Devastation fist

[node1]

<div></div>Picked up our new art tonight from the faction vendor, Devastation fist It's pretty good although has limitations, it can't be used on heroic or epic encounters. This would appear to make it completely useless and yes in a lot of situations it is, but against weaker group members such as down arrows or pets it sure lives up to its name. I've tested it a few times with hits ranging from 1.5k to a massive 5k+ it's very usefull for dropping pets fast I've found, and as such does it's job well (hardest hit in the game now?) <img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/574/649.jpg"> <div></div><p>Message Edited by node101 on <span class=date_text>03-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:00 PM</span>

[Bi]

wow. in a raid, with raid buffs this will seriously hurt :> <div></div>

[Gree]

Faction vendor?  Do you mean Hand of Marr where you can buy the new recipe books?  Forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but where is this NPC?  I'd LOVE to get this for my monk (lv 40 atm).  Thanks!

[Tully]

Yes please explain what this is.

[Gaige]

Yes, you have to complete quests in the Tomb of Night (3 I believe) for either faction to be able to buy this from their merchant in that camp.

[Khuds]

I do believe this is bugged. I purchased it and went to test it as well once I completed quest 3 of bloodlines. It is hitting for anywhere in between 1500 and 4600 damage on the few times I attacked using the ability. However if you examine it says it does 220 damage + 201 - 335  extra melee damage. <div></div>

[Tully]

<DIV>In that case, delete this post right now and never talk about it again.</DIV>

[SageMarrow]

LOL yeah, dont let them see you, travel in the darkness brother..

[Salodor]

<DIV>It's an instant kill attack is all.  For instance if you found a level 49 or 50 mob, and 50 yourself, that is not Heroic or Epic encounter with say 200K HP's and the attack hit (yes it can miss) it would do a magic nuke for almost 200K or whatever it would take to kill the mob.  Highest HP mob I have used this against so far has been for about 5,548 Magic hit.....jumped to #4 or 5 on Befallen so far and aiming for slot #1</DIV>

[Khuds]

Yes, I hopped a large number and my lvl 41 monk is now ranked #2 in highest damage from single magical attack on Lucan. It just seems kind of odd <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[kerra]

<DIV>I got this spell last night and its pretty awesome I hit for 9,194 damage putting me first in the server and 5th Worldwide. </DIV><p>Message Edited by kerra on <span class=date_text>03-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:00 AM</span>

[brow27]

A level 35 ability hitting for over 9000 damage? Hmm, doesn't sound like a bug to me, LOL <div></div>

[Gaige]

Its designed to instantly kill your opponent, as long as its a solo mob equal or lower level than you.  So no, it isn't a bug.  If you find a lvl 35 solo mob with 2,000,000 HP, then you'd hit him for that.

[kerra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> brow27 wrote:<BR>A level 35 ability hitting for over 9000 damage? Hmm, doesn't sound like a bug to me, LOL<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I dont know there are big down sides to this spell as well.   <p>Message Edited by kerra on <span class=date_text>03-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:22 AM</span>

[kerra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gage-Mikel wrote:<BR>Its designed to instantly kill your opponent, as long as its a solo mob equal or lower level than you.  So no, it isn't a bug.  If you find a lvl 35 solo mob with 2,000,000 HP, then you'd hit him for that. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well hate to bust your bubble bro but he was a lvl 48 Mob (I am 45) Oracle in EF ...Kill the healer first:smileyvery-happy:

[kerra]

Sorry about all the posts guys but wanted to let you know you are stuned for like 30 sec and if you get hit it seems that avoid is not an option you get hit for the full damage and I almost died in one shot as well.

[Siberia2]

It's indeed nice to see 5K+ damage fly over the head of an enemy, but this spell is far from useful in most situations.. It's on a 5 minutes recast, once used you can not use any abilities for 30 seconds, and it can only be used against solo mobs, or mobs that are not +, ++ in a group of 4 or more. ..Still fun, tho <span>:smileywink:</span> <div></div>

[kerra]

I always thought we should have some type of Iron Palm technique anyways.

