SOE, what's wrong with this picture?

[Selle]

<DIV>I am now confined to my room trying to practice my angry face....because lately, for some reason unknown to me.....monsters keep laughing when i approach them.  Any idea why?  Anyways, here is a picture of my mean face...what's so funny?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/355/337.jpg"></DIV>

[Leatherface77]

<DIV>LoL to action pinky!</DIV>

[Kidi]

I am in the same boat my friend, I feel your pain.before...<img src=http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/334/755.jpg>after...<img src=http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/353/333.jpg>

[Jamboman]

<DIV>*sobs into glass of beer* why soe??? WHYY????!!!!!</DIV> <DIV>pink??!!</DIV> <DIV>bloody women on the development team, that's the problem!!</DIV>

[Odissi]

<DIV>Wow they can't do anything right can they?</DIV>

[MadJa]

<DIV>As a female Dark elf Bruiser I have no problem with the new AQ graphic (actually like it better). But as all of you already know, the graphic on females is entirely different than the pink crap relegated to the males of our Thuggish species. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wholeheartedly sympathize.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>C'mon SOE have a heart!</DIV>

[dk]

Be happy you have some look other than the refuge pants look like I have. I seemed to be bugged somehow and I have checked, I show up that way to everyone else too. *raises fist and curses*

[Icr]

I dont get why everyone is complaining about the new armor. I liked the old armor better, but it dosnt matter. You wear the armor for what, 10 lvls then u grow out of em. Its not that big of a deal for SoE concidering all the other bugs in the game to make every bruiser happy about their AQ look. Its never that serious. Besides, no one is forceing you to wear it if you think its hidious.Scrubs38 Bruiser of Crushbone

[Drexel]

<DIV>Once you get your AQ6 Gi, that will fix it.  Its a known bug.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>S~</DIV>

[Dra]

<DIV><FONT color=#ffff00> The new armor looks terrible.  Hell, im embaressed to play my Bruiser now.   He looks like a nancy boy for gods sake!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Klithor]

<DIV>If I run up to you will you grant me 3 wishes? Wish I had the Aladdin picture of the Genie.</DIV>

[Parabola10]

<DIV>Man, those are horrible, thank god im ratonga, we look good in nething, lmfao</DIV>

[Zalxd]

<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=3>The old blue pajama bondage pants were much better. What sucks more for me in my circumstance was I didnt finish aq6 until after the patch so I never got to see my self in decent armor. The new armor makes us out to look like some kind of gypsie fan girl.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=3>Oh and <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=6837" target=_blank><SPAN>Kidian</SPAN></A>, If you had set "cloth simulation" it would not warp the straps that hang down. Also I'v played with you on innothule alot <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Zalxder on <SPAN class=date_text>01-11-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>06:17 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Zalxder on <span class=date_text>01-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:17 AM</span>

[Albus Vector]

<DIV>/Sniffle </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mods for teh lose?  Are we charged with making pink cool I dont know that im up for it...</DIV>

[D]

<DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer_gallery.vm?characterId=194384102" target=_blank><FONT color=#ffff00>What doesn't look good on a half elf?</FONT></A>  :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do feel sorry for ogres though.</DIV>

[littleman17]

<DIV>The only reason i could see for the change is to make the females look better, cause the do. but why in the blue frill did they give us a pink version of the monk armor. I mean give us our bondage pants and heman shirt back! This si bull [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] we are brawlers, not meant to be wearing tight leather jammies!</DIV>

[Madroxci]

<DIV>always thought the bruiser/monk armor made you guys look like a genie LOL class rocks but man that armor is horrible lol</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

I loved the old armor, it was my favorite gear in the game. Why they changed it instead of fixing and adjusting the strap and whatever needed to be done, is beyond me. This is the worst possible change, why they wasted time ruining bruisers in beyond me. Oh and tiger form versus what looks like a bunch of crazed beavers crapped on us is a bit of a letdown too. Who wants to look like crap, why not gorilla form or drake form,s omething fierce. Ah well, just joined a guild so maybe that will stop me from quitting, but I really wish theyd fix it back. D*mn I miss that armor.

