Nerf to Doom Trio Drops?

[Morrolan V]

<DIV>Hey all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My guild runs Labs weekly, and I am very frustrated.  Been looking for the second Twin for weeks, and have never seen it drop (the high damage TC has dropped for us three times).  The last three times we have killed the Trio, they have dropped a legendary chest only.  Anyone else seeing this kind of reduction, or just a bad run for us?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(Oh, and we always kill that encounter first pull, so it's not that.)</DIV><p>Message Edited by Morrolan V on <span class=date_text>10-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:22 AM</span>

[Deathblade13]

I think only one of the twins has ever dropped for us, and we do a full run just about every week too.<div></div>

[jrolla777]

yeah its random, sorry youve been looking for 'weeks' we've been clearing labs for months and  havent seen either. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[TheRealMo]

We've done Lab every week for months and months. And have had each Twin Calamity only drop one time. <span>:smileysad:</span><hr size="2" width="100%"><div></div>

[Perfidiou]

<DIV>only had it drop once since KoS release. Lucky me the other monk (F Greyl) with more dkp missed the raid so I could get them :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Shankonia]

<P>Got my twin (w/ the debuff proc) the first time we killed the Trio which was the 2nd week of KoS.....I did not get a discovery on it.</P> <P>We've killed them weekly ever since and it is the only Twin Calamity that has dropped for our guild.</P>

[psubull]

I have never seen it drop.<div></div>

[Morrolan V]

<P>Heh.  Sounds like we actually got pretty lucky.  :smileysurprised:  (Although I should say we've been looking for months, as well.)</P> <P>I am just tired of seeing those darn legendary chests on these MoBs.</P> <P>[/whineoff]</P><p>Message Edited by Morrolan V on <span class=date_text>10-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:23 AM</span>

[superdave]

When the last time anyone seen any relic drops in labs. we clear it every week and maybe see 2 drops and its usually chain helm. blah. i guess the nerfed that too huh. got to love those stealth nerf's. /sarcasm off

[atreyu]

ive seen em drop once, we formed like 4 months ago, do labs every week, i seen once since then soo.... >< grrrrr

[Supp]

We've raided Lab a lot, and 3 twins have dropped. The first set went to one monk, and I got the debuff one recently. I am ever hopeful, but it is true they drop ever infrequently.

[Elan Morin Tedron]

<DIV>I was very lucky to have both of them drop in our first 5 kills, and being the only highlvl monk in guild at the time I got both. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We do Labs weekly too, and have never seen another Calamity drop since. Lots of legendary chests though from this encounter <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[JudyJudy]

<P><EM>I've seen the big Calamities drop once - my first time clearing Labs.</EM></P> <P><EM>Since then we've gotten that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] belt.</EM></P> <P>:smileymad:</P>

[Rrawl]

<DIV>I've seen both twins drop twice now, I'm not sure how many months we've been running Labs now... not since realease of KOS, but at least 4 months now... probably more. If it helps any, two of the drops happened in the last two weeks... so they are still in the loot table. Keep on raiding til your number comes up.</DIV>

[Rrawl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> superdave wrote:<BR> When the last time anyone seen any relic drops in labs. we clear it every week and maybe see 2 drops and its usually chain helm. blah. i guess the nerfed that too huh. got to love those stealth nerf's. /sarcasm off<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>relic drops just seem to be very random to me. We've cleared all of labs including vyemm/alzid and had NO relic drop... We've also had 6 or 7 relic drop in one run...</P> <P>Just keep at it, the law of averages will eventually come up with your number.</P>

[Illustrious]

Has been no nerf as far as i can see. Just the drop rate has been very low right from the start. We have killed that mob every week apart from maybe first 3 or 4 weeks of KoS and so far only the high DR rating one has dropped and that only 1 time.  The debuff 1 has never dropped.  At best its like 1 in 5 weeks to even get a fabled item normally its the same legendary crap that drops from the trash.<p>Message Edited by Illustrious on <span class=date_text>10-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:45 PM</span>

[Morrolan V]

