Gathering info on Adept 3s and Masters

[Velor]

<DIV>I'm creating a spreadsheet that includes spell data on our combat art upgrades and I'd like to get info from others to help me fill in the blanks for it. I'm mostly interested in upgrades going from Adept 1 to Adept 3 but feel free to include info from Apprentice 4s as well as Master 1s if you like. Also, to keep this in a semi-manageable size, I only want info on spells that are level 35 or higher. The key to remember is that I need the info EXACTLY as it's listed in game for you. Estimates or "I think it was around..." don't help. Oh, and I also need your level too. That's just as important.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any format is fine, so long as I can understand it. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freezing Palm (level 45)</DIV> <UL> <LI>Apprentice 4</LI> <UL> <LI>Power: 65</LI> <LI>Decrease caster health: 202</LI> <LI>Melee dmg on target: 345-575</LI></UL> <LI>Master 1</LI> <UL> <LI>Power: 62</LI> <LI>Decrease caster health: 202</LI> <LI>Melee dmg on target: 379-632</LI></UL></UL> <P>I am primarily doing this to try to identify which of our upgrades need attention by the devs since many Monks have reported that several Adept 3 versions of our arts are virtually identical to their Adept 1 counterparts. However, once the info is compiled, the list could be a valuable tool for others to use when looking for specific data info.</P> <P>Any help is appreciated. Just remember, I need your level, the combat art (35+ only), which skill levels you went from (Adept 1 to Adept 3, etc), and what changed, if anything.</P>

[Velor]

<P>Just upgraded Everburning Fire and wanted to share the info. For reference, I am level 50.</P> <DIV><STRONG>Everburning Fire</STRONG> (level 46)</DIV> <UL> <LI>Adept 1 </LI> <UL> <LI>Increase Attack Speed of caster by 36% <LI>Decrease health by 40</LI></UL> <LI>Adept 3 </LI> <UL> <LI>Increase Attack Speed of caster by 40% <LI>Decrease health by 40</LI></UL></UL> <P>I've also seen someone post the info on a Master 1 too.</P> <UL> <LI>Master 1</LI> <UL> <LI>Increase Attack Speed of caster by 48%</LI> <LI>Decrease health by 37</LI></UL></UL><p>Message Edited by Velorek on <span class=date_text>03-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:43 AM</span>

[RadricTyc]

I have an Adept 3 Focus Energy and Adept 3 Quiet Purity.  I will edit this post to give the stats on these when I get home (7pm est or so).

[RadricTyc]

<P>Focus Energy (level 36)</P> <UL> <LI>Adept I</LI> <UL> <LI>Power:  44</LI> <LI>Increase Threat:  453</LI> <LI>Increase DPS of caster: 5%</LI> <LI>Interrupts target encounter</LI></UL> <LI>Adept III</LI> <UL> <LI>Power:  46</LI> <LI>Increase Threat: 463</LI> <LI>Increase DPS of caster: 5%</LI> <LI>Interrupt target encounter</LI></UL></UL> <P>Can you say waste of freaking rare?  Sure, I knew ya could.</P> <P>Quiet Purity -- Level 37</P> <UL> <LI>Adept I</LI> <UL> <LI>Power:  115</LI> <LI>Increase DPS of group:  9%</LI> <LI>Increase Crusing piercing and slashing of group: 9</LI> <LI>Increase mitigation of group vs. mental: 257</LI></UL> <LI>Adept III</LI> <UL> <LI>Power:  117</LI> <LI>Increase DPS of group:  9%</LI> <LI>Increase Crusihing piercing and slashing of group:  10</LI> <LI>Increase mitigation of group vs mental:  267</LI></UL></UL> <P>*Sigh*  Another waste <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I am level 44 and the stats are the same with Winding dragon active: Tranquility +10, so I would assume these are the best stats we will see from these skills.</P>

[Velor]

<DIV>Got an interesting upgrade yesterday and thought I'd share.</DIV> <P><STRONG>Heal </STRONG>(level 4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <UL> <LI>Adept 1</LI> <UL> <LI>Heals caster for 26%</LI></UL></UL> <P><STRONG>Compress</STRONG> (level 34)</P> <UL> <LI>Master 1</LI> <UL> <LI>Heals caster for 32%</LI></UL></UL> <P> </P> <P>I'm not a big fan of using combat arts that I've long outgrown but in the case of our heal, I figured it was a no-brainer. Besides, it was only 60g and 6% is a fairly nice increase.</P>

[Wiou]

thats the best upgrade ive seen. the absolute STUPID thing about adepts and masters is they upgrade the potency, but they also jack up the power usage, which makes it the same skill, or even worse in some cases <div></div>

[Nemi]

I managed to get Brawlers Stance Adept3 and Staggering Stance Adept3. Both waste of a rare. Unfortunately back then I didnt write down the stats =( I remember it being +1 Deflect/Defense on Brawlers and I don't think anything changed on Staggering.