[Kulpr]

I don't know whether i should cry or just quit the game. Seeing this change really makes me hard pressed to believe there are any good changes coming to the game. Whoever came up with this idea and approved it is either blind or [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]. Last time i checked i wasn't playing SWG as the entertainer class....

[kass]

<DIV>I hated the old MC Hammer outfit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The new pink one sucks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Buy crafted armor and focus on exp groups instead of AQ groups and you will be at a higher level quicker with $$ to boot when you sell off your crafted gear.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I want the armor that Gage has because it looks awesome.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The biggest problem with the "look" of this game was in the armor tint choice at creation.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If I wanted my crafted armor to be orange on my red troll I would have chosen an orange armor tint.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I chose black as all of my armor has been black since we could tint for the first time in EQ1.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Both the old and the new AQ armor sucks for look.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Easy fix? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Make the tint work correctly.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kassel</DIV>

[Kidi]

Drexell2,I have AQ6 completed and it still the pink, what bug are you referring

[Drexel]

<DIV>I was anawerign dkqc's post up top.   There is a bug that will not show the pants graphic unless you have the chest peice as well.   Once you get the chest peice also, no matter what legs you upgrade too, if the chest is still equipped, the legs still look like AQ armor.   The pink isn't the bug....unfortunately.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>S~</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

Still no response, ive sent feedback, bug reports all of it, posts, rants, not a peep out of SOE. WORK ON YOUR PR!

[Moorgard]

<DIV>The original graphic used for the bruiser quest armor had some issues that didn't get fixed before launch. While the basic concept of that suit was nice, it was buggy and needed to be replaced.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We decided to use a variant of the monk outfit instead, so after discussing it we decided to tint the outfit blood red. Only problem is, tints can depend a lot on individual gamma settings, monitor types, etc., so what looked blood red on our designer's screen looks pink to a lot of players. Oops! :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We've played around with the tints some more and will be changing the armor to use a dark brown tint instead. This will make the armor range from lighter brown on systems with the gamma cranked up to dark brown on darker monitors. I personally think it gives the armor a leathery look that's kind of cool.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I went and poked our items gurus about it today, so the change should be going in soon. Enjoy your pink armor while you can. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Maelwy]

<DIV>YAY!  just what we needed!  MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME!  /cheer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Gaige]

<DIV>If your desire is to lvl by the tier 3 (20 to 30) crafted pristine armor and grind, then sell your armor off to the guys below you.  The AQ takes forever unless you have a static or good guild group and its worthless past 33 and attuned so you can't sell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Plus... its pink ;p</DIV>

[Riis bal-Tann]

LOL, Did I just see them say they were changing something to brown!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />RbT

[Centurion]

<DIV>YAY! No longer will I be the pink panther!</DIV>

[Miyu-Lega]

<blockquote><hr>Moorgard wrote:<DIV>The original graphic used for the bruiser quest armor had some issues that didn't get fixed before launch. While the basic concept of that suit was nice, it was buggy and needed to be replaced.</DIV><DIV></blockquote>Moorgard, As you are aware, character differentiation is a huge issue amongst players, and one of the things we cherished the most is having a unique looking armor. While I doubt you would find many, if any, brusiers to say our old armor was fine as is, the cheap way out of copying the monk armor to our class has been extreamly dissapointing. The men liked the fierce look, and the women liked the sexy edge while maintaining a darker tone. Is it really too much to ask to make your players happy to spend some time to fix the old armor instead of sweep it under the rug? Many brusiers do not like the new armor, many non brusiers comment on it as well, and monks feel even less unique than before due to it. Please take the time to fix our old armor. In a world where everybody looks like everybody else, it means that much more to us, even past level 30.

