Advice on weapon upgrade

[SwissArmySh]

<div>I have just turned lvl 40 and bought myself 2 Pristine Imbued Cedar staffs, very nice.  But I also noticed that I can now use Archons Great flail.  My first response to seeing this weapon was "Omg I must have it!" So... I bought it hehe.</div><div> </div><div>I am now faced with a bit of a dilemma.  I haven't yet attuned Archons because after having a long think and a good compare it seems that my dual wielders would have better damage output....</div><div> </div><div>Anyone have any advice on this who are familiar with these weapons?  Should I stick with my wielders and sell the flail?  If it's just down to preference due to the damage output being very close then I'll keep em all :smileyhappy:  But I'm not sure at the moment what would be better...  Like, does the Fabled tag on Archons flail have any impact on fighting higher lvl mobs?</div><div> </div><div>Cheers </div>

[Junaru]

The staves will out damage the great flail plus combine they have much better stats over all and a proc.As for the fable tag making it work better on higher level mobs. I'm not sure but I can tell you with my T5 crafted I have no problems hitting even orange con mobs.<div></div>

[Rrawl]

<div></div>If you're worried about stats go with those dual wielders. The flail, well, do you like the way it looks?

[SwissArmySh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Rrawl wrote:<div></div>If you're worried about stats go with those dual wielders. The flail, well, do you like the way it looks?<hr></blockquote><p>Heh yeah, I think it looks mean :smileymad:  It's got that "It would really hurt" look that flails have :smileyvery-happy:</p><p>I'm guessing that the damage output would be very similar and there's not a huge difference in stats so I might just keep it for flavor.</p>

[Junaru]

<b>Pristine Imbued Cedar Stave</b>s22 AGI18 STR66 Health72 Power57.6 Damage Rating149 - 277 Proc<b>Archons Great Flail</b>12 INT8 AGI12 STR14 WIS67 Health69 Power54.9 Damage Rating<font color="#ff3300"><b>Staves over Flail</b></font>14 AGI6 STR3 Power2.7 Damage Rating149 - 277 ProcSorry but for a Tank or DPS you are losing out alot on the most important stats. And if you don't think so, ask yourself how much you would pay for a ring or braclet with 6 STR and 14 AGI. Plus the fact that this has a higher damage rating and a proc that goes off nearly once a fight while killing solo mobs and 3 to 6 times on small raid mobs.<div></div>

[SwissArmySh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Junaru wrote:<b>Pristine Imbued Cedar Stave</b>s22 AGI18 STR66 Health72 Power57.6 Damage Rating149 - 277 Proc<b>Archons Great Flail</b>12 INT8 AGI12 STR14 WIS67 Health69 Power54.9 Damage Rating<font color="#ff3300"><b>Staves over Flail</b></font>14 AGI6 STR3 Power2.7 Damage Rating149 - 277 ProcSorry but for a Tank or DPS you are losing out a lot on the most important stats. And if you don't think so, ask yourself how much you would pay for a ring or braclet with 6 STR and 14 AGI. Plus the fact that this has a higher damage rating and a proc that goes off nearly once a fight while killing solo mobs and 3 to 6 times on small raid mobs.<div></div><hr></blockquote><p>Aye, that's exactly how I worked it out.  I was just wondering if there was any other factors involved such as ripostes (I know they were changed somewhat) or if there was a penalty for strikes in your offhand(like EQ1)</p><p>From my EQ1 experience, duel wield weapons of the same sort of quality always looked better on paper but in practice things where different due to riposts, damage bonuses, offhand hit rate penalty and the effects of haste and it's cap.  I couldn't be certain of the mechanics in this game that's why I asked.  If it's as simple as working out the sum of the stats and damage rating, then great, that's easy enough :smileyhappy: </p>

[Junaru]

The only factor that "might" make the flail better is if fable items have a better chance to hit a high con mob. This is one I don't think anyone has parsed so I just don't know.EQ2 DW is not the same as EQ1. Your main and off hand swing seperate/independant.Riposte, well some say you take a little more with DW over 2HW but it's so little the offset of DPS out weighs it.Sad thing is you see this alot where a crafted item is flat out better then a fabled item on the same tier. SOE dropped the ball when they made crafted items but have plans to fix it with KoS. Basically your T7 crafted gear will only be a little better then T6 crafted gear but T7 fable items will see the same size jump over T6. This will put T7 fabled items above crafted items where they should be. I personally think this was the main reason behind SOE added 10 levels with KoS. The only other way to fix it was to nerf crafted items. And with the amount of players running around in crafted items that would flat out [Removed for Content] alot of people off. Making T6 fable items better doesn't help since mobs are built around the gear in game and if you raise it up too much your gear makes you too powerful.Yeah I know completely off topic but I'm bored today so.. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[x0rtrun]

Quality doesn't have any bearing on hit rate as far as i know, and i seem to recall dev talk on the subject around the combat update.Isn't it still the case though that you'll need legendary or better to hit named mobs? Or is it treasured? Pretty sure i couldn't hit some mobs in roost with crappy treasured items.<div></div>