[Nagasak]

<DIV>this monk ability is similar to D&D's Quivering Palm in its insta-death effect.</DIV>

[Kizee]

<DIV>Lame.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Starting to wonder why I played an assassin now.  The were suppost to be the masters of front loading damage (melee)...not monks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Something has to be bugged with this abiltity....none of the other classes have such a powerful abiltity.</DIV>

[kerra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kizee wrote:<BR> <DIV>Lame.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Starting to wonder why I played an assassin now.  The were suppost to be the masters of front loading damage (melee)...not monks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Something has to be bugged with this abiltity....none of the other classes have such a powerful abiltity.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>/Arevirrr plays the violin <BR>/hands a tissue to Kizee</P> <P>Why dont you go see what your new spell is before you start with all the "why did I make an assassin" stuff from what I hear its very impressive. </P>

[Kizee]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kerra wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kizee wrote:<BR> <DIV>Lame.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Starting to wonder why I played an assassin now.  The were suppost to be the masters of front loading damage (melee)...not monks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Something has to be bugged with this abiltity....none of the other classes have such a powerful abiltity.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>/Arevirrr plays the violin <BR>/hands a tissue to Kizee</P> <P>Why dont you go see what your new spell is before you start with all the "why did I make an assassin" stuff from what I hear its very impressive. </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I am just saying that they refuse to reduce assassins CA timers but give this abiltity to a class that does compairable DPS if not more. Assassinate is our biggest hit and its on a 1 hour timer and doesnt insta kill anything other than a grey... yours is on a 5 min timer and will insta kill any solo mob that is blue to you. Seems alittle unbalanced to me.</P> <P>I have looked at our abiltity... It is a 27% stackable haste (app4) that lasts 1 minute on a 5 min refresh. It is nothing to scoff at but its no insta kill either.</P>

[woo]

<P>i have an assassin, and i guarantee you i out damage my monk and other monks.</P> <P> </P> <P>oh and we (assassins) DO get a 1-hit-kills skill ...   so yes, you should read about your class before you open your mouth whining.</P>

[Kizee]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> woode wrote:<BR> <P>i have an assassin, and i guarantee you i out damage my monk and other monks.</P> <P> </P> <P>oh and we (assassins) DO get a 1-hit-kills skill ...   so yes, you should read about your class before you open your mouth whining.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Umm... yeah assassinate which has a set amount of damage AND is on a 1 hour refresh. That wont be 1 shotting even con/blue mobs.</P> <P>I swear that some people have a warped sence of balance.</P> <P>Assassins offer little to the group besides damage and SOE seems to be giving that away freely.</P>

[kerra]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kizee wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ffff00>Assassins offer little to the group besides damage</FONT> and SOE seems to be giving that away freely.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I really hope that you dont feel that way about your class because IMO you guys rock, if you do I would re-roll.  I have the best gear from head to toe all T5 rares down to the weapons and the satchel and I am out damaged by an assassin all the time. </DIV>

[Groovemeist]

<P>Funny... other than getting us to near the top magic hits on our servers this really does nothing.  It doesn't work on any mob that is ^ or ^^... no heroic or epic encounters.  So basically it only works on a mob we could kill in about 15-20 sec anyways.  This is just a fluff skill, it has very little purpose other than to [Removed for Content] off all the assassins who liked seeing their name in the top magic hits.  I don't see how people are seeing this as a useful skill and complaining that it is over powered, it isn't useful, nor really over powered.  It would have been nice if we had gotten something that was useful at least.  Now granted a lot of classes got crappy abilities, but some of them were decent from what I have seen.  </P> <P>Speaking of crappy skills, what is up with giving us a vampire lifetap as out mastery skill, it hits for around 150-200 and heals for like 80 with a 60sec reuse.  Very lame compared to a lot of the other classes skills.  Btw I'm a bruiser so I'm assuming monks get the same one as us.</P> <p>Message Edited by Groovemeister on <span class=date_text>03-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:13 PM</span>

[Gaige]

<P>Exactly.  Rangers get a haste spell, that's more useful than a 5 minute death strike that can only be used on solo mobs.</P> <P>All it really does is put us at the top of the magic charts and [Removed for Content] off everyone else.</P>

[Tully]

<DIV>Which is why I like it...GET ON GAGE SO WE CAN QUEST.</DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tully14 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Which is why I like it...GET ON GAGE SO WE CAN QUEST.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Oh yeah I forgot.<BR>

[Wiou]

can you get xp from solo mobs you insta kill?