[LordMun]

<DIV>Think old school UO dye tubs.  'Nuff said.</DIV>

[aeio]

<blockquote><hr>Maelwys1 wrote:<DIV>YAY! just what we needed! MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME! /cheer</DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>Yay! Just what we need is more people who complain about everything, and I do mean everything, regardless of what they do!

[Oidan]

<DIV>Why not just put back in the original set? It was quite unique, something that EQ2 has very little of. Everyone pretty much looks the same now. I kept my set but destroyed it all when I saw the change. The new armor set regardless of being pink is pretty flambuoyant to say the least. I would rather be nakid than wear it.</DIV>

[AratornCalahn]

<DIV>It was red and cool on my comp <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brown... ill be sure to make jokes to every bruiser I see <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*ahem*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"I see you washed the blood out of your suit, try not to get hit next time"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"You left some of it clean mate...."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"You look like a kodiak bear..."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>etc <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kulpr]

Well i'm glad to hear they are at least addressing the color... if I didn't look like a gypsy/dancer would be even better.

[Kulpr]

Just played with my contrast/brightness and preset color adjustments on my monitor. Couldn't get armor to look red without going into video card color options and stupidly tweaking them.

[Dimgroth]

*SCREAMS AS HE GOES INSANE* WHY MORE BROWN! WHY AN UGLY COLOR, ONE SAY AS UGLY AS..PINK! PINK, BROWN! PINk!GAHHH!@!! *Runs off tearing his hair out in tufts*And its..still...qenyosian monk flamboyant...[Removed for Content]...*chokes in anger*<p>Message Edited by Dimgroth on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:47 AM</span>

[Alteri_1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <DIV>The original graphic used for the bruiser quest armor had some issues that didn't get fixed before launch. While the basic concept of that suit was nice, it was buggy and needed to be replaced.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Buggy?  Didn't get fixed before launch?  Nooo... <BR>

[Alteri_1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> aeiouy wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maelwys1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>YAY! just what we needed! MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME! /cheer</DIV> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Yay! Just what we need is more people who complain about everything, and I do mean everything, regardless of what they do!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> And you classify what you're doing here as what, exactly?  :smileyindifferent:

[Dra]

<DIV>Changing the color is great but that only deals with half the issue.  Just look at the pics.  The look as a whole is just terrible.  Like many said before, my character looks like he  granting  3 wishes.   I say change it back to the old way and stop the nancy boying of the Bruiser...</DIV>

[Marty78]

<DIV>1. What's wrong with the color pink? It doesn't even look like pink to me more like a lighter red color.</DIV> <DIV>2. The screenshots I've seen here are from people using LOW graphics settings. It sure looks better if you play on the higher graphics settings.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Marty78 on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:59 AM</span>

[Tag]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <DIV>The original graphic used for the bruiser quest armor had some issues that didn't get fixed before launch. While the basic concept of that suit was nice, it was buggy and needed to be replaced.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We decided to use a variant of the monk outfit instead, so after discussing it we decided to tint the outfit blood red. Only problem is, tints can depend a lot on individual gamma settings, monitor types, etc., so what looked blood red on our designer's screen looks pink to a lot of players. Oops! :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We've played around with the tints some more and will be changing the armor to use a dark brown tint instead. This will make the armor range from lighter brown on systems with the gamma cranked up to dark brown on darker monitors. I personally think it gives the armor a leathery look that's kind of cool.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I went and poked our items gurus about it today, so the change should be going in soon. Enjoy your pink armor while you can. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Sorry but if it was a gamma or other setting it would affect all the colors on the screen. You can clearly see true red colors on the hotbars.

