DEVS, Devastation Fist: Bugged or Intended? please!

[Balmore]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>Bloodline merchants no longer offer this very nice Brawler combat art. It's gone from Alchemist books too.Please, bugged or intended?Thankies! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />[edit]: This combat art is no longer in the game for some reason. I hope that it's going to come back. /feedback may help in this case. Hidden stick? lol.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Balmore on <span class="date_text">10-11-2005</span><span class="time_text">02:53 PM</span></p><p><span class="time_text">[edit]: The combat art is back to Bloodline merchants, thanks dev Archonix! and '</span><a target="_blank" href="../view_profile?user.id=116654"><span>hayaikaze</span></a>' for posting on right forum. URL: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=64161</p><p>Message Edited by Balmore on <span class="date_text">10-13-2005</span><span class="time_text">05:35 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Balmore on <span class=date_text>10-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:36 PM</span>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>Balmore wrote:...It's gone from Alchemist books too.<div></div><hr></blockquote>It was never intended to be craftable in anyway, it's only meant to be available as a quest reward from the BC quest series.</span><div></div>

[Traigus]

No, it was always intended to be craftable. I just went and looked... still for sale on Crushbone to my bruiser.. I dunno about being craftable (don't have an alche in my guild). All the 35 bloodlines are intended to be buyable (at app II) at the tents if you have completed enough quests (about 1/2). The 2nd spell is on completion of all of them IIRC (corpsecrush? I think for bruisers. ahven't gotten it myself). They are also meant to be buyable (app III, app IV) from players.  No adept I + I don't think.  Never bothered to look. The sage Bloodline App IVs (for casters) are still in the books, I just asked a guildie. -T <div></div>

[Balmore]

Traigus, was it (Devistation FIst) still listed for you at merchant?So strange, lol! <div></div>

[Sanamien]

Scout, mage and priest bloodline spells can be made adept 3 also <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Traigus]

<div></div>Yeah it was... Embarrasing story.  I was there buying spells for my friends because I am the only one in guild that has finished the BL expansion past that point (actually up to last guy, who I  can't solo after the CC)... after I bought a whole bunch I noticed they were all no trade <span>:smileysurprised:</span>.  I had definitely bought a Dev fist for another brawler. This was on Crusbone. ---- Edit: on 10/8 or 10/9 (Friday afternoon) it was indeed there. Went and looked again 10/11: not there. My character still has it in his knowledge book and toolbar.  There are patch notes recently tweaking it.  I'm betting it is a bug. If they were going to remove it, it would be completely gone. ---- <span><blockquote><hr>Balmore wrote:Traigus, was it (Devistation FIst) still listed for you at merchant?So strange, lol! <div></div><hr></blockquote></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Traigus on <span class=date_text>10-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:10 PM</span>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<font color="#ff0033">No, it was always intended to be craftable.</font> I just went and looked... still for sale on Crushbone to my bruiser.. <font color="#ff0033">I dunno about being craftable</font> (don't have an alche in my guild). <div></div><hr></blockquote>Talk about contradictions.Devastation fist was NEVER intended to be crafted, it has never been craftable, it doesn't have upgrades. It's only available through the faction quests from the Bloodline Chronicles.</span><div></div>

[Traigus]

<span><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<font color="#ff0033">No, it was always intended to be craftable.</font> I just went and looked... still for sale on Crushbone to my bruiser.. <font color="#ff0033">I dunno about being craftable</font> (don't have an alche in my guild). <div></div><hr></blockquote>Talk about contradictions.Devastation fist was NEVER intended to be crafted, it has never been craftable, it doesn't have upgrades. It's only available through the faction quests from the Bloodline Chronicles.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>My mistake.  All my other chracters' BL spells were craftable, bad logic extension on my part. Sorry.  THEY were always meant to be craftable (I still can't find a quote in search that says Dev Fist was intended not to be craftable though). I don't see why it shouldn't be.. the rest of them can be made and scribed higher then app II without the expansion... letting alches make a scaling power shouldn't make any difference. -T </span><div></div>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<font color="#ff0033">No, it was always intended to be craftable.</font> I just went and looked... still for sale on Crushbone to my bruiser.. <font color="#ff0033">I dunno about being craftable</font> (don't have an alche in my guild). <div></div><hr></blockquote>Talk about contradictions.Devastation fist was NEVER intended to be crafted, it has never been craftable, it doesn't have upgrades. It's only available through the faction quests from the Bloodline Chronicles.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>My mistake.  All my other chracters' BL spells were craftable, bad logic extension on my part. Sorry.  THEY were always meant to be craftable (I still can't find a quote in search that says Dev Fist was intended not to be craftable though). I don't see why it shouldn't be.. the rest of them can be made and scribed higher then app II without the expansion... letting alches make a scaling power shouldn't make any difference. -T</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>It doesn't scale is why. There is only one version available, unlike the others from BC that can have app2, 3 ect.</span><div></div>

[Traigus]

<span><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Traigus wrote:<font color="#ff0033">No, it was always intended to be craftable.</font> I just went and looked... still for sale on Crushbone to my bruiser.. <font color="#ff0033">I dunno about being craftable</font> (don't have an alche in my guild). <div></div><hr></blockquote>Talk about contradictions.Devastation fist was NEVER intended to be crafted, it has never been craftable, it doesn't have upgrades. It's only available through the faction quests from the Bloodline Chronicles.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>My mistake.  All my other chracters' BL spells were craftable, bad logic extension on my part. Sorry.  THEY were always meant to be craftable (I still can't find a quote in search that says Dev Fist was intended not to be craftable though). I don't see why it shouldn't be.. the rest of them can be made and scribed higher then app II without the expansion... letting alches make a scaling power shouldn't make any difference. -T</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>It doesn't scale is why. There is only one version available, unlike the others from BC that can have app2, 3 ect.</span><div></div><hr></blockquote> Ahh. but the new DoF signature ancient spells don't scale (most of them?), and they are just gonna make them 1 scaling verson (drop and crafted will be the same) not Adept I and Adept III with the same stats as they are now (see dev tracker).  With this change in attitude by the devs, logic follows that Dev fist should be craftable now (argument seems to have gone the other way). -T </span><div></div>

[Geothe]

<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=64161" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=64161</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the spell is coming back.</DIV>

[Colossaltitan]

Hooray <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />!

[Colossaltitan]

<DIV> <DIV>/dance<BR><SPAN class=headline>Update Notes :<I> 10/13/2005 4:00 AM<BR> <P>*** Spells and Combat Arts *** </P> <P> </P> <P>-        Devastation Fist can once again be purchased from the appropriate faction vendors in Nektulos Forest.</P> <P>-The EverQuest II Team</P></I></SPAN></DIV></DIV>

[jordaann]

Do you have to have the faction to get this spell or can you buy it from someone that does have faction? ie is it tradable? <div></div>

[Turb]

Given the lngth of quests to get it, I would be surprised if it were tradeable.I did see Stone Deaf on the broker this weekend though (the L52 skill), for 40g.