Bare Fists? Speed? DPS? Damage Rating?

[Lorant]

Is there a spreadsheet or chart that shows relevant info for bare fists (no weapons) by level? So I can compare them to various DW items I may loot or get? <div></div>

[Gaige]

Bare fists suck in EQ2.  Slow one hand with no stat bonus that can't even hit a lot of named/epic mobs.

[ganjookie]

Barefists only usefull in Offensive stance....for the engulf proc 200-400dmg @ 40 <div></div>

[TheyLi]

<P>Bare fists can be a good option for bruisers, especially if you don't yet have fabled or legendary weapons. For instance, the level 35 offensive stance Fiery Fists adept III procs for 350-600 dmg bare fisted, and at 49 magmatic fists procs for like 600-1000 damage 10% of the time with bare fists, thats quite a lot of potential damage if you get lucky with procs, but as others mentioned, many ^^^ and epic mobs are immune to fists so you wont be using them in a group.</P>

[milg]

why go Barefisted when you can use the offence stance get a weaker proc but then use your imbued weapons  for More Stats  and a 2nd Proc?  to me as a bruiser is makes no sence not to use weapons <div></div>

[ganjookie]

wookie defense <div></div>

[industrock]

<DIV>At the moment, with the way fists work, i would never, ever use bare fists.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It still confuses me how SOE can justify making barefists non dual weild.</DIV>

[vorek]

<P>You are incorrect. Bare Fists ARE dual wield. They have been for some time.</P> <P>Get a DPS parser.</P> <P>Test it out with 2 proccing fists and Fire proc buff and then take them off and test it. </P> <P>Try it on say blue con no arrows up or down.</P> <P>Try it on 20 fights.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Barehanded you will outdamage your weapons by almost 150% average every 20 fights. It is a fact. The only thing you lose by not using weapons are the semi-useless stat buffs from weapons.</P>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>vorek wrote:<p>You are incorrect. Bare Fists ARE dual wield. They have been for some time.</p> <p>Get a DPS parser.</p> <p>Test it out with 2 proccing fists and Fire proc buff and then take them off and test it. </p> <p>Try it on say blue con no arrows up or down.</p> <p>Try it on 20 fights.</p> <p>Barehanded you will outdamage your weapons by almost 150% average every 20 fights. It is a fact. The only thing you lose by not using weapons are the semi-useless stat buffs from weapons.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>No-weapons setup has always been one-handed, they have never been duel-wield dispite what animations show. They are, as already pointed out above by Pathogenn and Gaige, useless in relevant encounters (Named/Epics).</span><div></div>

[Wargod1968]

When will the myths about bare fists ever die...

[Owa]

<DIV> I found this thread quite interesting and have just tried killing green ^^^ bighorn sheep in EF -  usually somewhat of a walk in the park for my 47 Bruiser.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> I could be doing it all wrong, but, erm, in a nutshell, bare fists get me killed whereas using weapons gets me XP. </DIV>

[topher]

if you have magmatic fists ad3 bare fists do more DPS vs t5 fabled dual wield weapons, i am still waitinf on my t6 legendary weapons, but ill parse them when i can

[Sa]

O hell nah. I know Ganjookie didnt pull out the wookie defense. You must acquit.