[Tully]

<DIV>oh nos!! gage, the 1 star bandit has caught us again.</DIV>

[Gaige]

On a side note: 7,858 damage to a lvl 49 solo glacier bear in EF, lol.

[IvarIronhea]

<P>Out of curiosity, does this work on epic encounter NPC's who have no arrows?  For example, the standard 3 NPC encounter with no ^ involved.</P> <P>If that is the case, this skill does have a very useful aspect. Blow away the healer/caster then standard tank the rest. Especially good for when duoing or when in a small group.</P> <P>I would be sure to use it on the new NPC warlocks and wizards. :smileyindifferent:</P>

[Groovemeist]

No it does not.  If it is an encounter that is not meant to be killed by one player, then it doesn't work. 

[Maddogg218]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IvarIronheart wrote:<BR> <P>Out of curiosity, does this work on epic encounter NPC's who have no arrows?  For example, the standard 3 NPC encounter with no ^ involved.</P> <P>If that is the case, this skill does have a very useful aspect. Blow away the healer/caster then standard tank the rest. Especially good for when duoing or when in a small group.</P> <P>I would be sure to use it on the new NPC warlocks and wizards. :smileyindifferent:</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Put your curser over thetarget window. If it says this _heroic_ encounter is intended for a group of 3 or more, etc. Then it cannot be used on them. If there were 8 vv mobs that said heroic on it then we cant use it.<BR>

[Andn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Maddogg218 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IvarIronheart wrote:<BR> <P>Out of curiosity, does this work on epic encounter NPC's who have no arrows?  For example, the standard 3 NPC encounter with no ^ involved.</P> <P>If that is the case, this skill does have a very useful aspect. Blow away the healer/caster then standard tank the rest. Especially good for when duoing or when in a small group.</P> <P>I would be sure to use it on the new NPC warlocks and wizards. :smileyindifferent:</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Put your curser over thetarget window. If it says this _heroic_ encounter is intended for a group of 3 or more, etc. Then it cannot be used on them. If there were 8 vv mobs that said heroic on it then we cant use it.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>if this is really the case, then this spell is "teh suck"</P> <P>i (bruiser) can solo green 4-5 mob heroic encounters pretty well, so why the heck shouldnt i be able to instagib one of them?</P> <P>besides, how many non-heroic encounters are there these days?</P> <P>most solo (read: ungrouped) mobs are ^^, and the groups are either 2 ^ mobs, or 3-5 normal mobs, which also count as heroic.</P> <P>feel like i havent seen a non-heroic encounter since lvl 30 when i did turtles in EL.</P>

[Grabaan]

So far, this spell is good for two things: 1) Giving monks the chance to compete in the realm of magical hits (which is unimportant despite everyone constantly pining over appearing on the charts)  Sure, I'm number one on the chart for my server right now, but do I feel that makes me uber? Hell no. In fact, I could care less that I'm on the chart, but it sure means a lot to some people. 2) This attack is great for killing solo adds. Case in point: Rivervale. Lots of single, non arrow mobs running around there that can be quite annoying. Very satisfying to knock them out in one hit when they decide to add themselves to what ever group encounter you may be fighting. What it boils down to is this is an extremely limited attack which happens to spam a lot of damage under the right circumstances. We pay the price for this damage by becoming completely stifled from using additional attacks for 30 seconds, plus unable to use the attack again for 5 minutes. A high price to pay for an attack that has usefulness on roughly 10% of the encounters in the game. Ask yourself if your self worth is based on the flawed statistics of EQ2players.com, and then decide whether its really that big of a deal. Either way, I expect everyone will whine about it until we dissapear from the top 10 magical hits so that everyone can stroke their own egos. I'm off to go tank something ~ Peace <div></div>

[Sysiphus7]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Grabaan wrote:<BR><BR><BR>2) This attack is great for killing solo adds. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Perfect summary of what this spell can be used for... also harvesting in places where solo mobs "bug" you... just punish them and harvest.</DIV>

[CloakV]

<span><blockquote><hr>Gage-Mikel wrote:<p>Exactly.  Rangers get a haste spell, that's more useful than a 5 minute death strike that can only be used on solo mobs.</p> <p>All it really does is put us at the top of the magic charts and [Removed for Content] off everyone else.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote> Lol like thats anywhere near as good as a one hit 5 minute timer thats better than the assasins 50th level ability. Even if it was on a one hour timer like the inferior assasins 50th level ability its quite clearly still out of line at 35th level. Its a game imbalanced bug. Enjoy it while it lasts because no doubt it'll get fixed just like the Paladins mount that every non paladin whinged so much about disliked and though was unfair.  Personaly i don't give a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] what other players characters get  but theres about 95% of players who do. </span><div></div>

