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Gungo
03-24-2006, 12:45 AM
<div></div><div>You know i think its about time the dev's start putting more brawler specific procs on ledgendary fabled gear (again).</div><div> </div><div>Mind you tier 5 procs and effects were great fro brawlers and i would liek to see them reinserted into T7 gear.</div><div>For instance take a look at the Vulcanized T5 gear off Nagalik or Cryptic Reinforced Tunic off Meeting of Minds or the Leather gear can't remeber the name of it off King Zatan in EF. Now i love the change from making procs mroe then just defensive, but as a brawler we need to have our gear more tanking oriented.</div><div> </div><div>lets just brain storm some ideas here shall we (some ideas that are old and new)</div><div> </div><div>previosuly used ideas-</div><div> </div><div>Out of encounter defensive hate proc- Previously on vulcanized boots (great for when it was needed)</div><div> </div><div>raise hate position by 1 defensive proc- previosuly on  vulcanized headband</div><div> </div><div>Slow % offensive proc(and dd component)- Previously on Cryptic Reinforced tunic (this tunic also had a def stifle proc which it why it was a great tanking or offensive tunic)</div><div> </div><div>Stifle defensive and offensive procs procs (even if they dont work on epics, although i think some armour procs should since it would be un predictable and much needed help for brawlers tanking)- many many items had this</div><div> </div><div>Stun offensive and defensive (even if they dont work on epic, although soem should since it would unpredictable)- many many items had this</div><div> </div><div>battlement of mind (5 power regen)- Was on alot of items in t5 it was way overpower for that tier and rightfully so, but i still see many peopel using it from old t5 gear and on a well designed item i think it can have its place in t7 again.</div><div> </div><div>Stone skin proc- on leather gear which i havent seen at all</div><div> </div><div>More defensive DD procs- alot of t5 gear had Direct damage defensive procs even some had aoe dd procs</div><div> </div><div>offensive deprocs- lower slash crush peirce or slows or lowers DPS</div><div> </div><div>ward defensive procs - adds a small spell or physical ward</div><div> </div><div>Mitigation defensive procs- adds a small mitigation buff</div><div> </div><div>how about an armour offensive proc that procs a special atk  like a roundhouse kick or an aoe atk/knockback (nonepic)</div><div> </div><div>how about armour w a riposte proc</div><div> </div><div>Damage shield  defensive proc-procs a 40hp damage shield lasts 30secs</div><div> </div><div> </div>

Parasite
03-24-2006, 01:33 PM
<div>What's the point ?</div><div> </div><div>By the time they fixed bruiser tanking , the new expansion will be available anyways ...</div><div>Don't get me wrong the stuff u posted there would kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].Roughhousing encounter !Anything Defensive is good, We need all the help we can get to keep our spot as "tank".</div><div>But not likely to happen, slowly fading out into the grey leaving the glory to guardians and other plate's.Don't get me wrong, it's possible for us to tank, but why would you bother having the chance of your MT being one shotted whilest guardian just tower of stone's it ?. Epic*4 Encounters are not our thing. We can still tank Epic*2 and heroics just fine.Xcept maybe HoF wich is a lot trickyer, but then again it is for every tank so far that i've heard.</div><div> </div><div>Greetings</div><div>LU21 Dissapointed Bruiser</div>

Maelwy
03-25-2006, 12:54 AM
<div></div><div></div><div>Heh, I still use my vulcanized boots when tanking (most of the time) - It's about 20 pts less mitigation than some quested t7 boots I have, and 10 less str.  But that out of encounter hate proc is Golden!   I'd like to see gear like the Carapace get a similar proc, so i can retire my old used boots.  I'd also like to see some updated haste gear, since the stats on fbss can't compete anymore...  and our +dps mods and 25% proc on rumble just doesn't compare (in any way shape or form) with the monk haste + 50% hate proc. </div><div> </div><div>Also...checked it out last night...upgrading to the boots of bashing (compared to the vulcanized) grants me a mere 1.6% more mitigation.  So I would take a 3048 pt hit with the vulcanized boots compared to it being a 3000 pt hit from a mob with boots of bashing.  Totally not worth getting rid of them at this time....</div><p>Message Edited by Maelwys1 on <span class="date_text">03-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:56 AM</span></p>