[GrimStone]

<DIV>My question is...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you can get the red, undoubtably "BLOOD RED" on the Freeport Militia Armor....  Then why can't you get it right on other armors?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Seems like this statement about gamma, and color settings is a cop-out.  There are plenty of exambple in the game of RED.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The brawler armor is definately NOT red.</DIV>

[Nahlis]

<DIV>Would rather see them fix it so that it really is 'blood red' as intended or just go with basic black, the opposite of Monks white.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, be that as it may, thanks for the information Moorguard.  Whatever you all decide to do with it, I'm sure we'll all be grateful to get out of the pink!  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(Almost a pity though... my Brawler isn't ready for AQ's yet and I was morbidly curious what a bright green Troll would look like in pink armor. heh)</DIV>

[benisbor]

<DIV>You just got a direct response from a dev. Be happy <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[crit]

Hi all, Time for my two pennies...I loved the old armor. Sure it made my Male Black Furred Kerra look like some strange leather wearing bondage freak, but it was truly unique in a game where all the armors begin to look a LOT alike. I'm color-blind. So much so, that the fact the armor is pink didn't immediately register in my mind. What I saw first was the design of the new armor made me look like some sort of Eunich Hareem guard or a make version of a genie from "I Dream of Jennie". I LOATHE the new armor design and color. I've been razzed by players left and right about not just the color, but the design. We shouldn't be continually asked "Did you get a nice bottle to go with that outfit?" and "How much for a lap dance, Sweetie?". We're the class thats supposed to smash in faces and break kneecaps. You've destroyed the image of the class in one massive bout of laziness. You couldn't fix video issues with first armor, so you gave us and monks same armor look. You can't be bothered to give us new armor so you're just going to change the color values? Come on people, you have a whole team of developers working at least 4 hours a day one this game don't you? How can you let little things like this keep ruining the game? Don't give me the Dev's computer color settings lame excuse. My vid card is an NVidia and you "claim" this game was designed for it, and even gamma settings shouldn't turn red into pink. Red requires a lot of white added to turn pink. Not just more light on the subject, and the design looks about as thuggish as a raver outfit on a Mafia Hitman. Give us our old armor back unfixed if you have to...or give us something we can wear in the commonlands without drawing unsavory comments about our sexual orientations.Thank you,Numa - Lucan De'Lere Server

[Rann]

<DIV>Moorgard, Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Question though, why use a tinting method? Why not just replace the texture with one that is blood red and use tint to highlight it? Trying to change the main color of a white based texture with tints never produces good results. I really wish you guys reconsider changing it to brown, Freeport has enough tan->brown through out it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--Rannoc</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[benisbor]

<DIV>I think the real question is when will Sony wake the heck up and give us something better for fun abilities. They must know that every single player on every server is laughing at these abilities. </DIV>

[Crazyboard]

<DIV>Why don't you guys just give a range of colors players can choose from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Give the players that spend the time doing AQ's the option of maybe two or three styles and maybe five or six colors?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Crazyboarder on <span class=date_text>01-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:44 AM</span>

[Kaff]

<blockquote><hr>Miyu-Legacy wrote:<blockquote><hr>Moorgard wrote:<DIV>The original graphic used for the bruiser quest armor had some issues that didn't get fixed before launch. While the basic concept of that suit was nice, it was buggy and needed to be replaced.</DIV><DIV></blockquote>Moorgard, As you are aware, character differentiation is a huge issue amongst players, and one of the things we cherished the most is having a unique looking armor. While I doubt you would find many, if any, brusiers to say our old armor was fine as is, the cheap way out of copying the monk armor to our class has been extreamly dissapointing. The men liked the fierce look, and the women liked the sexy edge while maintaining a darker tone. Is it really too much to ask to make your players happy to spend some time to fix the old armor instead of sweep it under the rug? Many brusiers do not like the new armor, many non brusiers comment on it as well, and monks feel even less unique than before due to it. Please take the time to fix our old armor. In a world where everybody looks like everybody else, it means that much more to us, even past level 30.<hr></blockquote>Hi. Can you go into a store and purchase armor with the same texture as your new armor? No, I didn't think so. So you're still unique. Anybody who wants to look like the scout texture can walk into a store and buy storebought chain. Not to mention, all 4 of the scout armors look identical (including coloration) per city. So don't expect this argument to go far, the fact remains that there are exactly two classes with even the opportunity to get this armor texture (and it can't be bought), and the coloration is different between them. Thus, it's still the most unique armor in the game. If they go through and texture the 8 different scout armor quests differently and the 6 different plate AQ textures differently, then you can come back and ask for a unique texture and have any kind of weight to your argument.I don't expect to be liked for pointing this out, but se la vie.One final note: all the pink-viewers are getting what they deserve, hehe. Cranking gamma up to see is for wimps. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Xcomdefen]