[Ghaleon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CloakVai wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> Lol like thats anywhere near as good as a one hit 5 minute timer thats better than the assasins 50th level ability. Even if it was on a one hour timer like the inferior assasins 50th level ability its quite clearly still out of line at 35th level. Its a game imbalanced bug. Enjoy it while it lasts because no doubt it'll get fixed just like the Paladins mount that every non paladin whinged so much about disliked and though was unfair.  Personaly i don't give a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] what other players characters get  but theres about 95% of players who do. <BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Actually haste is much better then a OMGICANKILLALAMESOLOMOBINONEHIT! spell.  Haste can carry over anywhere - it ups their dps on whatever they wanna kill heh.  How can you even begin to compare the two? 

[SageMarrow]

<P>when do you actually notice haste when you are not buffed out the wazoo with every type of haste available?</P> <P>9% you dont. you just sit back and assume its working.</P> <P>and the abilities werent meant for level 50 players = they were meant for level 30-45 to co-inside with the dungeon. </P> <p>Message Edited by SageMarrow on <span class=date_text>03-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:44 AM</span>

[Wiou]

<div></div>Lol, nice sig <a target="_blank" href="../view_profile?user.id=29868"><span>Sysiphus7</span></a><span></span><div></div>

[Maddogg218]

<span><blockquote><hr>CloakVai wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Gage-Mikel wrote:<p>Exactly.  Rangers get a haste spell, that's more useful than a 5 minute death strike that can only be used on solo mobs.</p> <p>All it really does is put us at the top of the magic charts and [Removed for Content] off everyone else.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Fixed that for you</span><div></div>

[Wiou]

Its just useful. overrated ? yes would it be better to not show damage? possibly <div></div>

[Groovemeist]

<DIV>I don't understand why all the scouts are so hostile about it.  You apparently don't understand that the majority of us don't care if they take it away, or change it, or whatever... because all it is, is a fluff that has very limited use.  If you add up all the circumstance that this is userful.. I might... might use it a couple times a day.  All we are saying is that we wish we had gotten something that was more useful similar to others abilities.  What do I care that I am number #1 for magic hit on my server... WOOPIE.  My virtual [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] got bigger.  </DIV>

[bonesbro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Groovemeister wrote:<BR> <DIV>I don't understand why all the scouts are so hostile about it.  You apparently don't understand that the majority of us don't care if they take it away, or change it, or whatever... because all it is, is a fluff that has very limited use.  If you add up all the circumstance that this is userful.. I might... might use it a couple times a day.  All we are saying is that we wish we had gotten something that was more useful similar to others abilities.  What do I care that I am number #1 for magic hit on my server... WOOPIE.  My virtual [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] got bigger.  </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I really enjoy it.  I yell POW when I hit something with it.  It makes me very happy.  I would be sad if it was changed into something less fun.  It's much better than feigning when a puppy tries to bite my bum.</DIV>

[ForceUs]

<font color="#ffcc66">Before the whining gets out of hand...</font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66">1. <font color="#ff0000">Devestation Fist</font> is for show. Once every five minutes, we can end a solo mob. This is largely useless in any encounter of substance. </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66">2. <font color="#ff0000">Devestation Fist</font> stifles the caster for 30 seconds, allowing him to use only his single-target taunt, <font color="#ff0000">Silent Threat</font>, for the duration. This consequence means that a monk who is tanking should not use it in most situations.</font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66">3. <font color="#ff0000">Devestation Fist</font> is not something for assassins, guardians, or any other class to get worked up over. It does not make the monk more powerful than other melee classes in encounters that matter. </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66">4. <font color="#ff0000">Devestation Fist</font> always inflicts damage equal to the mob's total hit points, plus 250 or so. This unfortunately skews the high magic hit numbers severely out of balance, taking credit for meaningful hits in meaningful encounters away from classes such as the warlock and the assassin. Hopefully Sony will address this artifical disparity between <font color="#ff0000">Devestation Fist</font> hits and other classes' (useful) special attacks, otherwise, the high hit numbers will be meaningless because they will always be dominated by level 50 monks who kill level 50 solo mobs possessed of 9,000 or more hit points. </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font><font color="#ffcc66"> </font> <div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ForceUser wrote:<BR><FONT color=#ffcc66>4. <FONT color=#ff0000>Devestation Fist</FONT> always inflicts damage equal to the mob's total hit points, plus 250 or so. This unfortunately skews the high magic hit numbers severely out of balance, taking credit for meaningful hits in meaningful encounters away from classes such as the warlock and the assassin. Hopefully Sony will address this artifical disparity between <FONT color=#ff0000>Devestation Fist</FONT> hits and other classes' (useful) special attacks, otherwise, the high hit numbers will be meaningless because they will always be dominated by level 50 monks who kill level 50 solo mobs possessed of 9,000 or more hit points. </FONT><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Nope, as of late its been dominated by guardians with their adventure pack skill that kills them.  Upwards of 13,000+ magic damage done by guardians.</P> <P>You know, the guys with the lowest DPS besides priests.<BR></P>