[Kharza Xorlarr]

Bump.. I know it isn't 35+ but since it is last of a spell line I wanted to include it since I still use the skill at 44: Face of the Mountain Adept 1 177 power 55 sec duration Increase mitigation by 189 Face of the Mountain Adept 3 177 power 55 sec duration Increase mitigation by 195 Basically it wasn't as big of an increase as I thought it might be.. boils down to an increase in 0.1% mitigation at lvl 44 Kharza lvl 44 Monk Mistmoore <div></div>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>Face of the Mountain Master 1<BR>171 power<BR>55 sec duration?<BR>Increase mitigation by 209</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Play Dead Master 1</DIV> <DIV>75% vs level 34</DIV> <DIV>  0% vs level 43</DIV>

[Velor]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arrowheart wrote:<BR> <DIV>Face of the Mountain Master 1<BR>171 power<BR>55 sec duration?<BR>Increase mitigation by 209</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Play Dead Master 1</DIV> <DIV>75% vs level 34</DIV> <DIV>  0% vs level 43</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Good info. What level are you Arrow?<BR>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>This was already on the list but since it does get better at 50...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Compress Master 1</DIV> <DIV>Heals target for 33%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However through testing both compress and heal are severely broken. I tested around 22% for both arts no matter what the spell delve said or how far upgraded. For testing I also tried mend, which also did not heal for its stated delve value, exact figures/testing can be found in the monk bugs there on the forum here.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Arrowheart on <span class=date_text>05-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:13 AM</span>

[Wiou]

isnt it sad what 'upgrades' are? <div></div>

[Tweak]

Quiet Purity (Master 1)Power 129Increase group DPS by 10%Increase group Crushing/Piercing/Slashing by 12Increase group Mental Mitigation by 322Spider Stance (Adept 3)Identical to Adept1 <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Power 79Increase Attack speed by 10%Increase Defense and Deflection by 15Wind Walk (Adept 3)Identical to Adept1 <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Level 35 InvisibilitySilent Fist (Adept 3)Power 79369-615 damageStifles target

[Cwi]

<div></div>Icy Talon (level 50) <ul> <li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: 77</li><li>Crushing dmg on target: 645 </li></ul><li>Master 1</li><ul><li>Power: 82</li><li>Crushing dmg on target: 792</li></ul></ul> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Cwiyk on <span class=date_text>04-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:56 PM</span>

[Cwi]

<div></div><div>Biting Mantis (level 50)</div> <ul> <li>Adept 1 </li><ul><li>Power: 65</li><li>Magic dmg on target: 242-404</li></ul><li>Master 1</li><ul><li>Power: 69</li><li>Magic dmg on target: 295-491</li></ul> </ul> I know Everburing Fire adept 3 has been listed before, but wanted to show its stats at level 50. <div> Everburning Fire (level 50)</div> <ul> <li>Adept 1 </li><ul><li>Power: 77</li><li>Health: ?</li><li>Increases Attack Speed of caster by 36% </li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 79</li><li>Health: 55 to cast, 278 every 30.0 seconds </li><li>Increases Attack Speed of caster by 40%</li></ul> </ul> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Cwiyk on <span class=date_text>04-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:24 PM</span>

[Arrowheart]

<P><EM>Adept 1 Stop Heart</EM></P><EM> <P><EM>- Feigh Death with a 75% chance of success vs level 39 or lower <BR></EM><EM><BR>- Feigh Death with a 0% chance of success vs level 49 or higher</EM></P></EM> <P><EM>Adept 3 Stop Heart</EM></P><EM> <P><EM>- Feigh Death with a 75% chance of success vs level 41 or lower <BR></EM><EM><BR>- Feigh Death with a 0% chance of success vs level 51 or higher</EM></P> <P>Stats at level 50.</P></EM><p>Message Edited by Arrowheart on <span class=date_text>05-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:06 AM</span>

[Cwi]

