what trainings to take?

[Bruceleo]

One of the skills i am going to train is bruising spirit..not sure how much it will add though (does it get upgrade later?)what abilities would you choose for other tiers? Considering most spells get upgrades later on<p>Message Edited by Bruceleo on <span class=date_text>01-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:07 AM</span>

[IkkyScar]

<DIV>They were all pretty worthless except the level 40 one for me.  (I'm level 50).  The passives are nice of course.  The level 40 skill I chose is an upgrade to rousing cry, and it also adds haste.  3 min buff for entire group, hastes, gives +12 to all melee skills (crushing/slashing/piercing) and adds like 20 attack rating or so.  The main thing about it is the haste.  Very nice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guber--50 Bruiser</DIV> <DIV>Crushbone</DIV>

[Bruceleo]

too bad they don't have a training for bruising spirit.... at last i chose boxing stance which is more useful that the other ones

[D]

<DIV>The level 10 brawler skill that replaces your first taunt with a shout is very nice. Low power and fast cast time. </DIV>

[JonnyBlaaze]

<DIV><FONT size=3>Grom's Fierce Uppercut changed my hit from 140-150 (grapple) to about 190-200</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>I heard other people say the opposite</FONT></DIV>

[Bruceleo]

isn't uppercut an upgrade to bruising strike? since its a training u get at lv 20i'd imagine grapple is still better than uppercut

[ClobberSaurus]

<blockquote><hr>Dvt wrote:<DIV>The level 10 brawler skill that replaces your first taunt with a shout is very nice. Low power and fast cast time. </DIV><hr></blockquote>FWIW, Shout is not a straight up replacement for taunt. Shout is multi-target and on a different timer than single target Taunt. Taunting Slap in the high teens seemt to be the replacement for Taunt.

[Oidan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fuhkit wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT size=3>Grom's Fierce Uppercut changed my hit from 140-150 (grapple) to about 190-200</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>I heard other people say the opposite</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Mine is the opposite except at lvl 34 I am hitting just below 300 at times and I believe the max I have hit with Grom's was in the 220's. I forget what my str was at.

[Ashdaren]

<DIV>Could someone post more info about the advanced Jeer training ability ( recast time, shared timer, duration of the fear effect)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I m also interested in the Zero mana taunt, is it any good?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you for the informations, as a french player, I am still unable to try any of these <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>