Piercing Skill Increase Busted?

[Salodor]

<DIV>Been using a cestii all day today and not a single skill increase in Piercing.  Anyone else having problems with skill increases?</DIV>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>Think you need cestus for piercing, cestii are slash.</DIV>

[bonesbro]

<span><blockquote><hr>Salodor wrote:<div>Been using a cestii all day today and not a single skill increase in Piercing.  Anyone else having problems with skill increases?</div><hr></blockquote> Have you seen any skill increases?  Prior to this patch, they were Slashing.  It is probably a bug that they now do pierce damage.</span><div></div>

[Salodor]

<DIV>Hmm come to think of it I don't think I had been.  Gonna buy some cheap cestuss and try those out and jsut use the Cestii's later and stick with wraps for now.</DIV>

[Tazdrag]

<P>I have been using Pristine tailored strengthened leather spiked cestus to keep my piercing skill up,</P> <P>Last week I made 50 and swapped weapons to the cestus to work on piercing skill and it would not update, bugged it and have not seen anything about it until Salodor's post</P> <P> </P> <P>I hope they fix it soon as I do not like being 14 skill points short of max</P> <P> </P> <P>Karakka</P> <P>50 Monk Lucan DLere</P>

[Winn]

<P>This has been in since LU#5.</P> <P>Now ALL fist-type weapons are based on our CRUSHING skill, regardless of their damage type.</P> <P>So using Spiked Cestus, Cestii, and Fist Wraps all use the crushing skill to determine their utility, and in turn raise your crushing skill.</P>

[Nemi]

<blockquote><hr>Winnoe wrote: <P>This has been in since LU#5.</P> <P>Now ALL fist-type weapons are based on our CRUSHING skill, regardless of their damage type.</P> <P>So using Spiked Cestus, Cestii, and Fist Wraps all use the crushing skill to determine their utility, and in turn raise your crushing skill.</P><hr></blockquote>I still get Slashing skillups from Cestii<p>Message Edited by Nemi on <span class=date_text>04-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:30 PM</span>

[Sawhe]

<P>I have had similar problems as mentioned above. I have also bugged this. I can raise my slashing but cannot raise my piercing. I have usually used a staff so my crush is normally maxed. I wish there was a way to tell which type the weapon is. I bought 1 cestus (or was it cestii? kinda forget) that came up as slashing on the broker and a different level one that came up as peircing. anyway there is a definate issue. another member of my guild has also had the same issue.</P> <P> </P>

[croman33]

<div></div>On my monk I'm weilding two Cestii's. One is a pristine tailored boiled leather that does slashing damage and the other is crude tailored boiled leather that does piercing damage (which is weird, they both have the same name except one is pristine). The pristine actually raises the slashing skill ( took Forever to raise up to 100 from 50 today), the other raises crushing skill. And they both have different graphics. So far I haven't seen anything that raises piercing, I hope they don't change it all around again so that I'll have to raise it up from 50, that'd suck. <div></div><p>Message Edited by croman3354 on <span class=date_text>04-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:44 AM</span>

[bonesbro]

It is a bug if any weapons raise either slashing or piercing skill.  Please /bug that in game with the exact name of the weapon.  All fist weapons are supposed to use the Crush skill to check to see if they hit and provide Crush skill raises. <div></div>

[croman33]

Just checked it after today's patch and both cestii I own are now slashing damage and only raise crushing skill now. Seems like it's all good to go now. I still wonder why we have piercing and slashing as skills still though, since we shouldn't be able to raise it with anything why have them?

[bonesbro]

All classes have all of the base skills.  They're leftovers from when we could use them.  In our case, as a level 9 fighter.  For many other classes, when they were a level 2 peon. <div></div>

[POX67]

Ah, glad I found this thread! Last night I bought Pristine Tailored Boiled Cestii and a Tailored Boiled Spiked Cestus. After 4.5 hours of fighting I didn't see one skill up in Slashing (45/113) or Piercing (62/113) which had me very worried! What I did find odd was that I could actually hit anything with those skills but I seemed to be doing normal damage, that would make sense if they are coming from the Crushing Skill. Another problem is that I am using Throwing Stars to pull, my ranged is close to maxed but I couldn't hit the ground if I tried. If I use Throwing Hammers I hit most of the time. I wonder if Throwing Stars are still using the slashing skill, any one got any experience with this? I know I could use Throwing Hammers but the stars are just cooler and the monk is all about image! <div></div>

[Neimhidh]

We don't keep base skills, I used to be able to use a shield and I lost my ability to wield 1H swords at level 10.