<DIV>Yeah - we have had the same experiences with relic.  Sometimes none, sometimes 6 or 7 in a run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just looked over our DKP site.  In all of our raiding we have collected 94 pieces of relic.  Of those, it has broken down:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>35 Plate</DIV> <DIV>29 Chain</DIV> <DIV>20 Silk</DIV> <DIV>10 Leather</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I assume that the drop rates are indexed somehow to the proportion of characters in game that wear that type of armor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the other hand, we seem to get one of the legendary excarnate pieces (forearms or hands) on more than half our Labs runs.  Can't tell you how many of those have been vendored . . .</DIV>

[Rrawl]

I have seen more relic leather drop the excarnate... if you can imagine that...It's just all very random. We've also gotten more relic leather then cloth, but the chaina nd plate we've seen a lot more of.<div></div>

[Timaarit]

<blockquote><hr>Morrolan V wrote:<div>Yeah - we have had the same experiences with relic.  Sometimes none, sometimes 6 or 7 in a run.</div> <div> </div> <div>Just looked over our DKP site.  In all of our raiding we have collected 94 pieces of relic.  Of those, it has broken down:</div> <div> </div> <div>35 Plate</div> <div>29 Chain</div> <div>20 Silk</div> <div>10 Leather</div> <div> </div> <div>I assume that the drop rates are indexed somehow to the proportion of characters in game that wear that type of armor.</div> <div> </div> <div>On the other hand, we seem to get one of the legendary excarnate pieces (forearms or hands) on more than half our Labs runs.  Can't tell you how many of those have been vendored . . .</div><hr></blockquote>6 classes use plate, 8 classes use chain, 4 classes use leather and 6 classes use cloth.<div></div>

[Deathspell]

Whatever they say or the odds are, something has changed:I remember everybody doing lab runs and everybody got a fair chance of getting a relic, then there was a period where it was really hard to get a relic piece without going deeper and having to kill a named. Maybe 1 drop or none at all.Now relic drops again, but the variety still seems [Removed for Content]'d.My last 5 lab thrash runs gave plate and chain all the time and I saw 1 leather drop.During the full lab run, we almost had 6 masters in a row, all 6 were plate or chain.On 2 runs we even had plate legs drop twice and chain chest drop twice.Then I hear from a raid guild that Deathtol was the zone for "caster's gear", cloth and leather was dropping very often in Deathtol.I know coincidence and luck can be huge, but I'm not buying this in a programmed envorinment. All the more since people arround me share the same experience.

[shaolen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JudyJudy wrote:<BR> <P><EM>I've seen the big Calamities drop once - my first time clearing Labs.</EM></P> <P><EM>Since then we've gotten that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] belt.</EM></P> <P>:smileymad:</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, and it doesnt help that you have the crappiest luck when it comes to fabled rolls  :smileysad:

[JudyJudy]

<P><EM>Man, you got that right brother.</EM></P> <P><EM>What, out of a /ran 1000 - I may clear double digits?</EM></P> <P><EM>The kicker is...</EM></P> <P><EM>I'll roll 100 for a sack of poo or enchanted water...</EM></P> <P>:smileyvery-happy:</P>

[Supp]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deathspell wrote:<BR>Whatever they say or the odds are, something has changed:<BR>I remember everybody doing lab runs and everybody got a fair chance of getting a relic, then there was a period where it was really hard to get a relic piece without going deeper and having to kill a named. Maybe 1 drop or none at all.<BR>Now relic drops again, but the variety still seems [Removed for Content]'d.<BR><BR>My last 5 lab thrash runs gave plate and chain all the time and I saw 1 leather drop.<BR>During the full lab run, we almost had 6 masters in a row, all 6 were plate or chain.<BR>On 2 runs we even had plate legs drop twice and chain chest drop twice.<BR><BR>Then I hear from a raid guild that Deathtol was the zone for "caster's gear", <FONT color=#33ccff>cloth and leather was dropping very often in Deathtol.</FONT><BR><BR>I know coincidence and luck can be huge, but I'm not buying this in a programmed envorinment. <BR>All the more since people arround me share the same experience. <BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>That WAS true. Starting raiding Deathtoll 4 or 5 weeks ago. The first week, were were drowning in relic drops. And there were two leather pieces. It was so nice. I finally felt like I was gonna get my gear. Then there was an update where the relic drop rate in DT was being revisited. Since then, relic drops no more commonly in there than labs. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>I just dont understand this relic business. Relic gear isnt all that great. It's not right that it's so rare.</FONT> <BR></P>

