If Monk Gets TigerForm at 40,then does Bruiser get a form, or what form should they get ?

[Quinlan]

Hi All, IM a Brawler level 14 Dark Elf and Noticed that at 40 Monk gets a Tiger Form . Then Bruiser's Should get a Animal Form at 40 as well, or it would be Unfair ... Also if Bruisers dont get a Animal form then What Form Would You Want for Bruisers ? Thanks and I Appreciate what You all think about this Issue. Tanor level 14 Dark Elf Brawler , soon to be Bruiser.

[Dasi]

<DIV>yes an animal form would be great... but this is what you have to look forward to</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=869" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=869</A></DIV> <DIV>:smileymad:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Dasiem on <span class=date_text>12-16-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:30 AM</span>

[Hiso]

<DIV>Look under the thread called Wooden Skin pictures.. that is what we get at 40</DIV>

[Kwonryu_DragonFi]

<DIV>Maybe it would be better if the wooden skin had some spikes and thorns as well, granting the bruiser a damage shield (5-10 dmg every time they hit the bruiser).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Zana]

<blockquote><hr>Kwonryu_DragonFist wrote:<DIV>Maybe it would be better if the wooden skin had some spikes and thorns as well, granting the bruiser a damage shield (5-10 dmg every time they hit the bruiser).</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>Well, it is a fun spell, so they don't do damage or offer any real advantage in battle.. purely fun. However, I do think the Bruiser Level 40 fun spell should be something along the lines of a panther or maybe even a blood hound. The Wooden Skin really isn't fitting and to make it fair to Bruisers, they should get an animal form just as Monks do.

[Dovifat]

<blockquote><hr>Zanarn wrote:<blockquote><hr>Kwonryu_DragonFist wrote:<DIV>Maybe it would be better if the wooden skin had some spikes and thorns as well, granting the bruiser a damage shield (5-10 dmg every time they hit the bruiser).</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><hr></blockquote>Well, it is a fun spell, so they don't do damage or offer any real advantage in battle.. purely fun. However, I do think the Bruiser Level 40 fun spell should be something along the lines of a panther or maybe even a blood hound. The Wooden Skin really isn't fitting and to make it fair to Bruisers, they should get an animal form just as Monks do.<hr></blockquote>Well i dont know - we are thugs, i somehow fail to see the relation to animal forms. I actually find the basic idea of the "skin" line appealing, it fits the class' theme. The implementation however is downright insulting.

[Moski]

<DIV>i agree that a animal form would not fit to a bruiser.</DIV> <DIV>the skin styles are a good idea fot our bachround but the graphics are horrible so far.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ih should look more like bark or wood and not like mud slime or something (like it looks right now)</DIV>

[Manuel]

<DIV>[Removed for Content] please no animal forms...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Drunken Joe, infamous street fighter, pit thug and... shapeshifter?! Woot?? Sorry sounds a bit off-theme.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The general concept behind pooden-skin is good, but needs some rework. Spiky bits sounds good, although they should be purely cosmetical. I would rather see the main texture of our skin REPLACED by woodenish stuff, but please no poolike coating. its embarasing actually. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And instead of the stupid dreadnought kata, give us a "sucker punch" to anoy fellow players who give their back to us (brawler quest comes to mind) , like the brigand ability but with a twist or just something to "[Removed for Content]" other players... right now its so stupid... Some guys can make me bow to them, other can make me feel some pain, others can knock me down, transform me into a frog... and im the "intimidator" class here? Cmon!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I know some love is comin... check the Test server updates... AQ changed!! WOOOhOO</DIV>

[Pauleh]

<DIV>just let us burst into flames for a fun spell</DIV>

[psubull]

<DIV>Let us turn into a demon.  That would rule.  Or maybe make our fists and feet erupt in flames.  Not the entire body, just the fist n feet, cause wizards get the entire-body-in-flames fluff </DIV>

[Kwonryu_DragonFi]

<DIV>Maybe if the skin instead turned to metal or granite?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That would look better methinks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Both intimidating and a sturdy look.</DIV>

[TheSnoo]

<DIV>Give us a Lvl40 fun spell that turns us into Lil'Jon with theme music as we stomp monster butt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>WHAT?!!...YEAH!?...Whatchoo Gone Do?!...Shooo</DIV>

[justfr]

<DIV>I'd like the ability to look like whatever u have targeted for 30 secs, including mimicing there moves if in battle. </DIV>

[Kwonryu_DragonFi]

<DIV>Mimicing Life leeches? Clay crawlers? Boils? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Jow]

<DIV>We should get to summon a halfling and throw him.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What bruiser bar fight is complete without midget tossing?</DIV>

[Starki]

<DIV>Rottweiler</DIV>

[DrrakoXhaoXi]

<DIV>HA ha ha ha ha that sucks for you guys just looked at picture.</DIV>

[justfr]

<DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rotti would be the best animal form, a drooling snarling rotti </DIV>

[Ri]

<DIV>I vote for a sucker punch fun spell.  That was why I chose the Brawler class over the other two when doing my L10 quest.  I figured how much fun could this class be if I just went around and beat the crap out of people!</DIV>

[Snip]

<DIV>Lol the skin form atm looks laughable imo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Great idea, poor implementation.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Metal would be more fitting yer. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or giving us wolverine-stylée claws out of our hands would be coool. That and blood-shot eyes and fang style teeth <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Oh ok I'm getting carried away now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tiger form, imo, is spot on for monks. We need something which really epitomises our brute strength.</DIV>

[Mum]

minotaur form! nothing says beat down like a big hulking minotaur...and am I the only one who cant see the pics?

[TheSnoo]

<DIV>Actually, Minotaur form would own for Bruisers. I agree</DIV>

[rivethead]

I think Bruisers should get a stone form. The model that looks like a bunch of boulders held together by green energy. That would be appropriate I think... I've got a level 12 ratonga bruiser that might just run the betrayal quest.

[Sheperd]

<DIV>Maybe we should just look like a giant bruise, or be able to make another players character look bruised, say after the sucker punch lol.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sheperd_b on <span class=date_text>12-21-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:57 PM</span>

[Eha]

Yeah like I want to turn into a freakin animal! I am a human animal! Go ahead [Removed for Content] me off!

[ganjookie]

<blockquote><hr>Manueles wrote:<DIV>[Removed for Content] please no animal forms...</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Drunken Joe, infamous street fighter, pit thug and... shapeshifter?! Woot?? Sorry sounds a bit off-theme.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>The general concept behind pooden-skin is good, but needs some rework. Spiky bits sounds good, although they should be purely cosmetical. I would rather see the main texture of our skin REPLACED by woodenish stuff, but please no poolike coating. its embarasing actually. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>And instead of the stupid dreadnought kata, give us a "sucker punch" to anoy fellow players who give their back to us (brawler quest comes to mind) , like the brigand ability but with a twist or just something to "[Removed for Content]" other players... right now its so stupid... Some guys can make me bow to them, other can make me feel some pain, others can knock me down, transform me into a frog... and im the "intimidator" class here? Cmon!</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I know some love is comin... check the Test server updates... AQ changed!! WOOOhOO</DIV><hr></blockquote>Sucker punch would be Fipping sick, espcially if it caused a knockdown with no dmg on the target, so we could spam away in a bar.

[Eha]

I have to agree a sucker punch w/ knockdown would be sweet!

[Mum]

actually our poo look at 40 is the exact some graphic as the spell woodenskin or somthing like that, the druid cast it on you and braches grow out of your skin, but if you look past that you can see the messy brown stuff graphic covering your skin for a few seconds...so im gussing / praying that this is just temporary look that we get, and they make our own particle effect one day ...-Tamaran 35 Iksar Bruiser - AB

[ganjookie]

Mm great poo with branches....Im sure Mr Hanky is turning over in his grave cause of this. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ringari]

skin like wood ? skin like iron ??? Do bruiser have something to have with druids ?I like the idea of glowing eyes and claws ...Or I would see white eyes with a glowing strange aura as if you were possessed by the spirit of blood.Or why not a very cool* unique set of cloth... you keep the stats of your gear but you look like as if you wear something else...(* and by cool i don't mean another earthy colored cloth : the idea is that it should show : inc bad guy)

[benisbor]

<DIV>This thread is pointless. SOE won't be changing anything. </DIV>

[Brashn]

<blockquote><hr>benisbored wrote:<DIV>This thread is pointless. SOE won't be changing anything. </DIV><hr></blockquote>They changed the 20 quest armor on test after numerous complaints. Why not this too?

[Ringari]

Pointless or not I like to share my point of view.

[JonnyBlaaze]

<DIV>It really looks like no thought went into this at all. The ideas they came up with for the 20,40, 50 fun form changes are a joke. Why the hell couldnt we get atleast 1 cool looking thing out of the 3? [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot], ive seen beavers clerics running around... why cant we have bruisers that change into taurus/bull form, or have enourmous claws grow from our hands, or even some powerfull looking elemental type form. [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] my little 12 year old cousin couldve come up with some better ideas then what was given.</DIV>

[kakar]

<DIV> <DIV>yea this really sucks.  skins have nothing to do with bruisers. we are not pansy druids and we dont cast skins.  turn us into a bear or something ffs.  our dreadnaught crappa spell looks completely [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] compared to the monk one.  other classes get cool particles and turn into animals and we get flail our arms like [Removed for Content] and finish it off with a balerina move.  gg soe looks like bruisers are the last minute class or something.  also i wish we had a buff that gave us like 200-400ac and no hp drain rather than that crap bruising spirit, then we might actually be able to solo 2up greens past 20..</DIV></DIV>