[-Aonein-]

<P>And Gage forgot to mention that it only works on Vampires, well, the spell he is refering too only works on Vampires and also what he fails to mention is that the entire <STRONG><U>Fighter</U></STRONG> range has access to this Spell, not just Guardians.</P> <P>Taemek Frozenberg 45th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</P> <P> </P>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR> <P>And Gage forgot to mention that it only works on Vampires, well, the spell he is refering too only works on Vampires and also what he fails to mention is that the entire <STRONG><U>Fighter</U></STRONG> range has access to this Spell, not just Guardians.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Read my post.  I was commenting on the game/server wide top magic hits.  Which is no longer filled with monks doing 9k, its filled with guardians doing 13k+.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Ili]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gage-Mikel wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR> <P>And Gage forgot to mention that it only works on Vampires, well, the spell he is refering too only works on Vampires and also what he fails to mention is that the entire <STRONG><U>Fighter</U></STRONG> range has access to this Spell, not just Guardians.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Read my post.  I was commenting on the game/server wide top magic hits.  Which is no longer filled with monks doing 9k, its filled with guardians doing 13k+.</P> <HR> <P>Derailing thread for just a moment...</P> <P>Hey Gage, I think Aonein likes you. I think every post I read of yours now has a reply of his right after. Do you enjoy having so many obvious admirers?</P> <P>-Ilina</P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

[Gaige]

<P>Yes, of course I do.</P> <P>It started with Sage and now my obvious fan club is growing.</P> <P>I'm getting tshirts made soon, order yours today! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Ili]

<P>I'll only order it if you aren't wearing that hideous robe.</P> <P>No, that does not mean I want to see you naked.</P> <P>-Ilina</P>

[Jezekie]

<span><blockquote><hr>-Aonein- wrote:<div></div> <p>And Gage forgot to mention that it only works on Vampires, well, the spell he is refering too only works on Vampires and also what he fails to mention is that the entire <strong><u>Fighter</u></strong> range has access to this Spell, not just Guardians.</p> <p>Taemek Frozenberg 45th Berserker16th OutfitterEverfrost ServerEnlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )70th Stone Fist of The Celestial FistFive Rings on Luclin Server</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Eh? The guardian BC skill isn't avaliable to everyone in the fighter branch. It basically is an attack that kills them as well. It has nothing to do with vampires. And it counts for magical damage for that matter.</span><div></div>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> Jezekiell wrote: <P><SPAN>Eh? The guardian BC skill isn't avaliable to everyone in the fighter branch. It basically is an attack that kills them as well. It has nothing to do with vampires. And it counts for magical damage for that matter.</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yes Pat, I would like to solve the puzzle, is it P-W-N-D?</P> <P>Thanks Jez, I thought I was right but haven't finished enough of the adv pack to say so myself.<BR></P>

[-Aonein-]

