What is worth the DKP?

[stfields]

<DIV>When it comes to end-game raiding weapons.. what damage rating should I be looking for?  I see stuff dropping with 55.1 (2hander) (examining pre-buffs).  I currently dual wield prismatic (29.6) and a legendary (24.6).   Is there currently fabled stuff with better damage ratings than 29.6 or 55.1?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd like to save points for those knuckles with alacrity on them... just curious if there is anything worth getting before I see one of those drop.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for any info.</DIV>

[bonesbro]

The Ancient Combine Flail and the Royal Great Flail are both very good.  ACF is a tanking weapon, RGF is a DPS weapon.  <div></div>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>bonesbro wrote:The Ancient Combine Flail and the Royal Great Flail are both very good.  ACF is a tanking weapon, RGF is a DPS weapon.  <div></div><hr></blockquote>What he said, plus Sixta's Knuckles and Ancient Combine Knuckles is pretty much The weapons.</span><div></div>

[Morrolan V]

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3>There are many fabled 2 handers with the 55.1 damage rating - RGF, Sharlian Maul, Sandblasted Maul, Sparkling Greathammer, among others.  RGF is considered best due to its huge delay (3.8 sec) and great stats.  Here it is: </FONT><A href="http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Crush/tabid/122/ctl/SlideShow/mid/464/ItemID/94/Default.aspx" target=_blank><FONT face=Garamond size=3>http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Crush/tabid/122/ctl/SlideShow/mid/464/ItemID/94/Default.aspx</FONT></A><FONT face=Garamond size=3>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3>The highest damage rating I have seen on a single weapon is on the Prismatic Greatsword, which has a 59.2.  Of course, we can't use it.  :smileyindifferent:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3>We can achieve a higher combined <EM>rating</EM> than that with the prismatic (29.6) and Ancient Combine Knuckles (31.7).  Link: </FONT><A href="http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Fist/tabid/125/ctl/SlideShow/mid/466/ItemID/10/Default.aspx" target=_blank><FONT face=Garamond size=3>http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Fist/tabid/125/ctl/SlideShow/mid/466/ItemID/10/Default.aspx</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Gaige]

<DIV>IMHO there are six:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ancient Combine Great Flail</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Royal Great Flail</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ancient Combine Knuckles</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sixta's Knuckles of Mastery</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ironfist Knuckles</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hardened Plasmatic Cestii</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Those would all be worth the DKP.  Although, honestly, if you raid with a lot of bruisers, its better for the guild to get the bruiser the knucks first, cuz of brawl, while taking the 2Hs as a monk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My opinion of course.</DIV>

[sglant]

<DIV> <DIV><EM>Ancient Combine Great Flail</EM>  60.1dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Royal Great Flail </EM>60.1dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Ancient Combine Knuckles</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Sixta's Knuckles of Mastery</EM> 29.7dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Ironfist Knuckles</EM> 32.7dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Hardened Plasmatic Cestii</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dmg ratings I have seen listed above.</DIV> <DIV>They may be off due to a buff I may have had.</DIV> <DIV>I know my T5 rares are 24.6dmg rating each, and my Mudslingers arm is 55.1 (with a 1.7delay)</DIV> <DIV>I have heard over and over that the Royal Great Flail is the best DPS weapon available to monks (although I think Gaige likes the ACG Flail more).</DIV> <DIV>SKoM are nice for the haste proc.... I dont know much about the rest.. </DIV></DIV>

[zabor]

quiet purity increases your damage rating because of the +10%dps

[Dandeli]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sglanton wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV><EM>Ancient Combine Great Flail</EM>  60.1dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Royal Great Flail </EM>60.1dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Ancient Combine Knuckles</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Sixta's Knuckles of Mastery</EM> 29.7dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Ironfist Knuckles</EM> 32.7dmg</DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>Hardened Plasmatic Cestii</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dmg ratings I have seen listed above.</DIV> <DIV>They may be off due to a buff I may have had.</DIV> <DIV>I know my T5 rares are 24.6dmg rating each, and my Mudslingers arm is 55.1 (with a 1.7delay)</DIV> <DIV>I have heard over and over that the Royal Great Flail is the best DPS weapon available to monks (although I think Gaige likes the ACG Flail more).</DIV> <DIV>SKoM are nice for the haste proc.... I dont know much about the rest.. </DIV></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Those numbers are all off due to your buffs or what ever.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Great Flail is what you really want, but its also the easiest to get. Though everyone else will want it also.</DIV> <DIV>I want a hardened plasmstic just cause its not crush. The rest are all the same to me, grab two.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>XoXo</DIV>

[Reposa]

Here is what I use, the pictures were taken unbuffed.  Normally I Dual-Wield the Prismatic and the Crystal Fighting Baton.  I really haven't used the knuckles in a while.. just a preference.  For the most part I use the RGF, but on some raids like Arch Lich and King Zalak, I use the AoE stick.  I'm really hoping to get Sixtas', Hardened Plasmatic, Ancient Combine Knuckles and the AC Great Flail.  We all can dream, can't we? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/Reposado/EQ2_000353.jpg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/Reposado/EQ2_000352.jpg"><div></div>

[Icewolf99]

Great info but what drops each of these weapons? Or are any quest rewards? <div></div>

[Dandeli]

<DIV>ALl those off raid mobs, except the prismatic, which is a quest that requires you to kill raid mobs </DIV>

[Computer MAn]

All are dropped from lvl 50+ epic x4 mobs except  the Prismatic which is a reward for doing a series of quests from Lord Nagafen <div></div>

[Dandeli]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Morrolan V wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=3>We can achieve a higher combined <EM>rating</EM> than that with the prismatic (29.6) and Ancient Combine Knuckles (31.7).  Link: </FONT><A href="http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Fist/tabid/125/ctl/SlideShow/mid/466/ItemID/10/Default.aspx" target=_blank><FONT face=Garamond size=3>http://www.npuguild.com/ItemDatabase/Weapons/Fist/tabid/125/ctl/SlideShow/mid/466/ItemID/10/Default.aspx</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Dont forget that rating is 29.6 at Level 53, not at 50.<BR>That 59. whatever on the prismatic is at 53 also.<BR>If you compare a sixtas knuckles of master (29.5) to ironfist knuckles (27.5) at 50 they both have the same damage, so your really not having a higher damage rating, until the level caps are raised.<BR>

[Jenj]

As for weapons: <ul> <li>Royal Great Flail (Best DPS weapon b/c of proc, high damage, and slow delay)</li> <li>Ancient Combine Great Flail: if your tanking</li> <li>Most any fabled tier-5 cestii (e.g. Plasmatic Cestii): for crush immune mobs</li> <li>I wouldnt bother DKP'ing any other DW wep. I made the mistake of DKP'ing the Sixta Knuckles and their rated DPS (also using Prismatic Baton) is much less than a RGF</li> <li>Vemenous Pouch or any other range that procs: For the extra proc while meleeing</li> </ul> As for armor/items: <ul> <li>Any items with strength, haste, or attack proc.</li> <li>Examples: Manipulation Bracelet, Girdle of Conquering, Hardened Ornaments, Pugilist Leggings, Vulcan Bracers, Cryptic Tunic, etc.</li> </ul> Secondary Items to DKP <ul> <li>Any item that has in-combat health or mana regen.</li> <li>Good for long raid battles. E.g. Vox, Borxx, Meeting of the Minds, etc.</li> </ul> -Jenjer <div></div>

[bonesbro]

Nice list Jenjer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>