How is your avoidance?

[Jeffmaster]

<DIV>Hi I'm curious to see how high a brawler can take their avoidance...</DIV>

[Microphage]

Self bufffed, defensive stance, around 71%.  I've seen it as high as 74% in some groups.  80% seems so far away...

[Jeffmaster]

<P>pretty good!!</P> <P>Is 80% possible</P> <P>as a rogue I can manage to get up to 60-65% I think</P>

[RyanTSi]

<DIV>self buffed with no potions im at 74.3 in def. highest i usually get when i tank in groups is 82%</DIV>

[arachnidor]

<P>82% is awsome...</P> <P>My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped.  It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points.  Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI?</P>

[JudyJudy]

<EM>Usually self buffed with standard equipment and no potions, I'm at 72.4%.  When in groups with TV (master I), I average between 74-75%.  HIghest I've ever been was 78% and some change.</EM>

[Kinless]

With TV I can get 74.7% right now, with my normal gear. Add  Potions, Dirge, Druids, etc buffs highest I have seen was 83.? % <div></div>

[Tamo]

<P>Highest I have been is 84%</P> <P> </P> <P>Dirge and Guardian FTW :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>thats in Def stance with TV and no potions</P>

[Microphage]

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> arachnidor wrote:<BR> <P>82% is awsome...</P> <P>My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped.  It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points.  Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI?</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV>The the effectiveness components of avoidance, mitigation, and resistance, are all based upon the level of the mob you are facing, but they are reported as what they would be if you were facing a white conned mob.  Your avoidance didnt really get worse, its just that the even con mobs are now  a level higher.</DIV>

[cptvimes]

<div></div>I'm curious what level the previous posters were... As a 56 Monk, I've not seen my avoidance much above the low to mid 50's solo. 80's!? That's pretty crazy.... Something to shoot for I suppose....<div></div>

[Cirth_Beer]

solo in def stance (adept3) i'm at 68.8% ( or 69.8 if i change my hooluk hat instead of the relic one)(lvl 70 in legendary (mainly claymore stuff) and a bit of fabled (relic and weapons) but i have a low agi : 280 while str/sta at 420+ and aa build is 4481sta and 44881 in int)<div></div>

[Bladewind]

<P>I self buff to 72-74 depending on what I have equipped.  In groups I have hit 80 or so.  I can imagine with a bard, warden (with dust storm), and guardian, one could hit 85ish.  It becomes pretty anelastic around 70-71.</P> <P>The defense bonuses from AAs in addition to t7 equipment, which has higher and mroe frequent defense mods compared to lower tier equipment, are responsible for the big increase in avoidance n t7 brawlers relative to lower tiers..</P><p>Message Edited by Bladewind on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:30 PM</span>

[Tauch]

In my tanking gear I'm at 71.5% avoidance.If I really, really wanted to, I could get to 77.3% by switching gear out and using agi hex dolls, agi potion, and agi food.But past curiosity's sake I don't think I would ever do that. =)<div></div>

[Gaige]

As a bruiser my highest solo is 77.8% I think, and 84% in a good group.  I need more deflection <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Traxor789]

<DIV>I got my 36 monk , with a troub and a dirge buffing me to 76.9%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and i can kill anything realy with the root mit increase-- this is with horable jewelry so agility isnt maxed but it is high</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> with potions im sure i could get it to 80% or higher</DIV>

[laatikko]

My highest in grp was 84.3% according to persona screen. I was missing 1 point from parry (had 419) but other than that i was capped and my race is human thou I can't remeber if i have any traits for it (prolly not). Some other race might be able to get 85%+ but dont think it's possible for me (yeah I know I don't know what other get as their traits, might not). Solo (without TV) I'm usually around 70-74% depending on gear/weps equipped. Pauzze <div></div>

[Mala-Shea]

<DIV>74.3% in my solo gear and M1 defensive stance</DIV>

[The Mo]

70-74% solo depending on how far I am in the level. <div></div>

[KazzySoJaz]

<DIV>Highest I have seen is 78 % in a nice group setup.  I have not even touched PoA yet on my Claymore though, so hard to tell what I can be capable of.</DIV>

[Gandelff]

<DIV>what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Gaige]

<DIV>Deflection, parry, defense and agility.  In that order.</DIV>

[KazzySoJaz]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Gandelff wrote:<div></div> <div>what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote><div><font color="#ffff00" face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">*** Stat / Skill - Effects ***</font></div><div> </div><div>10 Skill Points of Base Defense add  2.50% To Avoidance</div><div>10 Skill Points of Deflect add 2.00% To Avoidance</div><div>10 Skill Points of Parry add 1.5% To Avoidance</div><div> </div><div><div>10 STR  add ??? Power @ Lvl 70 ( Formula ??? )</div></div><div>10 STR  add ??? Damage @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? )</div><div>10 AGI    add 0.3% Avoidance @ LvL 70 ( Is This exponentially ? --> 100-200 ; 200-300 Effect smaller )</div><div>10 STA   add 50 Hit Points @ LvL 70</div><div>10 INT    add ??? Dmg to Procs @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? )</div><div>10 WIS   add 30-40 To all ResistsStolen from:  <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=15510" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=15510</a></div></div><p>Message Edited by KazzySoJazzy on <span class=date_text>09-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:27 AM</span>

