons were knuckledusters...but that's just me.  The more important point is that whatever shape or form our weapons take they should be as plentiful and as powerful as those available to other classes. And they're not. We're horribly under-served in heritage weapons, for example - with no real explanation as to why. I'm running round with the Heirophant's Crook right now and I can tell you it's an embarrassing sight for all concerned...</font></p><p>OTBBFIPCPS1987</p><p><font size="4"></font> </p>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>annaspider wrote:<div></div><p><font size="4">I'd personally prefer it if all Bruiser weapons were knuckledusters...but that's just me.  The more important point is that whatever shape or form our weapons take they should be as plentiful and as powerful as those available to other classes. And they're not. We're horribly under-served in heritage weapons, for example - with no real explanation as to why. I'm running round with the Heirophant's Crook right now and I can tell you it's an embarrassing sight for all concerned...</font></p><p>OTBBFIPCPS1987</p><p><font size="4"></font> </p><hr></blockquote>HAHAH I hate the look on the Crook

[Maelwy]

<div></div>you aren't alone.  Out of all of our main combat animation forms, fist, bo, and staff, the only one i truly hate is the crook/staff animations.  I LOVE the Bo and fist, but i'm embarrassed to pull out my Grizzlefazzle, as i was with the H Crook.

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Danndak wrote:<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>The-Fourm-Pirate wrote:<div></div>Bruisers should not get to use PGT, SSoY, or SBD unless scouts get to use crushing weapons. Bruisers already get access to every melee damage type in the game, be happy with it (and don't argue that scouts do, because the only two crushers we get are the spoon, and a worthless garbage T7 one).<hr></blockquote><p>I point to a link I found where a fellow scout of yours is inquiring about the crushing ability and how to increase it.  Just food for thought.  Am I under the impression that you can equip our batons and katas, etc. but we cant equip your awesome piercing and slashing items?  If that's the case, then Holler!  I've got my sights set.  :smileyindifferent:</p><p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=66803" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=66803</a></p><p>BRUISER POWA!</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Danndak on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:34 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><p>That impression is 110% incorrect. We get access to ONE baton style weapon and ONE fist style weapon, plus the spoon. All of these weapons are also, total junk, although the fist is decent for hunting ravasect. Being able to use 2 crappy t7 weapons and 1 even crappier T6 weapon is really nothing.</p>

[littleman17]

<div>WE SHOULD NEVER EVER BE ABLE TO USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE ALREADY USE... hell being able to use staves, maces and other such frilly weapons is pushing it in my opinion.</div>

[PhozFa]

But i wanna wield a rubber chicken and use pez as my ranged attack<div></div>