[POX67]

How about the thrown weapons like dagger, shuriken, are they still using the crush skill? As I said above I haven't had much luck hitting anything with the shurikens but the hammers seem to work fine. Weird. <div></div>

[Nemi]

<DIV>I still get slashing skillups from my T3 Pristine Tailored Boiled Cestii</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Uth]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Winnoe wrote:<BR> <P>This has been in since LU#5.</P> <P>Now ALL fist-type weapons are based on our CRUSHING skill, regardless of their damage type.</P> <P>So using Spiked Cestus, Cestii, and Fist Wraps all use the crushing skill to determine their utility, and in turn raise your crushing skill.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Aye definetly bugged, i made bug report and GM Carbon came. We checked all out, nothing, he sent the problem to the Development Team for further tests.</P> <P>I just can raise crushing, but nothing else, all fist weapons using the crushing skill now. I know it says it does "slashing" or "piercing" damage, but only crushing skill goes up, which really sux, cause i bought some nice piercing weapons before.</P>

[Gaige]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Uthar wrote:<BR> <P>Aye definetly bugged, i made bug report and GM Carbon came. We checked all out, nothing, he sent the problem to the Development Team for further tests.</P> <P>I just can raise crushing, but nothing else, all fist weapons using the crushing skill now. I know it says it does "slashing" or "piercing" damage, but only crushing skill goes up, which really sux, cause i bought some nice piercing weapons before.<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>That is intended.  The fact that we have slashing and piercing skills are holdovers from our fighter days.  Our to-hit roll is intended to be checked against our crushing skill.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The type of weapon affects the type of damage it does, but we always use our crushing skill for our to-hit.  They patched that in awhile ago.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, if you buy a cestus and you find that the damage being done is *not* peircing then definately /bug that, but you should no longer be able to raise the piercing or slashing skills, by design.<BR></DIV>

[Bladewind]

What is left that does slashing damage?  Cestiiii and cestuses (<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) both do piercing now...

[Gaige]

Cestii should do slash, if not /bug it, because they've fixed it numerous times.

[Bladewind]

<DIV>Last time I checked, my cestii were piercing (pristine imbued augmented).  I am pretty sure my combat messages read: 'you pierce a generic_mob_name for xxx damage.'</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the case that anyone knows offhand what his immunities are, I was doing zero damage vs the Rallosian Bouncer with them late last week.  I was able to do normal damage with imbued fulginate maces once I switched.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>edit - cut and paste can be a deadly foe</DIV><p>Message Edited by Bladewind on <span class=date_text>04-26-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:38 PM</span>

[Uth]

Aye Cestiis are piercing now, but all depend on crushing skill what really sux. Please SOE change that! Make all monk (fist) weapons crushing or let us use slashing and piercing again, whatever im glad if it works again.

[bonesbro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Uthar wrote:<BR> Aye Cestiis are piercing now, but all depend on crushing skill what really sux. Please SOE change that! Make all monk (fist) weapons crushing or let us use slashing and piercing again, whatever im glad if it works again.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why would you want it changed?

[Bladewind]

As of this morning, the cestii slash <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  (still use crushing skill, but do slash damage, which is perfect)

[Uth]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Uthar wrote:<BR> Aye Cestiis are piercing now, but all depend on crushing skill what really sux. Please SOE change that! Make all monk (fist) weapons crushing or let us use slashing and piercing again, whatever im glad if it works again.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why would you want it changed? <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Cause if i use Cestiis i wont hit anything cause my slashing and piercing skills arent maxed. Dont ask me why it doesnt take the crushing skill, but it is so, GM Carbon was here and he couldnt help after nearly 1 hour testing.</P> <P>I just use my staffs and batons meanwhile...</P>

[bonesbro]

I'm sorry, I misunderstood.  I wasn't aware you had a bugged weapon.  Please /bug it in game, and probably also post to the Items board.  All monk fist weapons are supposed to check the crush skill, though some inflict slash or pierce damage.

[Uth]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR>I'm sorry, I misunderstood.  I wasn't aware you had a bugged weapon.  Please /bug it in game, and probably also post to the Items board.  All monk fist weapons are supposed to check the crush skill, though some inflict slash or pierce damage.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Hmmm well i contaced SOE and GM Carbon came, after 1 hour testing nothing, he couldnt help and said he will send it to the SOE Development Team. </P> <P>btw if its a bugged weapon its not just 1, i had Cestiis's (yeah more), Adoberg Fist (which are piercing) and other piercers and slashers (fist weapons).</P>