Please just give us back the old and totaly "bruiser"(and not to mention a classic look)armor, it was my favorite in the game.

[Dzhoka]

<DIV>Brown????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Come on, you guys can do better than this.</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

My god..the old bruiser gear, to not allow us to wear it..it must be a great threat to the game's ability to run! but whats this, a npc taunting the hell out of me? Why cant we wear it too, it was the best..<IMG src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Lord_Balthaazar/EQ2_000004.jpg">

[Ki-a]

<DIV>Female bruiser here - just wanted to add my support for the original AQ armor. I dislike the monk uniform they colored for us and know I will despise it moreso if what I hear is correct and they make it brown :smileysad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please listen to your players and return us to the armor we all enjoyed. I realise people will say, just wait until after 30 and you'll change to new armor anyway, but the old bruiser AQ armor would have been something I'd have kept and wore in town etc to distinguish myself from other classes. Anyway, here's to hoping the little bruiser community's voice can be heard :smileymad:</DIV>

[Schnaup]

<DIV>I tend to agree with <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=34098" target=_blank><SPAN>Ki-ana</SPAN></A>, I saved my old Bruiser armour because it looked good, even if it WAS pixelated. I have far out-grown it, but yet it remains in my bank in a vain hope that it will return to it's former glory. Monk armour is un-acceptable, in ANY color. (Much less pink or gawd-awful brown.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The funny thing is, I do not remember seeing anyone really complaining about the old version in ANY degree that we are voicing contempt for the new version. Hopefully somone will straighten it out for us.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"I am NOT an 'evil' monk.</DIV> <DIV>I do not practice Katas religiously, nor do I respect disipline.</DIV> <DIV>I do not meditate, carry pails of water uphills, or bow to my master.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freeport has no Dojo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What Freeport DOES have is plenty of bars.</DIV> <DIV>Street fights are a common place.</DIV> <DIV>It has ruffians, dark characters, and some of the most ruthless cutthroats you will ever see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And I beat ALL thier faces in until they learn respect for the Overlord and myself.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sometimes it takes a while.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have plenty of time. "</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Schnaupps</DIV><p>Message Edited by Schnaupps on <span class=date_text>01-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:51 PM</span>

[kakar]

<DIV>they need to let us use dyes, it only took like 3 or 4 years for dyes to be put in eq1 so lets just wait till 2009!</DIV>

[Kali]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maelwys1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>YAY!  just what we needed!  MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME!  /cheer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> This is definately a case of 'the grass is always greener' syndrome.

[Tseram]

So why not just have some sort of tint standardization tool? Basically throw up some colors on the screen, say this is RED, this is BLUE, this is YELLOW, etc. and have the user match their tint correctly. Then you could develop all the colored pieces you want and they will always look as intended.

[Dimgroth]

exactly, the bruiser gear used to be something I would wear in town till the end of my days, because it was fitting, it was rp gear and I loved it. Put it back, fix it if you want, but if it doesnt harm anything just leave it as is for now (or rather as WAS, im talking about the old bruiser gear here)

[Kulpr]

the tint is a bunch of BS. I mean the mage fire spells look red things that are supposed to look red are red. My outifit on the other hand is pink.