[superdave]

<DIV>so with the relic drop being nerfed, the guilds who hit up sooner got butt load and guild who started on it little late got the shaft again. we just got our first relic bp to drop in dt on saturday. first one we have ever seen drop for us. so whats up with that. bad luck i dont buy it.</DIV>

[russkyj]

<P>we run Labs every week and I have only seen the big calamity drop once several weeks ago, we did however get the relic BP drop (lucky me) last Sunday.</P> <P> </P> <P>Uryuk</P>

[Supp]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> superdave wrote:<BR> <DIV>so with the relic drop being nerfed, the guilds who hit up sooner got butt load and guild who started on it little late got the shaft again. we just got our first relic bp to drop in dt on saturday. first one we have ever seen drop for us. so whats up with that. bad luck i dont buy it.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#cccccc>I must say Superdave (Osborn?) that that is a recurring motif. Ive noticed that for about two weeks after a person enters a new zone, the first person I mean, drops are fantastic. Then SOE guages drop rates and adjusts them accordingly, or nerfingly. So being an early bird really pays off.</FONT></DIV>

[Shankonia]

<P>It is pretty wild the way it "works."</P> <P>Since raiding Labs week one of KoS, I might have seen 9 or 10 total leather relic drops.  I take a 2-week hiatus to move down South, and upon my return every leather wearer in my guild has a leather BP, if not a full set of the stuff.</P> <P>I think we got 6 or 8 total relic drops off of trash before the hurler in DT our first trip in.  Can't say I recall seeing another since.  Granted, I tend to miss DT as it's on a Sat. night and I enjoy going out on weekends, but every time i've raided DT the Bonetooth Skewer drops.  Seen 5 of them.  Gratz bank.</P> <P>Harla - ALWAYS drops the leather BP and plate sabatons.</P> <P>Vyemm - ALWAYS drops the Zerker/Guard BP and the Mage BP.</P> <P>Alzid Prime - ALWAYS drops nemesis footpads.</P> <P>----------------------------------------------------------------------</P> <P>What really eats me up is the fact that I've raided every single week, multiple raids, on my Monk, since week one of KoS.  I ROUTINELY see alt Monks, or semi-noob monks back from 6 months away from game running around wearing all the loot i've never had drop + what I already have.</P> <P>I did get the DD Gi the first time we killed Rohen in T6 so I guess i'll shut up.  I still want some love though.</P>

[superdave]

Cleared labs on wednesday and not one piece of relic or anything off trash.

[Illustrious]

Hey all these weeks since KoS came out and get a second ever Calamitie drop this week. Shame its the same 63dr one i already had and no other brawler raids in our guild.

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> russkyj wrote:<BR> <P>we run Labs every week and I have only seen the big calamity drop once several weeks ago, we did however get the relic BP drop (lucky me) last Sunday.</P> <P> </P> <P>Uryuk</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>seen it once and i was on my fkn alt !!!! sods law </P> <P>and whats with labs and the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] bard crap all the time ????</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Supp]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Illustrious wrote:<BR> Hey all these weeks since KoS came out and get a second ever Calamitie drop this week. Shame its the same 63dr one i already had and no other brawler raids in our guild.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#cccccc>Wish I could have been there. That's the one Im missing</FONT> :smileysad:

[Morrolan V]

<DIV>Just reporting back - 5th straight legendary chest off this encounter last week.  :smileysad:</DIV>

[Bladewind]

We've hit them for the past 8 weeks. The first three kills were legendary chests,and we have seen a fabled chest drop every other kill since then.  No calamities, though - sad monky <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Rrawl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shankonia wrote:<BR> <P>Vyemm - ALWAYS drops the Zerker/Guard BP and the Mage BP.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We seem to get two Doomseer bp's a lot... and sucks cuz both our shamans got them the first time.</P> <P>Oddly enough, this week we got no BP's of any kind, and instead we got 2 hammers, one one hander and a 2 hander.</P>

