Freeport is a dump - need good reason not to betray. Advice on class selection please

[Mentla]

Hi guys, Lot of threads covering which os better, and I understand that Monks are defensive and bruisers offencsive, but what are the quantifiable differences?  I know Monks get heal for them and others, do bruisers?  And what is this mez/fear thing? Final way of quantifying it - a Monk and a Bruiser, equally well equipped.  If, for example, the TOUGHEST mob a Bruiser can solo a herioc^^^ who is 5 levels below, can the Monk also take the same mob? Posting this on Bruiser forum as well as they have done away with Brawler boards  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Pnaxx]

<P>Mentla read these for starters...</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=25450" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=25450</A></P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=10366" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=10366</A></P> <P>Good stuff in there. Plus, if you can live in Freeport full time, then you at least think about Bruiser...I for one hate it there....not as much stuff being sold and the place is a confusing dark dump!:smileywink: Here are some comparisons I found in my search of which to play myself...</P> <P>1. From I I have seen, Monks and Bruisers are 2 sides of the same coin and they can pretty much take on same Mobs, Bruisers will kill it faster though probably. </P> <P>2. Bruisers rely on thier CA's which are very powerful compared to Monks, but their restart timer is twice as long as Monks so Monks can recycle through their CA's much faster.</P> <P>3. Haste on a Monk can get to 100% which means when you are on auto attack, you are really able to deal damage without spending mana and inbtween CA's.</P> <P>4. Mez/Fear are great and that sets Bruisers apart...Monks get several stuns though.</P> <P>5. Monks have invis and Fein Death and Bruisers only have Fein Death....but you could have an Iksar Bruiser and get some invis from that race...3 minutes with 30 min retimer.</P> <P>but read the post I showed there are some great conversations tween Bruisers and Monks and Mobs...it will show alot.</P> <P>5. In general, Bruisers are a bit more powerful but less balanced overall. And they always seem angry.:smileywink:</P> <P>I just picked a Monk after an exaustive research session..</P>

[Mentla]

I'm worried that I'll make the decission just based on location.  I actualy feel relaxed when Buggy calls back to Willow Wood at the end of a hard days adventuring.  Spent all last night sneaking arounf Queynos for the descovery xp then called back to FP.....very depressing. Bruisers do sound heller tough though. <div></div>

[Colossaltitan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pnaxx wrote: <P>1. From I I have seen, Monks and Bruisers are 2 sides of the same coin and they can pretty much take on same Mobs, Bruisers will kill it faster though probably.<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-I'd have to disagree, a good monk can solo a ^^^ a few levels lower than him, or a yellow ^^? at the most.  Bruisers are capable of soloing 64^^^'s(@Lvl60) if done properly.</FONT><BR>2. Bruisers rely on thier CA's which are very powerful compared to Monks, but their restart timer is twice as long as Monks so Monks can recycle through their CA's much faster.<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-So true, Another great thing about a monk is even though the CA's are less powerful, you don't rely on them so much when your hasted 100%</FONT><BR>3. Haste on a Monk can get to 100% which means when you are on auto attack, you are really able to deal damage without spending mana and inbtween CA's.<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-Making Monks the better raid DPS.</FONT><BR>4. Mez/Fear are great and that sets Bruisers apart...Monks get several stuns though.<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-How many is several? Bruisers get 4, 3 of them being 4second stuns, the other a 2 second stun.</FONT><BR>5. Monks have invis and Fein Death and Bruisers only have Fein Death....but you could have an Iksar Bruiser and get some invis from that race...3 minutes with 30 min retimer.<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-Monks also get group Feign Death, but Invis totems are very cheap too.  Mez/Fear line on the Bruiser is great, I wouldn't trade it if I had a choice.</FONT><BR>5. In general, Bruisers are a bit more powerful but less balanced overall. And they always seem angry.:smileywink:<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>-The monk community is > than the bruiser community IMO.  They also have all the cuties <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</FONT><BR>I just picked a Monk after an exaustive research session..<BR><FONT color=#ff6600>Can't blame ya there...</FONT><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>But why is Freeport a dump =(?<BR><BR>Either one you choose, you definetly WILL enjoy.<BR><BR>Don't let your deciding factor be your hometown though.  Remember, you can move to Maj'Dul any time you want, and spend all your time their + Call of Ro takes you straight to Maj'Dul, leaving the only thing for you to do in Freeport or Qeynos is pickup things from peoples homes off broker, and tradeskill.<BR><BR>Hope that helped <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>