[Xcomdefen]

I had plans to wear the bruiser strap armor long into my days when I no longer used it for grinding, for the sheer tough and unique factor.I did some thinking and this is the only armor graphic I would consider reequiping...keeping my fingers-crossed.<p>Message Edited by Xcomdefense on <span class=date_text>01-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:42 PM</span>

[Immhote]

Hey all,A bruise variesin colors but pretty much 'black and blue' as in 'I'll beat you 'black and blue'. Thanks for changing pink but brown ? My first thought of a bruiseR is 'black and blue' NOT pink or MORE brown. My level 15 shaman equipped a 2hb and looked like my 20 bruiser did. Variety is the spice blah blah blah. The original outfit had some probs but it was grey, black and had some originality at least. It was more the direction of bruiser. Why is everything shades of brown - does that look best with some lighting or shadows ? Oh even IF you fixed the color of the armor it is just cheesey to use monk armor re-colored. That is like Mortal Kombat needed another character but had limited room so we have Sub-zero (blue) and Scorpion (yellow) but otherwise identical. LOL! Come on guys and gals(?) don't freak out if some didn't dig your first attempt at the armor look don't give up and stick us a re-colored version of someone elses. Maybe your next idea will have other classes griping about there looks. I mean monks already get tiger-form and we get 'poo plaster' at least make our armor nice looking. =)

[Kaitar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maelwys1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>YAY!  just what we needed!  MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME!  /cheer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> :smileyindifferent: agreed

[Dimgroth]

I agree one hundred percent Immohotepp, Ive been trying to get my views and the majority of the bruisers views to SOE but it goes in one ear and out the other, I wouldnt be suprised if Moorgard was sitting there watching a video sent to SOE by one of the more avid bruiser fans pleading for the changes to be made to make it all better and it being like talking to Charlie Browns parents, "Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah.." they really need to work on listening to the paying customer, whos only trying to make their class enjoyable.

[Meganne]

<DIV>Same problem sorry for my english i'm french and speaking english like a spanish cow</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maelle before patch</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://img90.exs.cx/img90/4218/maelleavantmcdo9sg.jpg" target=_blank>http://img90.exs.cx/img90/4218/maelleavantmcdo9sg.jpg</A></DIV> <DIV>Maelle after patch</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://kazander.free.fr/pics/EQ2/new_maelle1.jpg" target=_blank>http://kazander.free.fr/pics/EQ2/new_maelle1.jpg</A></DIV> <DIV>bouhouh snif :'(</DIV> <DIV>:smileysad::smileysad::smileysad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(serveur Storms !)<BR></DIV><p>Message Edited by Meganne on <span class=date_text>01-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:47 AM</span>

[PaulRyle]

I dont' usually post on forums, infact this is my first ever on EQ2. However SOE are listening and they are paying attention even if by their lack of open response people think otherwise. So it's vital for all Bruisers to post their distain for the current quest armour in whatever shade of pink or brown it takes, I'm not talking about flaming SOE here just a sensible viewpoint on what their players (a.k.a their customers) want for their money each month).There's little point in repeating what's already been said about the current AQ armour. I was so looking forward to getting the set and it changed by the time I'd got the second part, oh well ! However that said at least it HAS a unique look, even if it does need changing. I can't even tell most of the time when most of my guild are wearing their AQ armour it looks so much like every other set of armour they wear.Message to SOE: I think most people here think that the Bruiser Class is the best in the game. However Asthetically speaking it lags for and away behind other classes. We would like:1. Our old armour back. 2. Our "fun" spells seriously re-worked since they are not "fun" they are a "waste of silvers".Other than that keep up the good work.------------------------------------------------Stave (25th Bruiser)RunnyeyeWhoooooo Stave is soooo good luckin I just gotta stop and hug myself.------------------------------------------------

[VonStein]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kaliea wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maelwys1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>YAY!  just what we needed!  MORE BROWN TINTS IN THE GAME!  /cheer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> This is definately a case of 'the grass is always greener' syndrome.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> NO... in this case its the Grass is always...browner......

