Monk vs Dirge DPS

[Gykon]

Disregarding the benefit from buffs, just for the sake of purse DPS parse, who does more DPS a Monk or a Dirge? Assume, both have gear of comparable quality.Thanks for any insight.<div></div>

[Pins]

Monk.

[Kadon_Najena]

<DIV>On most raids I personally out dps the Dirges by 200-300.</DIV>

[Rrawl]

Monk, by far. Especially if the Monks' int he dirges group and eating up that yummy DPS buff. (=<p>Message Edited by Rrawl on <span class=date_text>07-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:59 PM</span>

[Nolomite]

<P>My duo-partner and I recently made a monk/dirge combo <U>specifically because</U> the monk benefits so very much from the dirge buffs - your '<EM>Disregarding the benefit from buffs'</EM> parameter completely obfuscates this issue at hand. You might have asked that we 'disregard the combat arts' when making our comparison - it wouldn't make the comparison any worse.</P> <P> </P> <P>BTW, I'm the dirge. Without running a parser, either of us would state that I'm out DPSing him as we duo (by about 25%, +-) but he's tanking from a defensive stance. Put him in the offensive stance while someone else tanks, throw up all my Dirge combat buffs, and we're nearly equal. That's with equal levels, equal equipment, equal skill books. That's also with me taking turns off to throw debuffs during combat, but with him fighting through.</P> <P>If you put the monk in DPS-only role and the dirge in DPS-only role - definitely not a real-world situation - then I would bet my monk friend would out DPS-me. But for that to happen I'd have to accumulate enough brain damage to believe my Dirge existed for DPS and not for debuffing. Take away the buffs/debuffs and the dirge is just a severly gimped assassin.</P><p>Message Edited by Nolomite on <span class=date_text>07-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:58 PM</span>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<P>I think he meant "disregard the group buffs" in that don't count adding to the groups DPS as part of the dirge's personal DPS.</P> <P>Obviously we are comparing a personal DPS class that has little group boosting... and a huge group boosting class with some decent personal DPS.</P> <P>In that sense... personal DPS-wise, the Monk wins out.</P> <P> </P> <P>I play both a Dirge and a Bruiser... my Bruiser (especially with DPS AAs) beats the living snot out of my dirge's DPS. However my Dirge increases 6 peoples DPS at a time... and while parses might not show that specifically (unless you parse without the dirge, and then parse with the dirge and see how much the group's total DPS went up).</P> <P>All in all, this should answer the OP's question. If your playstyle is to be a personal DPSer, and aren't too keen on buffing others as a job, then Monk is a better choice.</P>

[Gykon]

Thanks for the repsones, they were helpful.Just for the record, and this is addressed mostly at nolomite's arguments, I was askign about personal DPS w/o being buffed, because I wanted to factor in personal my-own-[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-kicking-ness into the equation of which to proceed with.Having now played both to 20, which I realize is not 70, I am personally perferinf the stand and deliver DPS tank, to the debuff and give everyone bonus dps scout.I have a 20 dirge so respect the contribution, it was just not what I was looking for in this question. <div></div>