[Sabin the Gre]

<DIV>OK, here's  a suggestion.  What are bruiser's?  Big, Mean, Thugs that punch things and smash them.  So we should get.... <FONT color=#66ff66>FORM OF THE RAMPAGING GORILLA</FONT>!  They're big, they're mean, they can punch, they can grapple.  Go watch a clip from Congo and tell me it wouldn't be perfect.  I sure as hell wouldn't mind running around and smashing things ape style.  However, we should get to keep wearing our helm and armor.  That would look insanely cool.  </DIV>

[Jow]

<DIV>Its not even the fact that SOE made a complete [Removed for Content] out of the bruiser class that makes me upset. Its moreso the fact that they took the [Removed for Content] they created and then rolled it in some sequins and tried to convince us its pretty.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Jowaa on <span class=date_text>01-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:43 PM</span>

[kakar]

<DIV>they should make the metal skin at least look like metal mario from smash brothers</DIV>

[benisbor]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Brashnir wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> benisbored wrote:<BR> <DIV>This thread is pointless. SOE won't be changing anything. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>They changed the 20 quest armor on test after numerous complaints. Why not this too?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>You are correct, actually. I spoke too soon. </P> <P> </P> <P>SOE, CHANGE THE FREAKING 40 AND 50 SKILLS AND STOP TREATING BRUISERS LIKE CRAP.</P> <P> </P> <P>K.</P><p>Message Edited by benisbored on <span class=date_text>01-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:16 PM</span>

[kakar]

<DIV><A href="http://img21.exs.cx/img21/871/untitled6ni.gif" target=_blank>http://img21.exs.cx/img21/871/untitled6ni.gif</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>we need a cool animation like this</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>maybe start off with like ur guy bouncing around like a boxer and do a few cool swings and curving punches downwards and updwards then finish it off with a spinning uppercut with glowing fists or something.  this should replace dreadnaught crappa</DIV>

[Ezrathan]

<DIV>I think we should look wood-plated. Small wood plates for skin. We could also get a metal plated skin at 50. Also for 40 we could have a wood plate with thorns sticking out of it. Big, spiky thorns...:smileymad:</DIV>

[Kylins]

<DIV>There is always the Golem models for us bruisers... the standstone golem grafic at 40, and a granite look later on would be nice.  This would be much more preferable to animal forms, and keep in line with the original intent of the current forms, we would still retain our fighting animations as well.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kylinsky on <span class=date_text>02-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:47 PM</span>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<DIV>I'd say that a good level 50 fun spell would be to look like a Nightblood. Even an ogre sized one (or slightly smaller, if I recall Draylix correctly) would look cool.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not sure on the level 40 one... hell, I'd give up the 40 one if only we got something as neat as the Nightblood look.</DIV>

[OgApostrap]

<DIV>The sucker-punch suggestion might be good.. but there is already a fun spell like that.. Infact.. it might be bruisers <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, I know they get wood skina dn metal skin.. forgot who got the skill that punches the person in the abck of the head and knocks them down...</DIV>

[Kylins]

<DIV>Brigands stab a group member on the back and knocks em down. long recast.  Something like this would be ok for the level 20 ability. But i think we all want a different shape change lol...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I vote golem forms with a suitable texture to match wood or metal.. or even just the standard stone texture they already have lol</DIV>

[mlind]

<DIV>I like the idea of a gorilla, but agree with the others that bruisers shouldnt have an animal form.  Bruiser are down and dirty pounders. Vin Diesel in Knockaround Guys is my idea of a bruiser. But what made him a bruiser wasnt anything that can be generated by a computer it was sheer presence. Not sure anything physical would really give them that flavor then i thought of something. A buff that removes certain aspects of the clothing and reveals some killer tattoos. That should be relatively easy imo and to me would give it that bad [FAAR-NERFED!] dont mess with me look that bruisers need. That would be the 40th level one.  Im thinking remove chest plate and shoulder pads and keep bracers. Then at 50 give us the guise of the juggernaut, a black cyclops mask(single triangular slit), black armor with some silver or red etchings that possible match the tattoo given at 40, then trick it out with the bracers spiked slightly angled back that ends at fist in two long blades that bloom slighty but come to a point. That in IMO would give bruisers that scary i dont want to mess with that guy look.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tramenxs Flamestaff</DIV> <DIV>39th bruiser</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Rulnest]

<DIV>Many great choices here Sony.  I could pick my faverite but actually i will be happy as long as we get a true shapechange and not just a make me ugly button like we have now.</DIV> <DIV>28 Necro</DIV> <DIV>23 Bruiser</DIV> <DIV>Permafrost</DIV>

[Alis]

<DIV>what about an ability that makes us grow to twice or 3 times our normal size for a moment and do some cool animation like hurl our fist at the ground or something.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anything but a palette swap heh</DIV>