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Xrazor
09-18-2006, 09:28 PM
I have been playing a pally for over a year and do to lifestyle I end up soloing alot....but have had no fun at all....I recently created a monk and am at level 27 and WOW am I having fun...Heroic mobs and ^^^heroics that are equal or below me are no problem, I cut through them like butter, I can kill named as well. I am starting see more fabled drops now and am having a blast.I can do huge quests alone as long as there green, where with the pally they needed to be grey most of the time.My question is will this fun continue for soloing at higher levels?
Icehawke
09-18-2006, 10:04 PM
<P>I've got a level 50 monk, and while I've not upgraded my armor to the appropriate tier yet, I still routinely solo yellow ^^ mobs. Named and ^^^ I tend to be a bit more conservative with, usually sticking to blue. When my healer is on, I run her out of mana before I rest, and that's usually a good amount.</P> <P>I expect once I get the 50/52 armor, my healing requirements will drop considerably.</P>
Flotten
09-18-2006, 10:17 PM
<DIV>Not sure about monks but my 37 bruiser can not even come close to soloing a yellow or white con ^^^ heroic (non heroic sure, but not herioc). And all my gear is up to date (and my avoidance is 65%)</DIV>
Icehawke
09-18-2006, 10:26 PM
How about your arts? That has a serious effect on damage, and maintaining agro. All of mine, with a couple of exceptions are Ad3+. Only time I've lost agro, is when a caster aoe nukes right away, or I give it up. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
ki sensei
09-18-2006, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, its even funner at 70 imo. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
AsheM
09-18-2006, 10:27 PM
<DIV>Yes it is still fun soloing at higher levels. Granted my monk is only 44 and so not that much higher than yours, but he is still fun and I solo about 95% of the time. The bigger you get the harder it becomes to solo heroics. I can barely kill 40ish^^^ heroics. It's usually a 50/50 chance that I'll have to feign death (so I typically don't even try unless it's a quest I want to do). I can still kill named heroics but they have to be green and typically 8-10 levels lower than me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If soloing is your thing then you've made a good choice in a monk. Most of the complaints I hear are from 70 monks who feel inferior to other 70 fighters. Until then we have a blast. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>
DalamarArge
09-19-2006, 01:20 AM
<P>My monk is 54 and if I try a heroic greater than 48 I will lose. I don't consider this bad, however, since a 6 level difference to me is a tough fighter. I always solo, and have done hqs completely alone easily.</P> <P>I have 6 characters but this monk is my favorite.</P> <P>I absolutely hate PUGs, so I'm hoping my ability to effectively solo continues.</P>
Ethelwo
09-20-2006, 06:49 AM
My monk is L70 and loaded with fabled gear and almost all master 1 skills, anyone who says they can solo a yellow ^^^ is being less then truthfull with you. You can do green ^^^ if your properly outfitted and have yourself set up right. Never use everburning blaze when soloing. Just go offensive and use your group haste buff with a haste item and you'll hardly have to toss a heal on yourself. If you headed down deep into sos or any other dungeon using FD make sure your in your defensive stanse for the run.
<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>My monk is also loaded with fabled gear and almost all masters. If it was exactly the right mob, a yellow ^^^ might be possible on my best day. But normally a white ^^^ would be very hard, and certainly unreliable. Green^^^ I can do it every time no problem, Blue^^^ certainly doable, but I need to pay attention. Yellow^ not a problem. Yellow^^ and things start becoming pretty questionable because of how avoidance works™</FONT></DIV>
Navino
09-27-2006, 01:32 AM
<font size="2">I can just about solo level 71^^^ Heroics in PoA for example, using my wards, heal and by using my Uberstunconstantlawl moves. (Assailing Jag, Kick thingie, Silencing, talon, repeat.) =P It's great fun to solo as a Monk. I'm level 70, Just a few pieces of fabled and 2 pieces of relic included in that. Haven't gotten claymore yet, *Tarinax needed*, but I still manage to solo up to 71^^^, however, I never used to be able to, and just a bit of an equipment and CA tier update has made this possible. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Soloing is always great for farming and quests, etc. So yeah, I'd say that the fun does continue, as long as you're not "always" soloing, or you'll just get bored of it. Wow. I ranted...Hope this helped? =P</font><div></div>
<P><FONT color=#cccccc>It's posts like that Navino that get us nerfed and misinformed. Please tell me youre on Antonia Bayle so I can watch you do this reliably. While Tsunami is up and youre going through youre initial array of CAs, things will appear to be going well. Then things "could" go horribly awry, and likely so against a yellow. You'll get a short reprieve with your heal, but that's really only for putting you over the top at the end of a kill that's questionable. Now since I got some fabled dual wielders, Ive respeced and taken the last item in the Int line that gives me great dps and mit while I'm hurting. I havent tested it solo yet, so we'll see. Did you take that one?</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>I'm not saying yellow^^^ cant be done, I just mean it's very unreliable.</FONT></P><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>09-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:14 AM</span>