[Dimgroth]

why they insist on making this game bland as hell is beyond me.

[Jamboman]

<DIV>hehe well thank you for giving me a brown AQ suit SOE. it's 100% better than pink. then agian pink was so [Removed for Content] dumb that it was in the minus figuers for cool. so u still got a long way. here's a suggestion soe. FIX THE OLD ARMOUR AND GIVE IT BACK!</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

amen.

[shelobe77]

<DIV>I remember seeing the AQ bruiser armor and couldn't wait to finish, espcially for the chest piece.  I finally got it and was so proud to run around in my AQs.  I had it bout a week before the big patch.  The patch came, read that they changed bruiser AQ armor and really didn't think much of it.  Then I log in.  I was shocked to see what I was wearing.  I rubbed my eyes, thinking maybe I was having an acid flashback.  Nope, that ugly god-awful pink pos was still there.  I am a female in RL playing a male iksar bruiser and HATE the pink/brownmonk look of the new one.  I agreed with about everybody else in this thread when it comes to bringing back the old AQ.  Even with the buggy pants of the old AQ, it still looked 10000000 times better then what we have now.  I am desperatly trying to get enough money so I can finally be done with that outfit.</DIV>

[VonStein]

<DIV>LOL...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just figured it out....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Its [Removed for Content] Eye for the Bruiser Guy.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/listp on</DIV> <DIV>Brown... its the new pink.....</DIV> <DIV>/lisp off</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

How about it SOE? A poll on loging in to recieve old bruiser gear back, dont even have to fix it..right away.You can fix it and by fix I mean not changing it to pink or brown eathentone flamboyant armor from hell qeynosian knock off. I mean adjusting resolution on straps and that sort of thing, you have it on npcs still so just give it back, please.

[xfbishop]

<DIV>after i saw my new armor today, it finally made my decision for me.... took me about 2 minutes to go from brown</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>to this</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img159.exs.cx/img159/2548/eq20000393kh.jpg"></DIV>

[Sla]

<DIV>The color doesn't bother me so much as the whole S&M [Removed for Content] outfit meets pro wrestler deal. They could do better.</DIV>

[Ki-a]

<DIV>Nice armor, Namin. Might consider buying some if I find out what it's called.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Still want the original AQ for my friday night bar brawls though :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Oidan]

<DIV>Etched Armor then to Engraved which are both Light Armor.</DIV>

[Dimgroth]

if for some of the hotopics happening today they had a poll asking several questions they could get the gist of what the community thinks on issues and use it accordingly. Perhaps upon loging in it will say "please take the time to fill out this survey" and if there's a question that you dont know what theyre talking about have the option of "I dont know."

[Immhote]

I'll try once more to explain why I think the aq for bruisers should be changed color and prefer fixed oldstyle. I read comments and agree 'in a few levels you won't care because you'll have better'. /agree but let me try to compare: At age 16 in US you want a car/vehicle most but to drive around 2nd. Most people actually see it as a hassle or HATE it by low 30s or so. It is kind of like your first milestone in life though. In EQ2 so far I got off newbie island and quested/fought some but this is my first milestone in this game and its bland/lame. If I have to drive a POS as my first car - at least I hope it's in good shape or looks good for what it is; otherwise, it is a huge let down! Yay I got my licensce finally and all I can drive is this pile of rust that barely passes inspection. I agree in a few levels I will have moved on but my first milestone is a disappointment. All I can hope that there is better looking/stat wear available soon. Please fix the bruisers old armor and help us be PROUD that we did all our armor quests with a good color[dk blues/black/grey etc] and some nice textures NOT plain brown with no texture that has way less detail than the brown newbie armor we had on before we got our AQ armor. I hope this makes sense it is 4:30am and seems reasonable now (hehehe)

[Dimgroth]

Soe, please, a response? It wouldnt take much to just tell us youll change it back or that you dont care that everyone wants the old armor back, just something from you would be nice.