Tried an tripple up lvl 55 epicx2

[Tilane]

<DIV>had a Templar and warden for rest Gaurdian and 2 wizzies in the group ....just wanted to test it , mob is inc </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i am equiped in fabled/legendary</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"one shotted" </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>gaurdian took 3 hits and went down</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sigh ...</DIV>

[Rohlstu]

Encounters like this really need to do a /feedback or /bug on it.  While they tried to rework a lot of encounters, some things may have been overlooked.

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>So you had ONE group of level 50s trying a level 55 group x2?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm pretty sure you were supposed to get your butts handed to you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Remember, one of the big goals of the revamp was for con info to be meaningful.  Even with 2 full groups, and orange groupx2 should be extremely difficult or nigh-impossible.</DIV>

[Rohlstu]

Almeric is right...this con system IS more meaningful.  I misunderstood you to say you had to groups...sorry.  Yes...a x2 means, get 2 groups.  However, I do stand by saying if you do get 2 groups and mobs are still one-shotting, submit some feedback for it.

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>Well, I look at it this way...he one-shotted a monk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yeah, we have the highest hitpoints now, but we still have low mitigation.  An orange-con epic mob is going to burn through our higher avoidance without any problem, which leaves our paper-thin armor to protect us.  Feedback if ya like, but I don't think that needs a bug report - I think it's working exactly as designed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That's why the Guardian could take 3 hits.  If you're going to try an orange-con epic, a Guardian will probably always be the top tank choice, but all he's doing is prolonging the pain on what is most-likely an impossible fight.  No way can healers hold up the mana output long enough to take away that mob's hitpoints.</DIV>

[Rohlstu]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Almeric wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well, I look at it this way...he one-shotted a monk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yeah, we have the highest hitpoints now, but we still have low mitigation.  An orange-con epic mob is going to burn through our higher avoidance without any problem, which leaves our paper-thin armor to protect us.  Feedback if ya like, but I don't think that needs a bug report - I think it's working exactly as designed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That's why the Guardian could take 3 hits.  If you're going to try an orange-con epic, a Guardian will probably always be the top tank choice, but all he's doing is prolonging the pain on what is most-likely an impossible fight.  No way can healers hold up the mana output long enough to take away that mob's hitpoints.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I do agree in regards to the balance of avoidance and mitigation, but only said to send some feedback mainly because of the last minute rework of combat changes on Beta to Live.  It is possible somethings were overlooked and it's better to have it confirmed than nothing done at all.</DIV>

[zabor]

We tried a lvl 55x2 in Majdul - one of the faction mobs.MT group consisted of pala, me(monk obviously), warden, templar, coercer and troub. Pala went down in 2 secs. 2nd try, i tanked, we took him down to 50% when someone broke mezz, the adds went crazy on the healers and we wiped.

[Tilane]

<DIV>lvl 55 was yellow , not orange ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and we where just trying it out </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but getting 1 shotted , prevents the mob from being tanked by a monk , cu was supposed to fix that </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i did feedback it </DIV>

[Nemi]

<DIV>Doomsquall, a level 35+++ x 2 epic in Thundering Steps hits for 1800 damage per normal swing...didn't last long enough to see what his special hits for.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sa'meria]

Same thing here, excepted I lasted 2 hits, one for 3.6k and the other 3.8k, pally who started tanking when down in 3 hits of 2k each., but we were jsut goofing off too. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Secret-P]

<P>First thing i did when combat changes went live, was go with my warden partner to have a go at grumzod the exile in zek! (41 ^^^ 2x) We had been looking for the [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] thing for months, and when my friend found it up we were happy. But man, can you say OWNED lol. I was not one shoted or anything like that, but warden regen simply could not keep up. </P> <P>Later on, we tried an epic x2 55 in maj dul (with more ppl) and it brought me to the floor in 2 hits hehe. Granted only one healer so we didnt expect to win, but we certainly didnt expect it to floor the whole grp in a couple of combat rounds!</P> <P>Having said that tho, me and the warden are duoing 54 / 55 heroic stuff in mag easily. </P>