What's a good AA line for Monk?

[Maravis]

<DIV>  I just got my first point to put into one of my abilities and was wondering which one(s) would be the best to consider. I was leaning toward strength or stamina. I was told that Agi isn't really worth it, something about the amount of points needed to make a difference. Some people told me Int for the crit% later but what benefit do I get from the early points? Some people will say wisdom for no other reason than PVP.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  The only problem with Str is most of the attacks in that line require no weapons and I'm not sure if there is a strength cap or how much it will benefit, so I'm leaning toward Stamina since being harder to kill is always a good thing.</DIV>

[Bozidar]

What server is your toon on?

[Vulking]

Go stamina.  Staying alive longer is always a good thing.  If it doesn't work for you, you can always respec your AAs, ( the first respect is free, with each following one being progressively more expensive).

[Xxooo-Coav]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maravissi wrote:<BR> <DIV>  I just got my first point to put into one of my abilities and was wondering which one(s) would be the best to consider. I was leaning toward strength or stamina. I was told that Agi isn't really worth it, something about the amount of points needed to make a difference. Some people told me Int for the crit% later but what benefit do I get from the early points? Some people will say wisdom for no other reason than PVP.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  The only problem with Str is most of the attacks in that line require no weapons and I'm not sure if there is a strength cap or how much it will benefit, so I'm leaning toward Stamina since being harder to kill is always a good thing.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>For PvP, I dont think I would advise the STR line. The stats you get from weapons I think outweigh the DPS.</P> <P>If you want pure dps, no matter what... then STR 4-4-8. STA 4-4-8, and INTT 4-4-8 is the way to go.</P> <P> </P>

[Ameniel]

<DIV>STA is good to start with, some good abilities. I like the debuff of mantis star, even though it does crap dmg.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ive seen some t7 brawlers go STR & INT line for dps, but generally not until you got enough AAs to make it worth it.</DIV>

[Maravis]

  Thanks for the replies. I'm going to start down the STA line. At least I get an immediate benefit even if it is only a few health points. While INT may be good to respec to in the future it seems that those first 4 points don't help at all and would feel like a waste at this point.

[artophwar]

<DIV>For PvP I use 4/8/8/1 STR and 4/4/8/4/8 INT but ofcourse once they get rid of the ranged double attack the str line will be more than useless. The only reason I use it is because once anyone realises they are fighting a monk they tend to try and run away or kite you.</DIV>

[Xxooo-Coav]

<P>PvP is total different world, and one should really think about what AAs to take in the PvP world.</P> <P>I still have too few AAs to work this, but my idea was to go INT 4-4-4-4-8 and STA 4-4-4-5-8 (the Int bottom line is nice for durability, and the Sta bottom line is great for that instant attack).</P> <P>I wish i had the AA to test those..  = )</P>

[Jeradim]

I mainly duo.  I started down the INT line to get to the melee crits, now I'm leaning towards STA but haven't totally ruled out STR yet.  I think I will go STA as I am lacking in that department.  I can always respec later.

[KazzySoJaz]

<div><blockquote><hr>Jeradim wrote:<div></div>I mainly duo.  I started down the INT line to get to the melee crits, now I'm leaning towards STA but haven't totally ruled out STR yet.  I think I will go STA as I am lacking in that department.  I can always respec later.<hr></blockquote>If you go 4-4-8 str and 4-4-8 int you will be doing some nice dps.  The debuff from the str line is pretty nice coupled with the crits, and 100% haste =  nice dps.</div>

[Jessyme]

<DIV>I am currently planning to do the wis and int lines to the end of each.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Opting for Int due to crits, parry (think it is parry) and the mit at the end.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Going for Wisdom because I tend to be the MT for my group and I struggle to hold group aggro with our single group taunt and single group PBAoE.  The Wis line gives me some nice saves in addition to some extra AE attacks which I sorely need.  I use Crane Sweep (AoE knockback/stun +damage) all the time and love it (slow recast though).  Crane Twirl (passive buff that grants a chance to do PBAoE damage) must be used with caution as it will do damage to nearby non-aggro mobs causing adds, but is a great way to do extra damage to the entire encounter.  I have not hit the end of the wis line yet, but I am looking forward to the 100% chance to do damage to all targets in range (sounds PBAoEish).    </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That's my path for now as keeping aggro is my main goal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Quijana</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[selch]

Did INT 4-4-8-8-1 Now going for STA which will be 4-4-4-5-0

[WhispyKrakoMiso]

Deleted<p>Message Edited by WhispyKrakoMiso on <span class=date_text>10-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:01 AM</span>

[WhispyKrakoMiso]