[Perfidiou]

<P>I reach 76% avoidance solo without potions if I aim for it. but I usually switch out some gear to balance more and land around 74.6-75% self buffed, without potions.</P> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible.  I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.</P> <P>/shrug<BR></P>

[KazzySoJaz]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible.  I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.</P> <P>/shrug<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well technically 510 isnt the cap is it?</P> <P> </P> <P>(70*7)+starting stat = cap isnt it?</P> <P>Having said that though I doubt the small diff in starting agl on any race could make up for 1% avoidance *shrugs*</P>

[Perfidiou]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible.  I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.</P> <P>/shrug<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Cool stuff.<BR>

[Riktiktiche]

well my starting str as ratonga in 10 but dropping str below 510 drops mele skill damage so cap seems to be 510 regardless<div></div>

[laatikko]

<blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Perfidious1 wrote: <div></div>I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink: <hr> </blockquote>Cool stuff.<hr></blockquote> I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry. Pauzze<div></div>

[KazzySoJaz]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> laatikko wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Cool stuff.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry.<BR><BR>Pauzze<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Pauzze > All Monks</P> <P>*bows*</P> <P> </P> <P>I still have his profile set as my homepage [Removed for Content]...  No I am not a stalker, just using his eq2players profile as a reference for what I want to be when I grow up...</P>

[Perfidiou]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Cool stuff.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>was just 85% avoidance.</P> <P>must have been high or something   ...?</P> <P> </P> <P>... ? dunno?</P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote: <P>was just 85% avoidance.</P> <P>must have been high or something   ...?</P> <P>... ? dunno?</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>If you are at 85%+ avoidance I just want to see a screenshot of your defense skills and your stats, to see how its possible.</P> <P>I think being at 420 defense/deflection/parry and 510 agility is going to be like 84.8%.</P> <P>Just curious /shrug.</P> <P>If this link is current:</P> <P><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=207465102" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=207465102</A></P> <P>You're missing avoidance modifiers on your bp, your shoulders, your boots and your weapons.  I'm just wondering how you're able to break 85% with that gear I guess.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class=date_text>09-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:06 PM</span>

[Perfidiou]

<blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <p></p> <hr> Perfidious1 wrote: <p>was just 85% avoidance.</p> <p>must have been high or something   ...?</p> <p>... ? dunno?</p> <hr> </blockquote> <p>If you are at 85%+ avoidance I just want to see a screenshot of your defense skills and your stats, to see how its possible.</p> <p>I think being at 420 defense/deflection/parry and 510 agility is going to be like 84.8%.</p> <p>Just curious /shrug.</p> <p>If this link is current:</p> <p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=207465102" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=207465102</a></p> <p>You're missing avoidance modifiers on your bp, your shoulders, your boots and your weapons.  I'm just wondering how you're able to break 85% with that gear I guess.</p><p>Message Edited by Gaige on <span class="date_text">09-08-2006</span> <span class="time_text">12:06 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>what I was talking about was raid buffed during a dt raid. but it was 85% , not over. <div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <P>I reach 76% avoidance solo without potions if I aim for it. but I usually switch out some gear to balance more and land around 74.6-75% self buffed, without potions.</P> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>86% is over 85%.  Still waiting on the screenshot <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Illustrious]

Normally about 73% solo in defense and 82-83 ish on the rare occasion that im raid buffed as a tank, maybe able to squeeze 84ish if i swapped some differnt gear in etc but havent really felt the need.

[Perfidiou]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <P>I reach 76% avoidance solo without potions if I aim for it. but I usually switch out some gear to balance more and land around 74.6-75% self buffed, without potions.</P> <P>last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>86% is over 85%.  Still waiting on the screenshot <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>as I said, I was wrong. I was at 85% not 86% :robotsurprised:

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <BR>as I said, I was wrong. I was at 85% not 86% :robotsurprised:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Just show a screenshot of it, 85% is still almost impossible to reach unless you cap everything for defense.<BR>

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>Ive let mine fall by the wayside. I'm down to 65% self buffed solo in def stance. 67% if Im in a group with none of their buffs on me. I used to be able to get 72%. Ive been dropping AGI and deflection gear in favor of mit gear lately. Until they fix the avoidance problem, if they fix it, I'm not going to concentrate on it.</FONT></DIV>

[Perfidiou]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Perfidious1 wrote:<BR> <BR>as I said, I was wrong. I was at 85% not 86% :robotsurprised:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Just show a screenshot of it, 85% is still almost impossible to reach unless you cap everything for defense.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>will do. I'll screenshot every window there is for you, persona, paperdoll, adventure.</DIV> <DIV>raid tomorrow again, I'll see what I can get for ya :robotvery-happy:</DIV>