[WaachBack]

<DIV>4 legendary chests in a row for us.</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rrawl wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shankonia wrote:<BR> <P>Vyemm - ALWAYS drops the Zerker/Guard BP and the Mage BP.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We seem to get two Doomseer bp's a lot... and sucks cuz both our shamans got them the first time.</P> <P>Oddly enough, this week we got no BP's of any kind, and instead we got 2 hammers, one one hander and a 2 hander.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>at least u get somthing nice we get x 2 dirge ones everytime !! woot !!!</P> <P>oO</P> <P>vendor makes a killing off us </P>

[Shankonia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkMirrax wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rrawl wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shankonia wrote:<BR> <P>Vyemm - ALWAYS drops the Zerker/Guard BP and the Mage BP.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>We seem to get two Doomseer bp's a lot... and sucks cuz both our shamans got them the first time.</P> <P>Oddly enough, this week we got no BP's of any kind, and instead we got 2 hammers, one one hander and a 2 hander.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT color=#99ff66>at least u get somthing nice we get x 2 dirge ones everytime !! woot !!!</FONT></P> <P>oO</P> <P>vendor makes a killing off us </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Heh.  Nice?  I also play a 70 Dirge who I keep outside of the zone in when i'm on my Monk and vice versa.  I would gladly sell 3/4's of my Monk's weapons just to have another Bard BP drop as we've only seen one drop total so far.</P> <P>I think every one of our mages has both Doomseer and Relic BP's, yet every other non-plate/cloth in our guild cannot shake or break the Legendary curse.   </P> <P>Above I posted we've seen 5 Bonetooth Skewers from DT - make it 8 or 9 now.<BR></P>

[KnowH]

<DIV>Krutt got the server disco on the high DR Calamity our first time killing the doom trio.  I let him have the lower DR one, the next time it dropped.  I've since gotten both and we've had a few rot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then again, we NEVER got a DD gi....  It wasn't until recently that I finally got the hat from Black Queen.  It's hit or miss :/</DIV>

[superdave]

2 relic piece this past tuesday is all. another legendary chest off them also. makes 5th in a row. way to nerf drop rates stealth style soe.

[Bladewind]

Doomseer bracer <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I love it when nameds drop trash loot!

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Yes, and I'll point out that I have the claymore weapon now, and one of the calamities, yet I still want the other one SOE! To me, they are class defining weapons that EVERY brawler should have!</FONT></DIV>

[mr23sgte]

<P>I finally got the Debuff Calamity last night, it's the 1st time ever that it has dropped for us! WOOT! The other Calamity has dropped for us only three times since KOS launch.</P> <P>The Debuff Calamity seems to proc alot more than the other damage Calamity. </P> <P>I'm pretty happy, since I just got the X2 turtle's staff this week too ---the heal procs alot.</P> <P>I've been using Fist of Pain or Bashing with the Dmg Calamity, do you guys thing the dual calamity's is the best set-up? Unfortunately I don't have the Claymore weapon yet.</P> <P>Hereo - Unrest</P><p>Message Edited by mr23sgte on <span class=date_text>10-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:09 AM</span>

[Deathblade13]

Just wanted to chime in again and say that every single time since my original post it's been a legendary drop, and we still do a whole clearing every week. And Yvemm has only dropped Excarnate Trapping twice. One time I wasn't there, and the other time the chest was bugged and I didn't get it because I wasn't logged in when the GM came to take care of it (!?).<div></div>

[mr23sgte]

<P>I feel your pain man -  I been waiting for months watching those Doomseer or other garbage drop every single time. The excarnate Rickshaw dropped for only the second time for us too last night, so it was a happy night for our new Bruiser. We have only seen the Excarnate trapping one time ever and the Leggings only twice.</P> <P> </P> <P>Hereo Unrest</P><p>Message Edited by mr23sgte on <span class=date_text>10-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:13 AM</span>

[superdave]

i let u know how it goes again tonight. we see if it another crap loot drop.<p>Message Edited by superdave on <span class=date_text>10-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:15 AM</span>

[Zendi_Perma]