<P>Sorry was confused about what Gage was getting at from reading another thread, but yes, there is class sepcific BC spells, then there is also a few that is shared by the entire fighter range. Yes Jez i have the spell, im aware how it works.</P> <P>Unyielding Will is for both warriors. Guardians and Berserkers.<BR><BR>Vicious Embrace is for all fighters upon the 11th quest for the brethren of night.<BR><BR>Corpsecrush is for all fighters upon the 11th quest for the hand of marr.<BR><BR>Corpsecrush is 99 mana, 60 sec re-use, does like 250-425dmg and debuffs the mobs agi and str by -35. Both of these spells are vampire only.</P> <P><BR>I didnt click on to Gage meaning the reason why Guardians hold the highest magic hit is because a Guardian with 13k hp died from his class specific BC art.</P> <P>Taemek Frozenberg 45th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</P><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:37 PM</span>

[-Aonein-]

<P>But i forgot to mention Gage, that at the time you posted :</P> <P>Gage wrote :</P> <P><EM>You know, the guys with the lowest DPS besides priests.</EM></P> <P>You knew nothing about the ability and was implying that Guards were acually doing 13k damage to the Mob, which later out you found out how it really worked.</P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 45th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:44 PM</span>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR> <P>But i forgot to mention Gage, that at the time you posted :</P> <P>Gage wrote :</P> <P><EM>You know, the guys with the lowest DPS besides priests.</EM></P> <P>You knew nothing about the ability and was implying that Guards were acually doing 13k damage to the Mob, which later out you found out how it really worked.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Actually I knew because nevaar told me awhile back, when I asked him how he got highest hit on Guk.</P> <P>That last line was sarcasm.</P> <P>But I'm sure you didn't catch it.</P> <P>Read my post.  It isn't hard:</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Nope, as of late its been <FONT color=#ffff00 size=5>dominated by guardians with their adventure pack skill that kills them</FONT>.  Upwards of 13,000+ magic damage done by guardians.</P> <P>You know, the guys with the lowest DPS besides priests.</P> <HR> <P>See where I specifically stated "adventure pack skill that kills THEM".</P> <P>Quit trying to read into my statements and just read them, you suck at being psychic.</P> <P>The part I was unsure about was your statement that "all fighters got it"; which I was pretty sure that we didn't but as I stated I haven't finished all the BC quests, so I chose not to speak with absolute conviction.<BR></P> <p>Message Edited by Gage-Mikel on <span class=date_text>03-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:43 PM</span>

[Supe14]

Kerra, what did you find that had 9,100ish hp??  So far, that lvl 49 bear in EF is the toughest thing I've found to kill.  And yesterday this ability didn't work on Foulgill the Rotten, who is listed as neither heroic, nor epic.  Imagine my disappointment when I had to spend 2 minutes killing it for the Stink Hoop.

[kerra]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Supe14 wrote:<BR> Kerra, what did you find that had 9,100ish hp??  So far, that lvl 49 bear in EF is the toughest thing I've found to kill.  And yesterday this ability didn't work on Foulgill the Rotten, who is listed as neither heroic, nor epic.  Imagine my disappointment when I had to spend 2 minutes killing it for the Stink Hoop.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Look to the islands off to the right of the PF entrance, there you will find what you seek grasshopper. :smileyvery-happy:

[Xenor]

i wouldnt want to give away my secret or anything - but the best hits can be found in Solusek's eye <div></div>

[Supe14]

<DIV>There are no Sol Eye lvl 50 solo mobs that I've seen yet.  And the only thing out on the iceflows are heroic or under lvl 50.  :smileymad:</DIV>

[Havann]

<DIV>I know where some big ones are Supe....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But you know I will never tell you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zensai leader of Exiled an Unrest Guild</DIV> <DIV>50 Monk / 50 Alchemist</DIV>

[Gaige]

Is there anything higher than the wyrm guardians or whatever in the MG instance for Speak As A Dragon?

[Aegi]

<div></div><div></div>Ok come on guys, spill the beans! Help me break into the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/player_srankings_detailed.vm?serverId=116&action=CharacterAgg.getByRankServer&rank=magicHitRankServer&type=HighestMagicalHit" target=_blank>top 5 on my server</a>. If you don't wanna post publically, message me in game - I'm on grobb my char name is Aegien <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. or you can email me - aegien[at]veeshanguard[dot]com <div></div><p>Message Edited by Aegien on <span class="date_text">05-19-2005</span> <span class="time_text">10:52 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Aegien on <span class=date_text>05-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:52 AM</span>

[Lizardling]

