Curious.....

[MrYZF]

So I went away for a few days and just noticed they finally put in a fist skill for us...... Finally.  However, our stances still deal with crushing, instead of fists.  Maybe one day we'll buff fists instead of just crushing with our stances. Shidoshi Naguriai 60 Bruiser Arakiss 60 Fury Toxxulia <div></div>

[Colossaltitan]

Whatever they do, I don't really care. Just wish they'd make up their mind.  Tired of looking at M1 Magmatic Fists seeing Proc significantly higher on bare-fists, yet... oh.. umm.. they aren't DW even tho you have two hands & they can't hit named.

[MrYZF]

well considering the only time i use crush is when the mob is immune to slash/pierce, or when im using my prismatic. would be nice if my primary buff would increase something other than just crush.......... Im sure everyone thats a brawler and has half a brain would agree heh.  and yeah i agree with u, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] that not equiping a wep makes us basically 1 handed. thats even worse than the buff situation Shidoshi Naguriai 60 Bruiser Arakiss 60 Fury Toxxulia <div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MrYZF wrote:<BR>well considering the only time i use crush is when the mob is immune to slash/pierce, or when im using my prismatic. would be nice if my primary buff would increase something other than just crush.......... Im sure everyone thats a brawler and has half a brain would agree heh. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>No, I wouldn't.  Since even if we're using cestii (slashing) or cestus (piercing) our to hit modifyer not to mention every other melee roll is based on or crushing skill.  Therefore it makes way more sense for brawler skills/arts/items to buff crushing than it does for them to buff fists, slashing or piercing.</P> <P>You *want* +crushing, you want as much of it as you can get.</P> <P>If you have half a brain, that is.<BR></P>

[Oidan]

<P>So we have a new buff to fists but does not work as DW?</P> <P>Sorry I am in the learning stages.</P>

[MrYZF]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote: <blockquote> <hr>No, I wouldn't.  Since even if we're using cestii (slashing) or cestus (piercing) our to hit modifyer not to mention every other melee roll is based on or crushing skill.  Therefore it makes way more sense for brawler skills/arts/items to buff crushing than it does for them to buff fists, slashing or piercing.</blockquote> <p>You *want* +crushing, you want as much of it as you can get.</p> <p>If you have half a brain, that is.</p> <hr></blockquote> So if this is the case, then what is the sense in even giving us a fist skill?  Also could u show me where u find the information as far as : "</span><span> our to hit modifyer not to mention every other melee roll is based on or crushing skill" is concerned?  </span><div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MrYZF wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR>So if this is the case, then what is the sense in even giving us a fist skill?  Also could u show me where u find the information as far as : "</SPAN><SPAN> our to hit modifyer not to mention every other melee roll is based on or crushing skill" is concerned? </SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It was stated on the forums when they took away our ability to skill up slashing and piercing.<BR>

[TheSummoned]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MrYZF wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR>So if this is the case, then what is the sense in even giving us a fist skill?  Also could u show me where u find the information as far as : "</SPAN><SPAN> our to hit modifyer not to mention every other melee roll is based on or crushing skill" is concerned? </SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It was stated on the forums when they took away our ability to skill up slashing and piercing.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>...and a couple hundred times after that...

[ganjookie]

Im not sure I understand...........<div></div>boys havea peepee and girls have a what again? slashing or peircing skill?

[Redbed]

<DIV>If I understand it correctly the Fist skill's sole purpose is to limit the equipment we use to the appropriate level.  Your fist skill increases every level which allows them to regulate what weapons you cannot use at that level.  Understand?  It has nothing to do with your ability to hit or damage anything in of itself.   Thats all on Crushing and your attack score.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Disclaimer: Unless Im totally wrong in which case I dont know what its used for.</DIV>

[MrYZF]

<span><blockquote><hr>Redbed wrote:<div>If I understand it correctly the Fist skill's sole purpose is to limit the equipment we use to the appropriate level.  <u>Your fist skill increases every level which allows them to regulate what weapons you cannot use at that level.</u>  Understand?  It has nothing to do with your ability to hit or damage anything in of itself.   Thats all on Crushing and your attack score.</div> <div> </div> <div>Disclaimer: Unless Im totally wrong in which case I dont know what its used for.</div><hr></blockquote></span>Im not agreeing or disagreeing with you here, but seems to me they could just as easily do that with the crushing skill.  Since based off the information above, all our modifiers regardless of the wep we use is based on crushing. /shrug, maybe they plan to add something more into it later. Shidoshi Naguriai 60 Bruiser Arakiss 60 Fury Toxxulia <div></div>