Raid level monks, how are you parsing?

[Bur]

I'm interested in seeing how other monks are stacking up against their guildies on raids.  What are you parsing, who's parsing higher? THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO COME BRAG ABOUT HOW SWEET YOU ARE.  I really wanna know what you guys are pumping out. For the sake of providing information myself, here's some numbers from last nights Zek Raid wave mobs: (Using royal great flail) Wave 1: Warlock: 340 Shadowknight: 263 Myself: 238 Bruiser: 207 Berserker: 192 Wave 2: Shadowknight: 325 Myself: 311 Berserker: 219 Bruiser: 209 Warlock: 185 (He ran outta power) Wave 3: Warlock: 406 Myself: 319 Shadowknight: 285 Berserker: 231 (raged) Bruiser: 213 Your turn, perty please? <div></div>

[zabor]

wow. I'll link this thread next time a Shadowknight whines about his skills being broken.

[woo]

<DIV>are you tanking in those? those numbers seem high if your tanking..</DIV>

[Havann]

What encounter? Talking about epic mob parse's? or what?

[Sysiphus7]

<DIV>I dont think monks will be tanking these epic mobs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My roll in these raids is not to DPS... its to stun,stifle, and interupt the main mob...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Renal]

I just need to post in reply because it looks like you're owning Toten in the DPS department. So theoretically I should be equal with him! <div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sysiphus7 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I dont think monks will be tanking these epic mobs. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I do think monks will, since bruisers already do.  But we'll see what the combat changes bring.<BR>

[Bur]

<font color="#ffff66">are you tanking in those? those numbers seem high if your tanking..</font> Yes, of course i'm tanking /rolleyes. <font color="#ffff66"> </font><font color="#ffff66">What encounter? Talking about epic mob parse's? or what? <font color="#ffffff">To quote myself: "</font></font>I'm interested in seeing how other monks are stacking up against their guildies on <font color="#ff0000">raids</font>.".  And of course: " here's some numbers from last nights Zek Raid wave mobs:". <font color="#ffff66"> </font><font color="#ffff66">My roll in these raids is not to DPS... its to stun,stifle, and interupt the main mob... <font color="#ffffff">You know there's a slew of people who can stun, stifle, and interrupt better then us? Ahh, good to know any thread can still be derailed into a "MONKS CAN TANKZORZ?!11" argument. </font></font><font color="#ffff99"></font><font color="#ffff66"><font color="#ffffff"> </font></font> <div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Burem wrote:<BR><FONT color=#ffff66><FONT color=#ffffff>You know there's a slew of people who can stun, stifle, and interrupt better then us?<BR></FONT></FONT> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Like the slew of people who do more damage?  /rollseyes</P> <P>I understand if you don't want to tank epics, that's fine.  But to want to be pigeon holed into a damage doer when there are a multitude of classes better at it (and presumably moreso and with a greater variance come the cc); that I just don't understand.</P> <P>What I'd like to see is a legitmate and warranted need for offtanks in the end game, if SOE decides to move away from archetype tank balance.  That way there is an actual need for other fighters besides the MT.</P> <P>I just fail to see the fun in one MT being able to tank an epic and all the adds.  It also sucks when an entire raid essentially hangs on one toon.</P> <P>So whatever role we end up having in the revamped end game, I just hope its defined.</P> <P>I think we all know what I want personally, but if that type of balance just isn't feasible, I want something specific besides damage to be our forte.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[bonesbro]

<DIV>Burem, what are you using to parse those?  I used CombatStats while I was leveling, but it works poorly now that we don't get "You gain bonus xp for defeating this encounter" messages, and it only works on groups not raids.  I assume you're processing the logs later with another tool?</DIV>

[Bur]

Well, since that was a reasonable question i'll actually post in this thread again. www.thescoutsanctuary.com - Statalyzer You can have it monitor a log and show you the DPS for the fight right after it but it wont show you DPS during. <div></div>

[bonesbro]

<P>Hmm.  Statalyzer does sort of a poor job calculating DPS, unless they changed their algorithm.  It computes damage based on when you first attack till when you last attack, so if I waited until the end of a fight and dropped an Ice Comet I would get 2000 dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Still, it's better than what I've got, so I'll give it a try.  Thanks!</P>

[Bur]

Combatstats does the same thing. <div></div>

[bonesbro]

<P>Not quite.  CombatStats starts the timer when any member of the group first does a point of damage, or when a member of the group takes a point of damage.  When it detects that an encounter has ended it divides the total damage inflicted by a member by the duration of the timer.</P> <P>Source: <A href="http://www.combatstats.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight" target=_blank>http://www.combatstats.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight</A>=</P>

[Siberia2]

I don't know my actual DPS per parsing, but I can do usually around 60 - 70k on King Zalak, while a Warlock does 140k and a swash is 70 - 80k and Assassin and Brig are 100k or so. I use Ironfist Knucklers and Marrian Cudgel. I'll go ahead and log a fight or two tonight, see what's up. As far as tanking goes, I'm afraid to tank Epic, although I have tanked flower(arcowhat'sit in Feer). It's not really for me, no matter how ub3r a tank we may or may not turn out to be, I rather stay behind a mob <span>:smileywink:</span>. I think our DPS is just right as it is, too. Can't beat out a Scout that knows what they are doing, but can take a few more hits than they can! <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> <div></div>

[toten]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm.  Statalyzer does sort of a poor job calculating DPS, unless they changed their algorithm.  It computes damage based on when you first attack till when you last attack, so if I waited until the end of a fight and dropped an Ice Comet I would get 2000 dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Still, it's better than what I've got, so I'll give it a try.  Thanks!</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV> <DIV>if your doing that your obviously not trying to  see what your real dps is,anyone who would wait til end of fight and then  bust out  massive damage is a Fu*king [Removed for Content] , if u acualy start fighting  as soon as  target engaged it works fine:smileysurprised:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

[Mystiq]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> toten88 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm.  Statalyzer does sort of a poor job calculating DPS, unless they changed their algorithm.  It computes damage based on when you first attack till when you last attack, so if I waited until the end of a fight and dropped an Ice Comet I would get 2000 dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Still, it's better than what I've got, so I'll give it a try.  Thanks!</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV> <DIV>if your doing that your obviously not trying to  see what your real dps is,anyone who would wait til end of fight and then  bust out  massive damage is a Fu*king [Removed for Content] , if u acualy start fighting  as soon as  target engaged it works fine:smileysurprised:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I think he was just making a point about the rather large margin of error when using Statalyzer. Take some deep breaths...</DIV>

[Mattim]

Everyone should. OP had a simple question that was totally derailed for no apparent reason. How annoying since I was interested, even if it has *nothing to do* with the ability to tank!

[stfields]

<P>I'd swear my parser is broken (CombatStats).  I started using it earnest in the past week or so... and I'm normally in the "dps" group, and I outparse everyone (scouts and wizards, but I haven't been in group with warlock yet).  I think on Zalak, I was at 150 while others were at 120.  </P> <P>While my damage in the persona window was around 940, I figured that scout damage arts should do much better.  I don't have any of these "Royal Great Flails" or anything... I stick to imbued cedar cudgels and imbued augmented cestii. </P> <P>So, either my parser is broken... or monks do really good damage <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but will probably be nerfed <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <DIV>I got a pic somewhere to doublecheck those numbers.</DIV>