Difference between Bruiser & Monk?

[SolZer]

Greetings.  What's the main difference between Bruisers and Monks?  I have played a Monk some, but not a Bruiser.  I'm interested in opinions here.  Much thanks!<div></div>

[seudai]

<div></div>Alot of the combat arts are simliar with different names.   Bruiser used to relay on proc's for a nice dps boost more than monks I believe.  However they have laid a nerf on proc dmg (only one per combat ability hit I believe).  I used to use jolt or whatever its called all the time, not I dont even have it hot bar'd.  You get a nifty range attack called sonic fists at 55 & single target mez early on plus more hp's and agi on avg (I believe).  Monks have self invis and their heals can target other players plus they have a nice haste boost & and a kick butt abliity called tsuamni.  Used to be monks out-numbered bruiser 10-1, however I think its about averaged out now.Oh yea at 58 I have 4 knockdown/stun abilities.  Plus close mind.<div></div><p>Message Edited by seudainx on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:09 PM</span></p>

[WapcapletT]

Basically right now, monks can self haste themselves to like 80% or something silly in full offensive, and bruisers get a rockin 20% ish DPS buff to their group. Yay?Yeah we get more control over mobs, while monks get more control over themselves.<div></div>

[Poh]

seriosuly need to do something about our [Removed for Content] offensive stance I mean we are the BRUISERS!!<div></div>

[Morrgan_Soerenson]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>seudainx wrote:<div></div>Alot of the combat arts are simliar with different names.   Bruiser used to relay on proc's for a nice dps boost more than monks I believe.  However they have laid a nerf on proc dmg (only one per combat ability hit I believe). <font color="#6633ff"> I used to use jolt or whatever its called all the time, not I dont even have it hot bar'd.</font>  You get a nifty range attack called sonic fists at 55 & single target mez early on plus more hp's and agi on avg (I believe).  Monks have self invis and their heals can target other players plus they have a nice haste boost & and a kick butt abliity called tsuamni.  Used to be monks out-numbered bruiser 10-1, however I think its about averaged out now.Oh yea at 58 I have 4 knockdown/stun abilities.  Plus close mind.<div></div><p>Message Edited by seudainx on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:09 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>err, why? it is one of the coolest combat arts out there... whish they would have made that a master2 choice instead of darting sparrow.... sure it doe not prog on EVERY hit (in darting sparrow) but it progs on every hit you make, be it CA, or autoattack... so what is the problem, mine is running out of progs after 5 to 8 seconds or so... sometimes more if it is a ^s who parries a lot, but otherwise... this CA is just sweet (as in Milka).cheersOlaf</span></div>

[Ashdaren]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Poham wrote:seriosuly need to do something about our [Removed for Content] offensive stance I mean we are the BRUISERS!!<div></div><hr></blockquote>Start to give your feeling about it in the related thread, Bruiser are missing voice number still we can raise some issues if we work together

[Ashdaren]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Morrgan_Soerenson wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>seudainx wrote:<div></div>Alot of the combat arts are simliar with different names.   Bruiser used to relay on proc's for a nice dps boost more than monks I believe.  However they have laid a nerf on proc dmg (only one per combat ability hit I believe). <font color="#6633ff"> I used to use jolt or whatever its called all the time, not I dont even have it hot bar'd.</font>  You get a nifty range attack called sonic fists at 55 & single target mez early on plus more hp's and agi on avg (I believe).  Monks have self invis and their heals can target other players plus they have a nice haste boost & and a kick butt abliity called tsuamni.  Used to be monks out-numbered bruiser 10-1, however I think its about averaged out now.Oh yea at 58 I have 4 knockdown/stun abilities.  Plus close mind.<div></div><p>Message Edited by seudainx on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">11:09 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>err, why? it is one of the coolest combat arts out there... whish they would have made that a master2 choice instead of darting sparrow.... sure it doe not prog on EVERY hit (in darting sparrow) but it progs on every hit you make, be it CA, or autoattack... so what is the problem, mine is running out of progs after 5 to 8 seconds or so... sometimes more if it is a ^s who parries a lot, but otherwise... this CA is just sweet (as in Milka).cheersOlaf</span></div><hr></blockquote>Clue : The monk skill proc 8 time while the bruiser one proc 5 time

[Kelia]

I group with a fellow Monk guildie all the time and we are pretty much interchangeable. It's really the specials that seem to make the big difference. Monk's have Tsunami, which my guild uses all the time in raids. Our offensive stance gives an awesome poison resist. Monks have group FD, a pretty handy little skill. Bruisers can self-heal while Monks can heal others. Off the top of my head that's what I can think of.<div></div>

[ganjookie]

Bruisers = Chuck NorrisMonks = Ducky from 16 candles<div></div>

[Gaige]

<div></div>Monks are awesome and get chicks, bruisers are... hmm.  Yeah you guys pretty much bring the suck <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Sorry.

