Yojimbo99
05-31-2005, 12:03 PM
<DIV> Well today we beat the prrxxvvvyyzzxx(or what ever the hell the name was of the evil meat spinner) and the eye in meeting of the minds instance and this tower shield dropped with the 20% haste on it ( not bad for a coffee table; make one hella knee board maybe /shrug) and got me thinking about the riposte % for tanking. I think I recall FamMan parsing about 5% solid in ripostes and was just curious as to how much haste is too much. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> For monks this doesn't seem to be too much a problem(maybe this post woulda have been better in the guardain forum but i'll be damned if im retyping it now(those who know me and my craptactular typing skills from the monk channel understand this)) being that we in general tank group encounters where extended battles are not an issue (rather we dont want them to be an issue) and ripostes do alot less damage than a raid encounter. So being maxxed hasted at all times plays to our favor ie: the faster we kill the better off we are for the most part.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> However is there a limit to haste even on a slower 2hndr when tanking that ripostes can become a serious factor and more to the point how does this efect not just the brawlers but other fighters as well. Maybe my math is screwy but a guard with say an fbss(<edit> haste on the sash is 15% if i recall but alrdy did numbers so bear with me please) and a 20% haste tower shield is 40% haste so for every 10 unhasted swings said guardian swings 14. Maybe this means lil but in a long dragged out raid i think this could come into play more. Using the shield , the fbss and the Made-Up Weapon of Might (<edit> for sake if i was wrong with the sash haste % assume this has 5% haste also) 1hndr with a 2.0 delay (number used for my ease of use) so unhasted one minute is 30 swings hasted 42 now the difference seems more there by even in 10 minute raid thats 300 vs 420; thats a hella lotta xtra swinging and if 5% is the about the number of base of ripostes that one recieves that can be one large [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] load of damage taken ( be easy here and say generic_raid_dude ripotses for 1k) that could figure to be the difference of 15 k vs 20 k plus in damage....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> So fire away here; like to see thoughts on this for group tanking raid tanking all of it ; besides been a bit dull in here lately</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Or im just looking into this too much cause its late and i cant sleep..in any case its all just disscusion that we might all learn something at this point ..also love to hear some thoughts from raid tanking types of all fighter classes and how they weigh in on the issue ..esp the number crunchers .</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rolangard Frostfist ; Slayer of Fairies </DIV> <DIV>toxxulia's favorite lvl 50 barbarian monk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>