A clearer explanation to proc rates...

[selch]

<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=101455#M101455" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=101455#M101455</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Weapon and Spell proc rates use the base delay or casting time. Haste and Casting Speed bonuses will not hinder actual proc rates per weapon swing or spell cast.</DIV> <P></P> <DIV>===========================<BR>Jared Sweatt<BR>EverQuest II Spells and Combat Designer</DIV></DIV>

[NerissaRavenHeart]

Appreciate that link. Sums up a lot of speculation.Masuimi<div></div>

[selch]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> NerissaRavenHeart wrote:<BR>Appreciate that link. Sums up a lot of speculation.<BR><BR>Masuimi<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yeah especially the ones like "Your haste is super high, you proc a lot" ones...</P> <P> </P>

[NerissaRavenHeart]

Lol I hear ya. If I don't know 100% completely about something I usually am hush hush bout it. hehehe. I just sit back and observe.<div></div>

[zabor]

<blockquote><hr>selch wrote:<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>NerissaRavenHeart wrote: Appreciate that link. Sums up a lot of speculation. Masuimi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Yeah especially the ones like "Your haste is super high, you proc a lot" ones...</P><P> </P><hr></blockquote> Well, they are right, aren't they? 100% haste = doubled proc rate from autoattack.<p>Message Edited by zaboron on <span class=date_text>04-26-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:20 PM</span>

[selch]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> zaboron wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> selch wrote:<BR> <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> <BR>NerissaRavenHeart wrote:<BR>Appreciate that link. Sums up a lot of speculation.<BR><BR>Masuimi<BR><BR> <BR><BR> <HR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P><BR>Yeah especially the ones like "Your haste is super high, you proc a lot" ones...</P><BR> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Well, they are right, aren't they? 100% haste = doubled proc rate from autoattack.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Nope, read it again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[zabor]

Well i am not a native english speaker so i might have missunderstood it.The way i read it, proc rates are calculated from the base weapon speeds / casting times and not affected by haste. So for example a 10% proc on a 1.5s delay weapon would have an effective proc chance of 5% per hit, even if the character is buffed to 100% haste and 0.75s delay

[selch]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> zaboron wrote:<BR>Well i am not a native english speaker so i might have missunderstood it.<BR>The way i read it, proc rates are calculated from the base weapon speeds / casting times and not affected by haste. So for example a 10% proc on a 1.5s delay weapon would have an effective proc chance of 5% per hit, even if the character is buffed to 100% haste and 0.75s delay<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No matter how much haste you got proc chances does not change except base speed / base CA casting time. so 5% chance of 0% haste does not convert to 10% chance with 100% haste.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It will be still 5% chance, and there is still chance you never proc one time in a twenty minute fight with 100% haste. Hence you swing more and use more rolls for sure.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sslarrga]

<DIV>It's doesn't change your proc rate per swing, however it does change your proc rate per minute.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5% chance to proc will proc on average 1 time per minute.  With 100% haste you'll proc on average 2 times per minute.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then again with a 3.0 delay weapon, you're attacking 20 times in 1 minute vs 40 times in 1 minute with 100% haste so the proc chance remains the same.  Only counting primary hand attacks for this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone with a parser can verify that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>Croaker</DIV>

[SageGaspar]

<div><blockquote><hr>selch wrote:<div> <blockquote> <hr> zaboron wrote:Well i am not a native english speaker so i might have missunderstood it.The way i read it, proc rates are calculated from the base weapon speeds / casting times and not affected by haste. So for example a 10% proc on a 1.5s delay weapon would have an effective proc chance of 5% per hit, even if the character is buffed to 100% haste and 0.75s delay <hr> </blockquote>No matter how much haste you got proc chances does not change except base speed / base CA casting time. so 5% chance of 0% haste does not convert to 10% chance with 100% haste.</div> <div> </div> <div>It will be still 5% chance, and there is still chance you never proc one time in a twenty minute fight with 100% haste. Hence you swing more and use more rolls for sure.</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>No, you're misreading it."Haste and Casting Speed bonuses will not hinder actual proc rates per weapon swing or spell cast."He's saying that if you have a 10% chance to proc per swing with an unhasted weapon, you'll still have a 10% chance to proc per swing with a 100% hasted weapon. The 100% hasted weapon swings twice as fast, so you should get twice as many procs with 100% haste.</div>