<div><blockquote><hr>KazzySoJazzy wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Jeradim wrote:<div></div>I mainly duo.  I started down the INT line to get to the melee crits, now I'm leaning towards STA but haven't totally ruled out STR yet.  I think I will go STA as I am lacking in that department.  I can always respec later.<hr></blockquote>If you go 4-4-8 str and 4-4-8 int you will be doing some nice dps.  The debuff from the str line is pretty nice coupled with the crits, and 100% haste =  nice dps.</div><hr></blockquote>Please correct me if i'm wrong, i was wondering wouldn't it impossible to have the str line double attack aa and int line crit hit aa both working at once since one must be barehanded and the int line must have fist weapon equipted? </div>

[Gungo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> WhispyKrakoMiso wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KazzySoJazzy wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jeradim wrote:<BR> I mainly duo.  I started down the INT line to get to the melee crits, now I'm leaning towards STA but haven't totally ruled out STR yet.  I think I will go STA as I am lacking in that department.  I can always respec later.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>If you go 4-4-8 str and 4-4-8 int you will be doing some nice dps.  The debuff from the str line is pretty nice coupled with the crits, and 100% haste =  nice dps.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Please correct me if i'm wrong, i was wondering wouldn't it impossible to have the str line double attack aa and int line crit hit aa both working at once since one must be barehanded and the int line must have fist weapon equipted? <BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That only skill that requires a fist wpn is the second ability "Eagle Strike" crits are independant.</P> <P>Here is a question? since they are raising the haste cap would the Str AA line become viable again for a monk. Since more haste equal more double atks. Also you may need to see what subclass AA's are in EoF. I would wait till EoF before i waste some cheap AA Respecs.</P>

[WhispyKrakoMiso]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gungo wrote:<div></div><p>That only skill that requires a fist wpn is the second ability "Eagle Strike" crits are independant.</p> <p>Here is a question? since they are raising the haste cap would the Str AA line become viable again for a monk. Since more haste equal more double atks. Also you may need to see what subclass AA's are in EoF. I would wait till EoF before i waste some cheap AA Respecs.</p><hr></blockquote>Ahh no wonder, seems like int line's not bad either. <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[Kiori]

<DIV>A question for the more experienced monks,  I have started down the stam line and will get mantis bolt to lvl 8,  is the following skill that improves deflection worthwhile,   also is the Int line skill,  parry worth putting points into?,   I have not seen mention of them in reccomendations,  if they are not so good now,  would they be more worthwhile with the coming changes( or most likely to early to tell? ).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A note,  I tend to solo and group,  will possibly starting raiding soon( which is possibly why deflection and parry are not reccomended as monks dont tank epics much? )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance</DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">For a Raider Monk I would recomend the Mantis line or the Monkey line for a Questor Monk the Crane Line gives us a much needed AoE. </font></font></font><div></div>

[JerradDoomaxe]

I've currently gone INT 4/4/8 and working upto STA 4/4/8. Once I have this I will add the 4th tier of both lines and see how that helps out, I like to tank but want to keep DPS so this seemed a good way to go.

[Illustrious]

<HR> I've currently gone INT 4/4/8 and working upto STA 4/4/8. Once I have this I will add the 4th tier of both lines and see how that helps out, I like to tank but want to keep DPS so this seemed a good way to go. <P></P> <DIV>Shoolon - Monk of Splitpaw</DIV> <P></P> <HR> <P>This is what i went with for ages, 4,4,8,8 int and sta. pretty good dps and the best tanking. i have since gone for more dps aa line with int,sta and wis as thats pretty much all im used as on raids, but with forthcoming changes to avoidance etc in EoF then i may well be paying another 10pp to spec back to it.</P>

[Kiori]

<DIV>Thats the set up Im looking at, though Im going down the stam line first,  then Int,    I was thinking of doing the stam, wis and int dps thing( only using fist of the slashing claw and soul spur at the moment,  so way under the 118dr needed to go weapons instead of fists ),  but this only seems worthwhile if I seriously start raiding,   I often tank for friends,  unless a friend is on with his Paladin.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Side note,  I am seriously jealous of the number of aoe's my friends Paladin has.</DIV>

[Deathspell]

<div></div>I want to go INT and STA lines, but I'm not sure yet if I should complete or not any of those lines.INT 4-4-8-8-0  (maxed melee crit and maxed parry)STA 4-4-8-8-0  (maxed piercing dmg and maxed deflection)Seems pretty solid, or would it be better to complete one or both lines with Mantis Leap and/or Eagle Shriek?Mantis Leap is only 10 seconds and Eagle Shriek seems so situational and might hardly be needed when you've a healer.And what about?INT 4-4-8-4STA 4-4-4-4WIS 4-4-5<p>Message Edited by Deathspell on <span class=date_text>10-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:26 PM</span>