This is really bad nerf! Cant Belive!

[richard]

<DIV>Hello</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First i must say that im very happy with the expansion, devs have made a very solid expansion here. Like it very much!</DIV> <DIV>Only thing i dislike ALOT is that i can not solo anymore, i mean i solo 15% weaker AND THATS MUCH! I was in total shock</DIV> <DIV>after i went to KoS and started killing the mobs i was used to, avoidance does not work good anymore, i get low on hp really</DIV> <DIV>fast. I noticed maybe little increase in damage but not much. This really seems very very very bad, at this time i do not want</DIV> <DIV>to continue as a monk and seriously think about going betrayal. Also as a note, i bought good extra eq on new slots and still </DIV> <DIV>this? Loading times are much reduced and game looks better on higher end graphics, lot of improvements. Now seriously</DIV> <DIV>thinking about rerolling a new char and maybe betraying. I just do not feel like xping after i need to do much more to get the</DIV> <DIV>xp, also where the hell did the vitality xp bonus go?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Utterly shocked, all i can say! (I wount quit, just trye new classes, so no u cant have my stuff)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Other than that im happy with the expansion....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[selch]

<P>Just hoping for a chance that KoS mobs did not get touched yet etc.</P> <P>Mr. Droag was healing himself while stiffled, stunned etc. I did not test with a group yet, but not expecting a miracle.</P> <P> </P>

[Thorikos]

<DIV>they took out vitality???</DIV>

[Teak]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> richardoz wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hello</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>... also where the hell did the vitality xp bonus go?</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I'm guessing you are talking about the fact that some mobs aren't giving the second line about XP bonus. If so, maybe this line in the patch message will help clear that up.</P> <P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <SPAN><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00>*** Gameplay ***</FONT></STRONG></SPAN> <DIV>...</DIV> <DIV>...</DIV> <DIV>... When you defeat an encounter that only has one member you will no longer get a separate message about encounter experience. But rest assured that the amount of experience you get in this situation has not changed.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by Teak on <span class=date_text>11-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:42 AM</span>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> richardoz wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hello</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First i must say that im very happy with the expansion, devs have made a very solid expansion here. Like it very much!</DIV> <DIV>Only thing i dislike ALOT is that i can not solo anymore, i mean i solo 15% weaker AND THATS MUCH! I was in total shock</DIV> <DIV>after i went to KoS and started killing the mobs i was used to, avoidance does not work good anymore, i get low on hp really</DIV> <DIV>fast. I noticed maybe little increase in damage but not much. This really seems very very very bad, at this time i do not want</DIV> <DIV>to continue as a monk and seriously think about going betrayal. Also as a note, i bought good extra eq on new slots and still </DIV> <DIV>this? Loading times are much reduced and game looks better on higher end graphics, lot of improvements. Now seriously</DIV> <DIV>thinking about rerolling a new char and maybe betraying. I just do not feel like xping after i need to do much more to get the</DIV> <DIV>xp, also where the hell did the vitality xp bonus go?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Utterly shocked, all i can say! (I wount quit, just trye new classes, so no u cant have my stuff)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Other than that im happy with the expansion....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Don't betray..  I used to be able to solo blue ^^^ heroics and now I can't..  Plus  green ^^^ heroics now are giving me hard time to take damage.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I think they buffed those green/blue heroics way too much.. <BR></P>

[Deathspell]

<p><span>Perhaps because of the changes:</span></p><p><span>- Gray, Green, and Blue mobs can now present a bit more of a threat than they could previously.</span></p><p><span>- High Yellow and </span><span>Orange</span><span> mobs are slightly less difficult than they were previously.</span></p><div></div>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deathspell wrote:<BR> <P><SPAN>Perhaps because of the changes:<BR></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>- Gray, Green, and Blue mobs can now present a bit more of a threat than they could previously.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>- High Yellow and </SPAN><SPAN>Orange</SPAN><SPAN> mobs are slightly less difficult than they were previously.</SPAN></P><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It said BIT more of a threat..  Bit means little increase.  It's not the case. Green/Blue heroic got buffed up wayyyy too much..  It should say  "can now present SIGNIFICANT more of a threat" which would be proper.  The wording is a lie by SOE. Or the greatly buffed up by green/blue is not intentional..

[superdave]

people when u con them what do they say takes 3 or more to take them right. last time i looked solo isnt 3 or more.

[Fleaba]

<P>Here's a way to look at what many call a nerf. </P> <P>Are you set up as a DPS monk or a Defensive monk? Maybe they intended the 2 different directions to have more of an impact on what you can and cannot do in the game. </P> <P> </P>

[Illustrious]

<DIV>people when u con them what do they say takes 3 or more to take them right. last time i looked solo isnt 3 or more. <P></P> <DIV>talk softly and carry a big stick!!!<BR><BR>teidden lvl 70 monk sensei of ring of destiny</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thats 3 or more at EVEN CON..not green or blue</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It not just monks affected by this change tho but i think any tank/melee. The only classes not affected are those with roots who can still merrily kill yellow heroic namers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now what was my wizards alt name again....hmmm</DIV>

[DynamicPerforman]

<DIV>Sigh... gonna say this again. Getting tired, and i'll go take a nap soon but.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>GOD SPELLS!,  NEW AA'S!!, AUGMENTS!!!, CLOAK AND EARRING SLOT!!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How many here have maxed those out?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sorry, but even WITH the "nerf" I can still solo 68 heroic nameds in kaladim.  I'm just trying to imagine what I will be able to do with 500 more stats, a ton of more defenses, and double my current procs.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They just raised the max character SO high.  That we seem like noobs in comparisan. Give it a bit, there is so much room to improve.</DIV>

[Gungo]

I liek green and blue heroics are hard to solo. It is suppose to be harder content. That said  there is an issue with avodiacne overall that is being looked into.

[selch]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> *snip* that is being looked into.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Any posts or points about where do you get this idea?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[selch]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DynamicPerformance wrote:<BR> <DIV>*wahaa snip*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sorry, but even WITH the "nerf" I can still solo 68 heroic nameds in kaladim.  <BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Do you call Kaladim heroic?</P> <P>Let's take you to good ol' zone PoA or SoS and hear the results...</P><p>Message Edited by selch on <span class=date_text>11-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:48 AM</span>

[Gungo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> selch wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> *snip* that is being looked into.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Any posts or points about where do you get this idea?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>After i talked to lockeye today about it.</P> <P>he also said an unctested portion of deflection is coming but didn't make the beta cut.</P>

[DynamicPerforman]

<DIV>Kaladim isn't heroic? Everything in there from the gate onward is 65+ heroic mobs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I had the same success in other zones. I'll go try KoS in a bit and see for myself I suppose.</DIV>