Only got legendary Nemesis bracers off Trio last night, bah!    I've only seen the Excarnate hat drop once, to a guy who left the guild... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[superdave]

metal chest last time. troub master and nemess bracers!!!!! bah

[Illustrious]

<P>feel your pain man -  I been waiting for months watching those Doomseer or other garbage drop every single time. The excarnate Rickshaw dropped for only the second time for us too last night, so it was a happy night for our new Bruiser. We have only seen the Excarnate trapping one time ever and the Leggings only twice.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>Thats one more time than weve had the excarnate Trapping, never had excarnate boots either but had like 4 of the Guard/zerker BP and at least the same number of doomseer BP =/</P>

[psubull]

come to think of it, along side the 63 dr calamites, i've never seen the excarnate boots, legs or shoulders drop.  And the doom trio seems to love dropping nothing but bracers that nobody needs<div></div>

[Harpax]

<P>To the folks only seeing Legendary chests off of the Trio, are your raids splitting the encounter.  (i.e. killing 1 then letting the encounter reset then pulling the other 2?)  The only times i've seen Legendary chests dropp off that group is when that happens due to wipe or that odd memblur bug.  Our raids have gotten into the habit of waiting the 4-5 minutes for the encounter to respawn itself so that we don't run into the problem its its been metal chests ever since.</P> <P> </P> <P>Still no TC's though. :p</P>

[Sufu]

splitting an encounter has absolutley zero to do with a chest drop being legendary or metal. But over the last 3-4months, we get about 1 metal chest off Trio per month. In a 6month period we had TWO twins drop...so the drop rates are crap. They need to remove legendary chests dropping off epic x4 mobs. That crap should only drop off like minibosses, or raid trash.<div></div>

[Shankonia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Harpax wrote:<BR> <P>Our raids have gotten into the habit of waiting the 4-5 minutes for the encounter to respawn itself so that we don't run into the problem its its been metal chests ever since.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Mind explaining exactly what you mean?  </P> <P>We don't split it, we just burn it down and usually a Master with legendary equipment and Master Spell, or just a Legendary.</P>

[Illustrious]

<DIV>Harpax wrote:<BR> <P>Our raids have gotten into the habit of waiting the 4-5 minutes for the encounter to respawn itself so that we don't run into the problem its its been metal chests ever since.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>We never kill 1 at a time, just kill all 3 on the same pull and watch that legendary chest drop 9/10.</P></DIV>

[Judist]

<DIV>Sigh... one of the TC's dropped last week. No monks so /ran 1000'd for it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Jathal]

<P>Oct 28, 2006 - Antonia Bayle server</P> <P>Three Labs raids were run that I know of and all three had TC's drop... including <STRONG>MINE!</STRONG></P> <P>:smileyhappy:</P>

[psubull]

99% of the people I know with twin calamities are monks and bruisers who raid in a pickup raid once every few weeks for labs.  50% of those people have BOTH, and have probably only done the zone 3 times.  I've done it dozens and dozens of times and nothing.But seriously.  Gotta love those legendary bracer drops from the trio.  It's not like EVERY TRASH MOB IN THE ZONE PRIOR TO THEM DOESN'T DROP THEM.<div></div>

[Harpax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sufu wrote:<BR>splitting an encounter has absolutley zero to do with a chest drop being legendary or metal. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Actually, you are incorrect in that statement.  After making my observation, I tracked down someone with better knowledge of how it works and asked them.  They responsded that I was correct with the observation.  Basically mitigate the risk of the encounter by spliting it up, you mitigate the potential reward as well.