<DIV>Yea Gage, not sure what gives higher though, but the player top hits show it(a lot of bruisers/monks with same 15k score). The thing is though once it gets out the ones that got the hit first are put under the next person who gets the same hit so they are rapidly going down again in the rankings even though they may have been one of the firsts to find out what gives those 15k hits. Another reason the ranking system sucks.</DIV>

[Supe14]

<DIV>LOL Zensai!!  I don't blame you mate, I may just have to actually open my eyes when I'm out and about in the world.:smileywink:  I have noticed though that some mobs that are/have been listed as solo are still too powerful. (Foulgill) and some random non-named as well.  It's still a pretty fun skill though, as not everyone in the game knows about it.  We laugh a lot when we are doing writs and I say "hey watch this!!" and drop a glacier bear instantly while someone who doesn't know about the skill is watching.</DIV>

[Owa]

i got the highest on my server (1300+) at a lowly lvl 46. Thing is, I can't remember what i killed to get such a high score <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> It's usually around 5000-6000. And i love it by the way. Group getting ready to take on mobs, buffing etc...monk strolls by...BAM...keeps on walking to the next mob. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Aegi]

I broke into the top 10, for a day. !@$%!Someone! Please! 10k+ mob? <div></div>

[Gaige]

You can hit the wyrm guardians in the x2 MG instance for like 11,500.

[Morrolan V]

<P><FONT face=Garamond size=3>Tried the Wyrm Guardian last night and it told me "Target too powerful".  There were only three MoBs in the encounter, though.  Do different numbers pop?</FONT></P>

[Gaige]

Hmm, not that I know of.

[HL12]

<P>Ok I dont know what I was killing at the time but I hit top 3 tied for 1 with 15,132 with a DF.  My best idea when I did it was in Permafrost killing giants, Seems There is a Named Mob that spawns with 3 other giants right next to the door where the wolves are, cant really remember the named mobs name.  Anyway, One of the guys that spawns with the named you can DF and I believe thats where I got the 15k kill shot from.  Or it was when someone was completing the final quest for the necklace in PF, One of the 4 mobs that spawns I think its Crun or something like that might be able to be DFed.  Basically, look around for a named mob and if he has friends find one to DF.. Chances are you will get the 15k shot.</P> <P>Have Fun</P>

[Lord_Eganr]

<DIV>It's so sad that people are whining about what other people can do in the game.  So what I now have the chance to slam out 10K dmg if I'm lucky, if you have a problem with it, you tank the mob!!!  Take the hits to the chest or deflect them, after you're laying on the floor looking bloody and pathetic you'll know to keep your @$$ behind the mob, and keep happily keep stabbing and shut up, so that we can get some exp and gear.  If the mage has a problem with it, again, bring your dress-wearin butt up here and use your face as a shield.  If you can't do that, then stay back there and keep wiggling your fingers, because I'm the one up here taking or deflecting the abuse so that you'll stay alive.  You don't hear me complaining that you do so much more damage than I do.  It's just a fun spell.  At least your pets (some mages) and invises (scouts & mages) are useful!!!</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV>HA Monks get an invis that is pretty much useless, except for the 5 levels after you get it and a poison cure that for me has only worked like 5 times.</DIV>

[RalphSmi]

<DIV>I've actually used it at lvl 48 and hit something for 15,132 or something.  Number 1 Magical hit on MM atm and never knew it=p</DIV>

[carling1]

<DIV>hey guys just thought id say its a shame that people whinge about us getting a fun and maybe slightly handy spell, monks havent been the easiest class to get along with and basically our fluff spells suck, i was chuffed to get this spell as it put the fun back into being a monk <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />, it doesnt really have much of a use as 90% of cons are heroic or epic encounters so it cant be used but hey lets just enjoy what we have and what the game is about and thats fun, ive had my guild mates in fits of laughter when they watch me knock a giant down in one and thats all it should be is fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kronadin]

Actually it does have its use: When soloing, you can save a little time and power every 5 minutes by knocking down an opponent with one blow. Don't rely on it though, I've had quite a few mobs resist devastation fists already.

[Morrolan V]

<FONT face=Garamond size=3>It's also very useful in knocking out the last MoB in a multiple-MoB heroic encounter.  I do that a lot (like the 4 goblin groups in lavastorm).  I have been soloing those 4 MoB, 45th level groups a lot lately (at 48th).  Devastation fist is really helpful at the end, when one of the fighter type goblins is still at full health, and I'm in the orange.</FONT>