[Pnaxx]

<DIV>Colossaltitan,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You bring up a good point about being able to do everything in the neutral hunting zones and only going to Freeport for a quick juant. That was something I was thinking about recently. The Bruiser is more my style of play and the one thing I was unhappy about was living in Freeport...but I started thinking that I don't really need to spend much time there at all.....but I did rememeber that Freeport has the least amount available stuff to by from players at brokers than was in Qeynos.....what would you say to that issue? I can still be turned to the dark side:smileywink:<BR><BR></DIV>

[Colossaltitan]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pnaxx wrote:<BR> <P>Colossaltitan has brought up a great point that confirmed something I had been thinking about after my decision to play a Monk because of my dislike of Freeport. I really don't have to spend any real time there...just enough to get food, drink, armor and I am off again to play with my friends from Qeynos!<IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 border=0> The Bruiser is a subclass I really am leaning towards except for the Freepeort thing...but I may be persuaded "again" to come to the dark side.</P> <P>One question....when I was a resident of Freeport b4, i noticed that the range of goods from brokers seemed inferior to what was offered in Qeynos.....would you Freeportians agree this day and age?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Your welcome, And yes I would still agree with the one thing you questioned.  Their seems to be either more Qeynosian residents (on all servers), or just more Qeynosian crafters, and more stuff gets marketed.<BR><BR>Although, if your in a guild, Guild Bank + Alt on Qeynos side again solves the issue of having problems with the two different cities.<BR><BR>If your leaning towards Bruiser, I'd go Bruiser and spend as little time as possible in Freeport(since you dislike it).<BR><BR>Being a 60 Bruiser, 55 Alchemist I am only in Freeport for two things. 1) Tradeskill. 2) Buying Fulginate Ranged Weapons in EFP.<BR><BR>I do my broker checking, buying, selling, banking, housing all in Maj'Dul Courts or my house their (The Maj'Dul housing has very reasonable prices).<BR><BR>Goodluck, hope this helped. <BR><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=10707" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=10707</A>

[Mentla]

Where is this Maj place?  Is it on one of the packs?  And does it have a broker? <div></div>

[Pnaxx]

Guild Bank + Alt? What does that mean? My other alts, if they are still around, are in a guild...or were, maybe they got kicked for inactivity...but I would be let in again. So how does that help a char in Freeport?:smileywink:

[Apathyloves]

Maj'Dul is part of Desert of Flames expansion.Play a monk and a necro.  Freeport is a dump.  It could have been egotistical and gaudy and glorious and completely over the top.  But, instead, the colors , the people, the architecture, the lighting, the entire place is just depressing.  My necro is an avid shopper and the qeynos market with its extra 20% fee is often better than the freeport broker.As for bruiser vs. monk, I like driving a stick shift, clicking the buttons, anything to keep me in the game so I chose monk.Nope

[Kichigai Daidoji]

<P>from what i gather they are both pretty balanced </P> <P>i personally play a monk, and tho i have never dueled a bruiser, i put out pretty good DPS and think it would be a pretty balanced fight.</P> <P>i picked a monk just because the class appealed to me as opposed to a bruiser. the zen like warrior as opposed to the barroom brawler but thats just me. </P> <P>also freeport is a dump, its all brown and grey and sooty, reminds me of Chicago.</P>

[Apelord]

