Log in

View Full Version : The truth about haste and weapon delay...


Gaige
04-10-2006, 09:27 PM
<blockquote><hr>Aeralik wrote:<div></div>The only cap on weapon speed is having your max haste at 100%.  So a 1.2 weapon doesn't hit any mythical minimum delay barriers as some might believe. <hr></blockquote><div>So.  There you go.  I've been guilty of believing in the much hyped .8 delay cap also.  Apparantly though I was mistaken.  So this is good to know.  1.0 is the fastest weapon I've seen so with max haste you could hit every .5 seconds.</div><div> </div><div>Pretty crazy.</div>

selch
04-10-2006, 09:32 PM
<div></div><div></div><div>Yeah, read that too...</div><div> </div><div>Well, personally, I don't really calculate it on shorter fights that I usually do that a healthy human eye can't notice the difference with 100% haste.</div><div> </div><div>Makes me think:</div><div> </div><div>a. Hard to find good rating with speed + procs on it  (procs are what it counts in that)</div><div>b. Two same rating weapons without procs, would kill at same time beside faster one gets you hit more with riposites.</div><div> </div><div>So if not proc'd, what's the point?</div><div> </div><div>PS: Not counting ofcourse other equipment procs, but still they usually activate when you got hit.</div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by selch on <span class="date_text">04-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:39 AM</span></p>

Harpax
04-10-2006, 09:38 PM
<div></div>I could have sworn it was .8 as well, mainly from a dev post many many moons ago. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  (no, not from Gaige :p )

NerissaRavenHeart
04-11-2006, 12:02 AM
<div><span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<blockquote><hr>Aeralik wrote:<div></div>The only cap on weapon speed is having your max haste at 100%.  So a 1.2 weapon doesn't hit any mythical minimum delay barriers as some might believe. <hr></blockquote><div>So.  There you go.  I've been guilty of believing in the much hyped .8 delay cap also.  Apparantly though I was mistaken.  So this is good to know.  1.0 is the fastest weapon I've seen so with max haste you could hit every .5 seconds.</div><div> </div><div>Pretty crazy.</div><hr></blockquote> That sounds very lovely, insanely nice. That would rock.Hey Gaige, what contributing Spells/Gear do you/we as monks have that will boost Haste, I believe I'm pretty sure of the spells, but I'm trying to figure out the combination in getting 100% haste. Just a related question that would relate to attack rate.Masuimi</span></div>

Almeric_CoS
04-11-2006, 12:07 AM
<div>This is exceptionally well-timed news.  I was about to order an ironwood great staff because it has the higher delay, but was very sad I would be stuck with lousy combat animations.  Now I can safely get the ironwood bo without fear of wasting haste <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

Gaige
04-11-2006, 12:11 AM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>NerissaRavenHeart wrote:<div><span>That sounds very lovely, insanely nice. That would rock.Hey Gaige, what contributing Spells/Gear do you/we as monks have that will boost Haste, I believe I'm pretty sure of the spells, but I'm trying to figure out the combination in getting 100% haste. Just a related question that would relate to attack rate.Masuimi</span><hr></div></blockquote><p>We get haste in our group haste line, our offensive stance, and our self haste for hp buff.</p><p>You can also use one haste proc weapon and one item with a haste effect.</p><p>All of that will stack towards 100%.</p><p>As does other class haste buffs.</p>

NerissaRavenHeart
04-11-2006, 12:20 AM
<div><span><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>NerissaRavenHeart wrote:<div><span>That sounds very lovely, insanely nice. That would rock.Hey Gaige, what contributing Spells/Gear do you/we as monks have that will boost Haste, I believe I'm pretty sure of the spells, but I'm trying to figure out the combination in getting 100% haste. Just a related question that would relate to attack rate.Masuimi</span><hr></div></blockquote><p>We get haste in our group haste line, our offensive stance, and our self haste for hp buff.</p><p>You can also use one haste proc weapon and one item with a haste effect.</p><p>All of that will stack towards 100%.</p><p>As does other class haste buffs.</p><hr></blockquote>So it's the Offensive stance and what are those Haste items that your referring too?</span></div>

Kronadin
04-11-2006, 12:00 PM
<div></div>The only "easy" to get haste item would be the flowing black silk sash. I still use it because I can't find anything else with haste that would be appropriate for my level. :smileysad:

diamondma
04-11-2006, 03:54 PM
haha and people used to call me crazy and talk all kinds of crap when i said this. lol way to be those guys. <div></div>

NerissaRavenHeart
04-11-2006, 06:48 PM
You are crazy Sagara, your a crazy tiger. You've said it yourself in the past. =PMasuimi<div></div>

diamondma
04-12-2006, 02:17 AM
not for awhile. i always said there is an increase in dps past .8 <div></div>

NerissaRavenHeart
04-12-2006, 06:15 PM
Just messin' with ya. =)Masuimi<div></div>