Someone with spare time on their hands should feign about a thousand times and record what their feign value was. This would both  tell us the range of feign values and the true percent chance to succeed. Would be nice to get this for Adept 1 and 3 of each version of FD. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[bonesbro]

Hmm.  My BM Master is 279-465.  Guess it varies based on your strength. <div></div>

[stfields]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR>Hmm.  My BM Master is 279-465.  Guess it varies based on your strength.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Are you level 50?  If not, then since your tranquility skill is lower, the damage is lower.  If you are 50...then maybe you are right <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is probably as good of a place as I can find to bring this up... since its not too off topic: </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is it safe to say that the "biggest" upgrades are on damage combat arts and not buff combat arts?  There are of course some exceptions to that rule... but as an example, you see that Quiet Purity and Spider Stance have little to no increase in their potency whatsoever.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, Biting Mantis and Icy Talon do have a rather large jump.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I bring this up because over the past week, my alchemist was lucky enough to get 2 free Rhodium (/shock) and I harvested up another last night in Everfrost.  I first upgraded Icy Talon.  That was a nice increase, in my opinion.  But, I've been racking my brain trying to figure out which other combat arts are worth upgrading.  Should I just stick with damage arts?</DIV><p>Message Edited by stfields on <span class=date_text>05-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:48 AM</span>

[Arrowheart]

<P>This is off-topic but this is our bloodlines vamp only spell for finishing the full set of quests at one of the camps:</P> <P>Corpsecrush</P> <P>Power 93<BR>Casting Time 1.0 Secs<BR>Recovery Time - Instant<BR>Recast Time 1 Minute<BR>Duration 24.1 Secs</P> <P>Martial Arts (175)<BR>Martial Arts (250)</P> <P>Decrease STR of target by 34<BR>Decrease AGI of target by 34<BR>Inflict 254-423 dmg on target</P> <P>These are the stats at level 47, will update when I hit 50.</P><p>Message Edited by Arrowheart on <span class=date_text>05-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:47 AM</span>

[bonesbro]

<P>Yes, I'm level 50.</P> <P>I tested +tranquility several weeks ago and found that +20 tranquility did not increase the numbers displayed when examining, nor did it increase the damage done to very low grey mobs.  I tested using Icy Talon which is still yellow at 50.  The con color of the skill in the examine window did change though.  I would also not expect Biting Mantis to change based on my tranquility because at 50 I've already passed its maximum skill level.</P>

[Arrowheart]

<P>Another Master for the list:</P> <P>Martial Discipline Master 1<BR>Increase Deflection by 3<BR>Increase Avoidance by 42%</P>

[Nefari]

A bit off-topic but... How is it finding Ad1 and App4 of high-lvl Monk spells on your server?  On AB it's REALLY hard to find some....I just turned 50 and cannot find Freezing Palm or Flying Dragon, another 50th Monk in my guild hasn't been able to find either of them in over a week.  Think we're just gonna by ad3's and get it over with. As it is, most 45-50 Ad1's on AB sell for a pittance...like 3-5g.  Many Monk ad1's people ask for 10+. <div></div>

[Salodor]

There was only 1 alchemist on Qeynos side doing the App 4's on Befallen.  Got lucky and traded a master defiler for a master freezing palm, have yet to see any of the Adept 1's though for the level 50 abilities.  Doubt I will really get any Adept 3's made though, the upgrade just doesn't seem worth it for me to use the rares..even though I got quite a few taking up bank space.  Probably just gonna use em for T5 Adept 3's for a twink.

[Arrowheart]

<P>The new stats for Spider Stance:</P> <P>Spider Stance (App1)<BR>Increase Attack speed by 8%<BR>Increase Defense and Deflection by 15<BR></P> <P>Spider Stance (App4)<BR>Increase Attack speed by 11%<BR>Increase Defense and Deflection by 15<BR></P> <P>Spider Stance (Adept1)<BR>Increase Attack speed by 13%<BR>Increase Defense and Deflection by 15</P> <P>Spider Stance (Adept3)<BR>Increase Attack speed by 15%<BR>Increase Defense and Deflection by 15</P> <P>Spider Stance (Master1)<BR>Increase Attack speed by 17%<BR>Increase Defense and Deflection by 15</P><p>Message Edited by Arrowheart on <span class=date_text>05-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:36 PM</span>