[Deathblade13]

GUYS OMGZ last night Twin Calamties dropped as well as Excarnate Trapping and Excarnate Rickshaw, plus Relic Leather Pants. And then I woke up.<div></div>

[mr23sgte]

<P>:smileyhappy: Excarnate boots dropped last night -- a guild 1st since launch ----I'm in full Excarnate now.</P> <P> </P> <P>Hereo </P> <P>Unrest </P>

[Illustrious]

<DIV>Excarnate boots dropped last night -- a guild 1st since launch ----I'm in full Excarnate now. <P> </P> <P>Hereo</P> <P>Unrest </P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>grats on you =)</P> <P> </P> <P>Unfortunatly still waiting for first Trapping or boots  from a weekly clearance since about week 7 or 8 of KoS. Still its always better hoping for something to drop i guess than doing runs where there is nothing at all left in zone you actually want....HoS ring any bells there for brawlers after about 2 loots?</P></DIV>

[arka]

<DIV>My guild has ran Labs weekly for months, and they have never dropped them. Mostly the crappy Legendary chest.</DIV>

[Supp]

<P><FONT color=#cccccc>Dropped the trio again last night. It dropped the excarnate wrists.</FONT> </P> <P align=center><FONT color=#ff0000 size=7><STRONG>G R O A N ! ! !</STRONG></FONT></P> <P align=left><FONT color=#cccccc size=3>If it's gonna drop excarnate, why not the legs? And why drop something that's gotten off lab trash? This is a named. This is SO FRUSTRATING! Henceforth, I'm going to create a petition or bug report every time it doesnt drop. I have been raiding labs every week since 2 months after KoS came out, and the 57 DW has dropped twice, and the 63 DW has NEVER dropped. In fact, when I get home tonight, Im going to petition it. I'm sick of going in there week after week, and not getting my calamity. And Lord help me if the 57 drops. </FONT></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:52 AM</span>

[Supp]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Harpax wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sufu wrote:<BR>splitting an encounter has absolutley zero to do with a chest drop being legendary or metal. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Actually, you are incorrect in that statement.  After making my observation, I tracked down someone with better knowledge of how it works and asked them.  They responsded that I was correct with the observation.  Basically mitigate the risk of the encounter by spliting it up, you mitigate the potential reward as well.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Let me make a clarification on "splitting", in case this goes off the deep end. "Splitting" an encounter normally means killing part of a group of mobs, and wiping or feigning off the rest so you can re-engage to finish the remainder off more easily. You can do that on non-epic encounters. But on epic encounters, you dont get a chest if you "split".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>In the case of the doom trio, guilds frequently "split" them, but they mean 3 tanks are tanking separately in the raid. So it's really being fought still as one encounter.</FONT><BR></DIV><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>11-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:04 AM</span>

[JudyJudy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supple wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>In the case of the doom trio, guilds frequently "split" them, but they mean 3 tanks are tanking separately in the raid. So it's really being fought still as one encounter.</FONT><BR></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Supple on <SPAN class=date_text>11-09-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:04 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><EM>Exactly.</EM></P> <P><EM>In one instance, I off-tanked the doom prophet while the MT tanked the ravager and the reaver.</EM></P> <P><EM>Once they were down, I "passed" the prophet over to the MT.</EM></P> <P><EM>Same encounter - no fail - got a master off the trio - and only time I ever seen the high DR calamities.  :smileysad:</EM><BR></P>

[Lyasa]

my guild usually has MT on reaver/ravager. another tank on prophet. we've seen 1 63 calamity. and ~4 legendary out of 6, maybe 7 kills. (other steel was shaman sticker and belt) mostly bracers that we already have lots of. <div></div>

[superdave]

we straight up tank all 3 everytime. never split em nothing. last night doomseer bracers i think. no tc

[Untalent]

<div></div>Have the devs ever stated anything about making fabled drop more off x4's?Because I don't understand why the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] legendary boxes drop 9/10 times and the other 1/10 usually isnt a calamity. It would be nice if we could get some type of response about this.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Untalented on <span class=date_text>11-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:32 AM</span>

[Bladewind]

<DIV>Finally had one of them drop last night (the 57 DR/debuff one).  Looking forward to another 3-4 month wait for the high DR one, lol.</DIV>

[Harpax]

<P>No, by splitting i mean kill one, wipe / leash the remaining mobs and let the encounter go back, then pull the other 2 and kill them.  That will lower your chances of getting a metal chest.  And for those folks who I know will post that i'm full of it, I offer you this nugget to choke on. :p</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=61045&query.id=0#M61045" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=61045&query.id=0#M61045</A><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/%20…%20d=0#M61045" target=_blank></A></P> <P> </P> <P> </P>