Monk dps vs scout dps

[Valgar80]

<DIV>Would it be said that a monk would do less dmg then the least damaging of the scout class's? or can a monk out dmg some of the scout class's?</DIV>

[selch]

<DIV>Bards, yes, rest, no...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Jade]

a  raid geared monk or bruiser can   make the  top of the  parser    <done it  many times <div></div>

[Cirth_Beer]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Jade a écrit:a  raid geared monk or bruiser can   make the  top of the  parser    <done it  many times <div></div><hr></blockquote>... if the scout and mage slack :pi'm usually in the top10 dps, but assassin, swash brig or overagroing wiz (or conj/necr) are above me (i do around 1k-1k2 dps in the right group setup)</div><p>Message modifié par Cirth_Beer le <span class=date_text>11-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:58 PM</span>

[RoMaJo]

<DIV>aye i totally agree. i hope we remain nearish the top?</DIV>

[Kainsei]

I can be on par with rogues sometimes but it depends on the mobs and group makeup.Usually I'm just behind rogues and wizzies and way behind assassins and summoners.<div></div>

[Mentla]

Bard lowest scout dps then?<div></div>

[selch]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>Bard lowest scout dps then?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>They cause others to make DPS as an utility class. Considering all those monks can not do these 1K values without mobs being debuffed, their dps buffed and such.</DIV>

[psubull]

<div></div>A decent rogue/predator should always outparse even the best brawlers (except when bruisers have KO combo up, or the fight lasts less than 20 seconds).  The same is true for summoners/sorcerors.  If the monk/bruiser is at the top of the parse over and over, the scouts are slacking -- get new scouts.<div></div><p>Message Edited by psubullet on <span class=date_text>11-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:37 PM</span>

[Kitty006]

<DIV>/rant on</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These posts get on my nerves, I (monk) can parse near top IF i have much better buffs than everyone else.  Give me a zerker and a coercer (100% haste and dps) and some procs, I will tear @#%$ up (so would a scout even if he doesnt have haste capped as we would).  Put me in a group with a pally, a templar, a necro, fury, and brigand (who gets agitate) and the dirge and the guardian MA will out parse me (even with 100% haste in balanced stance).  (i have 3 fabled for every non jewelery slot it is not my gear, my AA build is slightly tankish but crits and proc are maxed)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you AA build for pure DPS and go balanced stance you can sort of hold your own against some 2nd tier dps classes (not a brig/swash/assasin/necro/conj/wiz if he has a bard and some dehate gear) assuming you have = to slightly better group buffage.  But you will also die noticably faster than that brig if you end up with a named 4x on you, unless you get the ward and tsunami off then you will die about 0.5sec after it ends unless the mob uses one of the many attacks that ignore it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When a monk makes top of parse its his group not him, give a brig/swash/assasin/ranger those buffs and they would out parse the monk.  There are situations where haste can help balance out some of the base damage advantage scouts have over tanks, but almost always scout dps >> than monk dps with equal buffs  *not counting troubs*.  ((please keeps the buffs coming))</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That said i like being a monk, healing and group fd are useful and we are good for pulling (when tsunami works) plus we have good to respecatable dps in the right group but very average dps in the wrong group.  We arent the best choice for tanking epics though, they just dont miss even if your avoid is 79%.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wish they would fix the log to say monk does 600dps, coercer added 300, zerker added 150 , wiz added 90, and debuffers multiplied that total by 1.5.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>as of tomorrow (if the servers are up) who knows</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/rant off</DIV>

[Shinku]

I have to agree with Kitty above, that about sums it up. I'm 3/4 fabled gear with 2 (60+DR) duel wield weapons. And it's all about group make up. You stick me with coercer and bezerker in mt group and i'm averaging 1-1.3k dps. without a lot of help in group makup, I average between 600 and 800...er guess that would be 700 then eh <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> lol. Anyway, that's in a "whatever makup" group. Since we can er, (used to cap our haste), dps buffs are vital for parsing high. I'll make top 10 9/10 times in any group, but usually at the bottom unless I have nice dps buffs. Then I can get up to number 4 in the parses. Our Rangers, Assassins, will always be at the top3 with the occasional mage in there.<div></div>