Claw Reversal AA underrated?

[Darthor]

<div></div>I keep seeing the discussions about flat DPS comparison using the STR AA line, but never mention the defensive benefit of claw reversal.  At 12% with 8 points, is this not by far the best avoidance boost in our AA's?  Not to mention this is quite a bit of additional damage from riposts.  How does it compare with the defense/parry from the other lines?  Maybe I am missing something here, it just seems like an overlooked part of STR due to to the DPS debate.  <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Darthornn on <span class=date_text>05-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:04 AM</span>

[MadBarman]

Its not 12% It starts off at 1.5% but then only increases by 0.5% to a maximum of 5% <div></div>

[Darthor]

Ahh thanks for the clarification!  My other question still stands though, how does this compare to the respective defense/parry AA in the other lines?<div></div>

[Kasai]

Im pretty sure that hte Deflection from the sta. aa line would be hte best avoidance. Not sure where claw reversal fits into the other ones but i would say:DeflectionParryClaw rev.DefenseAll maxed.<div></div>

[Sslarrga]

<DIV>All of them should give "generally" the same amount of avoidance increase.  With the riposte providing a bit less because it also deals some damge.  However due to the mechanics of the game Deflection and Parry are better choices than Defense for a Brawler.  For other classes Defense is much more important to them than it is to us.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The flat out %chance to riposte, parry, etc that various classes get in their AA lines is a bit of a mystery atm.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>From the looks of it, these are tested before any other avoidance skills, thus giving them a bit of a boost in how much actual benefit you receive from them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That said, after the proc changes, I find the strength line entirely uninteresting.  You have the potential to get almost as much avoidance from weapons as you do from maxing out riposte on the Str. line.  Not to mention greater flexibility, stats, power, hps, resists, etc...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Prior to the proc change there was actually a reason to take the strength line.  Now?  Not really.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And don't even get me started on how another fighter class can not only increase their DPS by a greater amount than brawlers can, but they can also increase their tanking ability by a greater amount than brawlers can.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Who knows, maybe they'll get the subclass AA's right in the expansion.  Somehow I'm guessing that "other" class will get catered to more yet again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>Croaker</DIV>

[wesbarlow]

<DIV>just another idea (and i haven't been a monk forever but i'm learning...) riposte only really counts when you're facing the mob correct? So personally, I think this would only add avoidance if you're tanking a single mob. If you pulled a group of 2 or more you can't always get all the mobs directly in front of you..especially if it's a group of 3 -4. Correct me if i'm wrong but deflection and parry effect you avoidance from all directions including your rear and flanks. Again correct me if i'm wrong but this is the way i understood that it worked</DIV>

[BenYitzh]

Yes, the riposte only works when you're facing the mob, Claw reversal gives a parry bonus when you're being attacked from any other quadrant.<div></div>

[wesbarlow]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BenYitzhak wrote:<BR>Yes, the riposte only works when you're facing the mob, Claw reversal gives a parry bonus when you're being attacked from any other quadrant.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Cool, thanks for the clarification. i didn't go down the str line as i was going for a more well rounded dps/tank monk and went sta/int. but i thought that riposte only effected the front but i must've missed the parry to the other sides