Monks post revamp - A few questions

[ubercheer]

<DIV>I just came back to the game after taking a break for a while.  Now with all of these combat changes, i'm considering which class i'm going to make.  I'm really disappointed with what they've done to rangers...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've got an SK alt that I found to be fun pre-nerf, but now they're just...garbage in my opinion.  How are monks VS bruisers in tanking ability/dps, also, how are monks vs other classes with DPS/tank ability?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance</DIV>

[Corv]

I'm a guardian who has been parsing fights with a monk guild-mate who is the same level as I.  He does about 50% more damage than me when *he's* tanking and I'm going all-out DPS.  When we swap roles my DPS about halves and his goes up by around 10-15%.  (His doesn't go down as much when tanking because he can DW, while I have to use a sword/board)  He consistently competed DPS-wise with a well-equipped assasin and flat out blew bards and chanters out of the water.  Monk DPS is still damned good.   It's so good they do great holding aggro too.  (better than a Guardian on single targets, although perhaps a bit worse on multiple targets)  Their tanking ability is just fine in normal exp groups.  Nobody really notices a difference.   Brawler DPS may be in for some nerfing though, but who knows. <div></div>

[bonesbro]

I can't come close to the DPS of my Illusionist friend when he decides he really wants to make things dead <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[zabor]

yeah our dps can't be compared to chanters. they have ae nukes for more than 1k. oh yeah, and unlimited mana.scouts and mages finally do more dps than monks, and it feels quite right as it is now.

[diamondma]

our dps is still [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] good. im 53 with ad3 halcyon blessing i do about 250-300 dps consistantly in groups mainly setup for casters. ive hit up to 550 acouple times in melee groups on 56^^^'s where i normally xp. most of the casters i group with are havin a hard time doin very good dps cause the mobs die soo quick now. <div></div>

[Xxooo-Coav]

<P>It all depends on what spells/skills are available within a certain fight.</P> <P>I was tanking Windsisters in PoF on Frida with a wiz, ranger, assassin, and 2 healers. Some fights, the assassin would be around 400dps, or the ranger would be 350ish, and the wizard (if Ice Comet was available) would be around 400dps as well. I would always hang in there around 300dps. I was the only consistent dps, as any one of the 3 would drop to 200 or a bit lower. If we had adds, or I was stunned (which did happen often), dps would drop to mid 100s. However overall, I thought my DPS was good for tanking.</P>

[henn]

<DIV>I am lv 53 i have a couple fabled and all adpt 3 and master 1 spells the only classes i have trouble beating our wizards on single encounters, warlocks on group encounters and conjurors with there dam 500+ DPS pets anything else i usually beat</DIV>

[Prufro]

<span><blockquote><hr>hennet wrote:<div>I am lv 53 i have a couple fabled and all adpt 3 and master 1 spells the only classes i have trouble beating our wizards on single encounters, warlocks on group encounters and conjurors with there dam 500+ DPS pets anything else i usually beat</div><hr></blockquote>In other words, if you want to play god mode where you're an awesome tank and have insane dps, go monk.</span><div></div>

[Lunah]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Prufrock wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> hennet wrote:<BR> <DIV>I am lv 53 i have a couple<FONT color=#ffff00> fabled and all adpt 3 and master 1 spells</FONT> the only classes i have trouble beating our wizards on single encounters, warlocks on group encounters and conjurors with there dam 500+ DPS pets anything else i usually beat</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>In other words, if you want to play god mode where you're an awesome tank and have insane dps, go monk.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Ahem it is not the class making him as you call it "god mode" it is the fact he is way high end equipped my 33 monk with 2 legendary armor pieces, one legendary weapon and mostly adept1's no adept 3's is not God! Dont try to start a grudge match against an  entire class based on one person who has all top end gear and spells. The majority of players dont have that..and no we are not gods. Limited heals, get hit way more then pre CU, and oh yeah bruisers our evil counterpart are still a tad bit stronger than us. And my hubby pally same level as me is truely just as good of a tank, so dont try the only brawlers can tank now stuff. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So if you are looking for GOD MODE try another class please. :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>