Monks get no counter attacks?

[WinterAnar]

<DIV>I remember reading a SoE description of monks and it said something about "smooth effecient counter attacks" or something like that.  Then I just looked at the skill lists for Monk / Bruiser and saw that Bruisers get counter attacks... But didn't see any for Monks.  Did I miss it or do they not get one?</DIV>

[Swordmage]

My interpretation of that phrase is that we are effective riposters (which we seem to be).

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Counterattacks arn't all what it's cracked up to be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My berzerker ends up *ENGAGING IN COMBAT* anytime he's just running through an area and an agressive monster attacks me, all because of a counterattack buff he had up at the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway. Yeah we're better at reposting, and soon enough they'll change it so that we can do so at any angle, instead of just facing an opponent from the front.</DIV>

[WinterAnar]

<DIV>Well seeing how I thought ripositing was counterattacking... ummmm... what exactly is it?</DIV>

[Swordmage]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> WinterAnarth wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well seeing how I thought ripositing was counterattacking... ummmm... what exactly is it?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>There is the Bruiser combat art that causes the bruiser to reposte every attack (assuming Retaliation was what you were looking at) and there is the generic reposte skill, which gives us a <STRONG>chance</STRONG> to reposte each attack.</P> <P>We just listen to more Santana than they do so we're so smooth.</P>

[WinterAnar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Swordmage wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><BR>There is the Bruiser combat art that causes the bruiser to reposte every attack (assuming Retaliation was what you were looking at) and there is the generic reposte skill, which gives us a <STRONG>chance</STRONG> to reposte each attack.</P> <P>We just listen to more Santana than they do so we're so smooth.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That was the skill, however I looked at the bruiser CA pics from test and see that it no longer does that.  So I guess only Zerkers have counter attacks after the revamp.  And thanks for the info!</P> <P>Seeing how I already have this going in the forum here... Does it seem to you that Monks will be a bit better at tanking post revamp than Bruisers?  Cause seeing how their supposed to be better tanks post revamp and I love avoidance tanking, I decided to make one... But am having my head spin trying to decipher all the info out there and determine who seems to be the better tank.<BR></P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>A reposte is where you strike your opponent before they have a chance to hit you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It's possible to damage an NPC who attacked you because of this, but this wouldn't engage the mob in combat by itself because it's considered a natural defense, and you did not take any damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A Counterattack is when you attack an opponent back after he hits you first. You take damage and you damage them back.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For whatever reason, if a mob gets hit by a counterattack, it counts as engaging the opponent in combat, so it is a minor inconvenience.</DIV>

[WinterAnar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>A reposte is where you strike your opponent before they have a chance to hit you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It's possible to damage an NPC who attacked you because of this, but this wouldn't engage the mob in combat by itself because it's considered a natural defense, and you did not take any damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A Counterattack is when you attack an opponent back after he hits you first. You take damage and you damage them back.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For whatever reason, if a mob gets hit by a counterattack, it counts as engaging the opponent in combat, so it is a minor inconvenience.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Ahha!  I'm used to a counterattck being a riposite, where you intercept the enemies hit and instead hit it and it doesn't hit you.  That was a counterattack in FFXI, so in this game it hits you and you hit it back.  Ok cool.</DIV>

[Manopow]

<P>"<A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=183865" target=_blank><SPAN><FONT size=3>WinterAnarth</FONT></SPAN></A>"  ----------------------------------------</P> <P>"Seeing how I already have this going in the forum here... Does it seem to you that Monks will be a bit better at tanking post revamp than Bruisers?  Cause seeing how their supposed to be better tanks post revamp and I love avoidance tanking, I decided to make one... But am having my head spin trying to decipher all the info out there and determine who seems to be the better tank."</P> <P>-----------------------------------------------------</P> <P>  If every thing goes accrding to the plan, after the combat revamp, Monks should be slightly better at avoidance tanking then bruisirs but have slightly lower DPS.  Bruisirs should be the opposite, slightly higher DPS and lower tanking ability. <BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Manopow on <SPAN class=date_text>08-26-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>07:29 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Manopow on <span class=date_text>08-26-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:29 AM</span>

[Morgrimson]

<DIV>Pronunciation: ri-'pOst<BR>Function: <I>noun</I><BR>Etymology: French, modification of Italian <I>risposta, </I>literally, answer, from <I>rispondere </I>to respond, from Latin <I>respondEre</I><BR><B>1</B> <B>:</B> a fencer's quick return thrust following a parry<BR><B>2</B> <B>:</B> a retaliatory verbal sally <B>: <A href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=retort" target=_blank><FONT size=-1>RETORT</FONT></A></B><BR><B>3</B> <B>:</B> a retaliatory maneuver or measure<BR>- <B>riposte</B> <I>verb</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>AKA you turn the attackers damage back on them never receiving damage in the first place. Counter attack is damaging the attacker after they have inflicted damage on you</DIV>