I would suggest moving to Qeynos,  the difference between Monks and Bruisers, while big in some areas, is not imbalanced in my opinion.  I actually started a Monk(now 46) and abandoned my Bruiser (44) because Freeport became a ghost town on my server.  What is imbalanced between the two is the difference in markets/populations.  I can sell stuff, buy stuff, get stuff crafted, find groups far easier etc. in Qeynos.  Having played in both cities I can say that Qeynos IS easier.  Lots of subtle differences in the layout of the cities (such as the broker location in the tradeskill instances is by the door in Qeynos versus down four flights of stairs in Freeport), Antonica and the dungeons in it are nowhere near as dangerous as the Commonlands (little stuff like not having 3-ups mixed in with normal mobs all over, no long named camps for first HQ), TS is similarly much easier than Nektulos although by that time you can just go to TS and skip Nek.  <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you want a social play experience, you pretty much need to w/Monk to have access to other players.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ShinmaRyche]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <BR>Posting this on Bruiser forum as well as they have done away with Brawler boards  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ffff00>Qeynos is too green, and too [Removed for Content] happy. My first character was a Kerra that betrayed Qeynos because I wanted to slap the crap out of every NPC just about. I love my bruiser. Its my feeling that Qeynos holds your hand too much at lower levels, and the city zones are way-too-frigging-big. Fallen Gate is one extreme meat grinder, and you will learn your class quickly, or die othen. Although i havent been back in since the change..</FONT><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by ShinmaRyche on <span class=date_text>12-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:42 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentla wrote:<BR>Where is this Maj place?  Is it on one of the packs?  And does it have a broker?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Maj'Dul is the city in the Deserts of Flames expansion pack.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There are Brokers for both Qeynos and Freeport (both charge 40%), Menders, and Banks there, but you have to earn your right to use them. In order to prove that, you have to make yourself KOS to 2 of the 3 factions, which can change around the entire city through player interaction. The city isnt' split into sectors, so you're always at danger of getting attacked by the other 2 factions if players of those factions change the guard towers to thier allignment. It's also a level 50+ zone anyway.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, as for the difference between monks and bruisers, well everything has already been covered, but I'd like to throw in my comment that the Monk class is the only Fighter class who gets Invisibility.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guardians, Berzerkers, Paladins, Shadowknights, Bruisers... The only way they can use invisibility is through player-made potions and totems, or if your race has a special ability like the Iksars mentioned in an above post.</DIV>

[Jezekie]

<div></div><hr>But why is Freeport a dump =(?<span><blockquote><div></div><hr></blockquote></span><div></div>Because our "uber" overlord thought it was kewl to design his city as slums, rather then keeping in it evil. Someone ought ought to get him to hire a better architect.

[Carna]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <SPAN></SPAN> Because our "uber" overlord thought it was kewl to design his city as slums, rather then keeping in it evil. Someone ought ought to get him to hire a better architect.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Ummmm, I'm telling. You're so going to get your fingernails pulled out when you get home.</P> <P> - Sarim Rael of Xev<BR></P>

[Colossaltitan]

Alt + Guild bank...<BR><BR> <DIV>Basically meaning, you can transfer $$, Items from Qeynos to Freeport without the downtime.<BR><BR>Also, Maj'Dul (as said a few times above) is the expansion pack allowing you to level past 50 aka "Desert of Flames."</DIV>

[Pnaxx]

<DIV>Could my alt from Qeynos mail money to Bruiser in Freeport real easy? </DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>You can't mail money or items between cities.</DIV>

[Pnaxx]

<DIV>Hmmmm...thats bad news! :smileymad:</DIV>

[Crillpi]

You can't mail easy, but you can send them throught the guild bank, as ppl has been mentioning. If both of your characters is in the same guild you can put the stuff in the bank with your qeynosian abd then pick it out with your freeportian... This way also goes faster then to mail... <div></div>

[Pnaxx]

Oh ok....are you all talking about those shared bank boxes? I have used them for fellow Qeynosians but never like this way.....if that works than np at all there. Another concern I have with Freeport is that, if it's a ghost town, quests within Freeport will be a bummer probably. Anyeways...good to see the money transferes seem ok if it's what I think it is.:smileyvery-happy:

[Colossaltitan]

<DIV>Shared Personal Bank only works within city (meaning, freeport toon to your freeport toon, or your qeynos toon to your qeynos alt).<BR><BR>Goodluck on your Iksar Bruiser, you wouldn't regret it whether you went Monk or Bruiser, both are awesome.</DIV>

[Crillpi]

No, I don't mean the shared bank, i mean the guild bank, if you right click the banker there is an option to enter guild bank. With the guild bank you can transfere between qeynos and freeport. <div></div>

[Pnaxx]

<P>Ahhhh....tis clear now!:smileywink: Very nice....and thank you all for your  help...it has been a very fun informative journey to figure things out.......at this point after weighing everything I should wind up as an Iskar Bruiser on Lucan server. See ye all there whoever playes on that server. </P> <P>Btw...do you all know where I can find something on Iskar traits at whaT levels you get to choose from? Thanks again.</P>

[Junaru]

One more thing not talked about.. Everyone calls Brawlers, Monks regardless if they are Brusiers or not. Atleast as a Monk you are called by the proper name.. <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>