[ganjookie]

True monks do get the chicks, but they just want to be friends.  At least with a bruiser we can get some, even if they are trolls.<div></div>

[Poh]

Rofl true dat!!<div></div>

[Risker]

<div><font color="#cc00ff">I'd actually switch to a monk.....  we got a major nerf with the proc changes and our offensive stance should be 50% chance to proc considering monks get such amazing haste etc.</font></div><div><font color="#cc00ff"></font> </div><div><font color="#cc00ff">Monks also get invis which is nice <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div>

[Gungo]

<div></div><p>Monks do better dps and bruisers tank better... wait isn't it suppsoe to be the opposite?</p><p>truth be told that is ruff-ly what it is becoming. Monks can w AA's break 1k dps. i Havent heard of any reports of bruisers doing that.</p><p>Bruisers do tend to have better mitgation due to the 3 min buff and with the plethora of +deflection items hittign the market the cap to deflection can be reached for bruisers or monks. Leavign bruisers with the same avodiance and better mitgation. Now given the fact we also self heal 2x faster, are able to purge ourselves of many ailments, and stop extremly powerful nukes are Bruisers better tanks and monks better DPS? (and mezz or fear adds in heoric group settings)</p><p>I cna say this though i think monks do still hold agro better due to thier version of the hate proc, but i tend to think the classes may have some skilsl backwards now. Do i really care nope. The difference is basically a wash and i rather the devs not mess with something that works, but it is something to debate.</p>

[TheHidden]

As a monk i can explain tsunami a lil to you guysafter next update tsunami at adept 3 is a 10.5 seconds Immuninty to AUTO-ATTACK only attacks... with a recharge of 3 minsit does not stop any spell damage in my expereince. not even crushing or piercing or slashing combat-arts.Our invis does help. but since most mobs you really wanna runby see invis. its rather limited now.Our heal heals for much less 29-35% at master 1. and goes off every 3 minutes.Our group feign death rocks but doesnt always feign death ... its an indivudiaul 84% chance on each member of group.we get a ward against all magic damage abiltiies (however. heat has gone trhough it. as well as all slashing piercing and curshing CA's)ward lasts 15 seconds and at adept one wards against 3700 damage. 90 second recharge.our lvl 65 ancient teachings dragonbreath is a frontal arc Dot. at adept 1 does 75-97 damage.isntantly and every second. recharge of 90 seconds.am i forgetting anything?<div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div>Monks are awesome and get chicks, bruisers are... hmm.  Yeah you guys pretty much bring the suck <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Sorry.<hr></blockquote><p><font size="2" face="Century" color="#ffff00">Arnt monks celebate ?? :smileyvery-happy:</font></p><p><font size="2" face="Century" color="#ffff00"></font> </p><p><font face="Century"><font size="2" color="#ffff00">Im sure the chicks would love a Hermaphrodite Monk ;p go back to worshiping lord bruce lee gaige :smileyvery-happy:</font></font></p>

[DarkMirrax]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Risker wrote:<div><font color="#cc00ff">I'd actually switch to a monk.....  we got a major nerf with the proc changes and our offensive stance should be 50% chance to proc considering monks get such amazing haste etc.</font></div><div> </div><div><font size="5" color="#ffff66">Monks also get invis which is nice <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><hr></blockquote>Now that comment narks me off , who [Removed for Content] needs invis when u can get some [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] totems for next to nothing ????? no power drain as well so we can come out of invis full ready for battle .. who cares monks get wind walk ??? it sucks

[Spiritcloud]

<div></div>Now that just sounds like blatant jealousy to me =P (That's ok though, as a Monk I'm jealous of Sonic Fists -_^)

[ShinmaRyche]

<div></div><font color="#ffff00">Thats ok, we can be jealous of the monks braggin on topping 1000 dps.</font>

[Gungo]

<div></div>well with the nerf to ranger dps and the incoming nerf to summoners DPS if any fighter is breaking 1k dps even in raids. We can all expect the nerf bat to be polished up.

[familyguyfan95]

<div></div>[Removed for Content] monks are celebet. Everybody knows the chicks dig the bad boys...we arent the guys to marry..just the ones to [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]!.  I got 10 alimony suits pending...[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] kerrans and their litters!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ShinmaRyche]

<div></div><font color="#ffff00">Rofl. :smileyvery-happy:</font>

[PhozFa]

<span><blockquote><hr>Risker wrote:<div><font color="#cc00ff">I'd actually switch to a monk.....  we got a major nerf with the proc changes and our offensive stance should be 50% chance to proc considering monks get such amazing haste etc.</font></div><div><font color="#cc00ff"></font> </div><div><font color="#cc00ff"><u>Monks also get invis which is nice</u> <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></div><hr></blockquote>Who needs invis? we have something better. FD. In certain situations where invis is better get a totem for like 2gp for 7 charges. But mainly i FD where i need to go. I'm a bruiser i don't need to be sneaky the mobs should be afraid of me not the other way around. Monks can keep thier invis i'd rather mez and scare the crap out of the mob while giving it a mean look stare down untill i continue to totally ruin his day.</span><div></div>