Navino
09-28-2006, 10:43 AM
<font size="2"><font face="Arial">I'll tell you exactly where.PoA - 4th Floor - The massive bird thingies, 4 of them, around the 3 lifts. I was with a defiler, who died. So I had to clear the mobs around him. I killed the 70^^^'s around it, and survived with about 20% health.Using all my wards, etc. You could watch me do it, but yes, there is always the chance it goes pair shaped because of our mitigation. Sometimes we can get lucky, sometimes it buggers up.If I use my wards, heal and uber stuns in the right way, then I suppose it is possible. =)I don't see why i'd have to prove it to you, but sure. =P </font></font><div></div>
<P><FONT color=#cccccc>When approaching a nasty fight solo, I'll do this...</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Be in defensive the whole time and no everburning blaze.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Yank and engage, throw up my ward and tsunami. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>When tsunami is running low, throw up skin like mountain.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Beyond that, I'll throw up my master heal when the need arises.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>During combat, I use my stuns and jump arounds in the proper order, spacing them out for autoattacks to get off.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cccccc>Do you do anything differently?</FONT></P>
JudyJudy
10-03-2006, 12:37 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ethelwolf wrote:<BR> My monk is L70 and loaded with fabled gear and almost all master 1 skills, anyone who says they can solo a yellow ^^^ is being less then truthfull with you. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><EM>I'm sorry friend. You are incorrect.</EM></P> <P><EM>Please do not lump all monks into a single category.</EM></P> <P><EM>This is not meant to be offensive - It just peeves me to no end when players put a cap on the skills of others.</EM><BR></P>
Illustrious
10-03-2006, 01:56 AM
<P>Yellow lev 71^^^ standard heroics are certainly possible as a 70 monk with decent gear. I dont see this as being nerfable tho seen as there are plenty of classes do far far better and can kill 71^^^+ namers f/ex any class in game with a root. The same ones that can solo every heroic namer in Bonemire f.ex. personally i dont know of any yellow or white heroic namer i could take, they have too much hp to get through b4 i die. Killing yellow heroics solo isnt exactly worthwhile anyways, i mean why bother killing 1 mob (slowly and with great risk) to then have to wait for tsunami and heal to to refresh b4 being able to think about pulling another? surely a duo or small grp is far easier all around?</P> <P> </P> <P>For max solo AA i would say 4,4,4,8 in Int and Wis together with vraskin club. With approx 100% crits then at under 30% hp (if u got MoA also) the dps output would be awesome especially if waiting for under 30% hp b4 using crane flock. havent tried it yet myself but im willing to bet it would be awesome for solo.</P> <P>Oh and personally if i ever do try solo any heroics then i find full on Offence stance is easier than defense, but not burning flame line as thats crap with no healer imo.</P><p>Message Edited by Illustrious on <span class=date_text>10-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:02 PM</span>
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Illustrious wrote:<BR> <P>Yellow lev 71^^^ standard heroics are certainly possible as a 70 monk with decent gear. I dont see this as being nerfable tho seen as there are plenty of classes do far far better and can kill 71^^^+ namers f/ex any class in game with a root. The same ones that can solo every heroic namer in Bonemire f.ex. personally i dont know of any yellow or white heroic namer i could take, they have too much hp to get through b4 i die. Killing yellow heroics solo isnt exactly worthwhile anyways, i mean why bother killing 1 mob (slowly and with great risk) to then have to wait for tsunami and heal to to refresh b4 being able to think about pulling another? surely a duo or small grp is far easier all around?</P> <P> </P> <P><FONT color=#33ccff>For max solo AA i would say 4,4,4,8 in Int and Wis together with vraskin club. With approx 100% crits then at under 30% hp (if u got MoA also) the dps output would be awesome especially if waiting for under 30% hp b4 using crane flock. havent tried it yet myself but im willing to bet it would be awesome for solo.</FONT></P> <P>Oh and personally if i ever do try solo any heroics then i find full on Offence stance is easier than defense, but not burning flame line as thats crap with no healer imo.</P> <P>Message Edited by Illustrious on <SPAN class=date_text>10-02-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:02 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#cccccc>Yes, that's what I was thinking on Illustrious. Though it would be more like 4, 4, 8, 4, 8 in Int for that under 30% thing. I havent tried it solo yet, but it's been doing amazing things for me in groups. I need to get my booty out there and give it a shot. 100% crits and 1400 additional mit would go a long way into finishing off a tough con.</FONT><BR>
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