[Heattanu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tweakee wrote:<BR><BR>Wind Walk (Adept 3)<BR>Identical to Adept1 <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>Level 35 Invisibility<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Windwalk still doesn't upgrade =(. For a level 29 monk</P> <P>Wind Walk apprentice IV identical to adept I (level 30 invisibility - note would be level 35 like Tweakee, if my character level was higher)</P> <P>Play Dead apprentice IV (75% chance at level 20) upgrades to adept I (75% at level 22), which is still less than my level 20 training Beslin's Still Mind (75% at level 25). I assume Play Dead will pass up Beslin's when I level past 30 or so.</P> <P>Thanks for the useful info in this thread.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>Biting Mantis at level 48 with 126 str (every +10 str seems to bump dmg 2-3 on each end of the range)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <LI>Adept 1 </LI> <UL> <LI>Power: 64 <LI>Magic dmg on target: 219-366</LI></UL> <LI>Adept 3 </LI> <UL> <LI>Power: 65 <LI>Magic dmg on target: 241-401</LI></UL> <LI>Master 1 </LI> <UL> <LI>Power: 67 <LI>Magic dmg on target: 270-450</LI></UL>

[Cwi]

Freezing Palm (level 50)     * Apprentice 4           o Power: 65           o Decrease caster health: 228           o Melee dmg on target: 315-525     * Adept 3           o Power: 67           o Decrease caster health: 228           o Melee dmg on target: 354-591 Silent Fist (level 50)     * Apprentice 4           o Power: 76           o Melee dmg on target: 346-577     * Adept 3           o Power: 79           o Melee dmg on target: 390-650<div></div>

[overphalan]

<P>I appreciate what you guys are doing here.  I am wondering if you can give me a few tips on tracking performance on the different spell levels as I haven't really been doing that but would like to contribute to this forum.</P> <P> </P> <P>thanks,</P> <P> </P> <P><U>Tolbrun</U></P> <P><U>Level 37 Half-Elf Monk</U></P> <P><U>Highkeep Server</U></P>

[Arrowheart]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> overphalanx1 wrote:<BR> <P>I appreciate what you guys are doing here.  I am wondering if you can give me a few tips on tracking performance on the different spell levels as I haven't really been doing that but would like to contribute to this forum.</P> <P> </P> <P>thanks,</P> <P> </P> <P><U>Tolbrun</U></P> <P><U>Level 37 Half-Elf Monk</U></P> <P><U>Highkeep Server</U></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Generally you dont even need the spell to be able to contribute, as long as your in range of being able to use it, just find/examine any adept 3 or master 1 on broker or if you already have them examine it and find/examine adept1 or app4 on broker for comparision stats.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back on topic of the thread found another master on broker:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thundering Fist</DIV> <DIV>App3 = 5% chance to stun</DIV> <DIV>App4 = 6% chance to stun</DIV> <DIV>Adept1 = 6% chance to stun</DIV> <DIV>Master1 = 7% chance to stun</DIV>

[Tazdrag]

<P>Storming Hydra Master at level 50</P> <P>Power 105, duration 20secs, range 5.0 metres max AOI targets 5</P> <UL> <LI>inflict 197 - 329 magic damage on targets in area</LI> <LI>increase AGI of caster by 22</LI></UL> <DIV>But increase to AGI is bugged</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Karakka</DIV> <DIV>Lucan DLere</DIV>

[Yojimbo99]

<P>ok, bit the bullet for the sake of science here : stone stance  skill 200 to unlimited</P> <P>durations are 21.6 secs on all </P> <P>ap2 </P> <P>power 128  </P> <P>720 vs crushing</P> <P>2400 vs slash/pierce</P> <P> </P> <P>adept 1</P> <P>power 133</P> <P>773 vs crushing </P> <P>2588 vs slash/pierce</P> <P> </P> <P>adept 3</P> <P>power 135</P> <P>801 vs crushing</P> <P>2639 vs slash/pierce</P> <P>also on a note: tried using trans vision and winding dragon to up tranquility to see if it impacted the results being stone stance is unlimited skill cap on it...does nothing ..for the curious  this brought my base mitigation % from 37.1 to 75.3 </P> <P> </P> <P>Rolangard; Slayer of Fairies </P> <P>toxxulia</P> <p>Message Edited by Yojimbo99 on <span class=date_text>05-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:23 PM</span>

[Dagrean]

<P>Striking corbra - </P> <P>  Apprentice IV</P> <P>     - Power 46</P> <P>     - 105 - 176 melee damage </P> <P>     - Interrupts Target</P> <P>     - Decrease damage per second of target by 5%</P> <P> </P> <P>  Master I</P> <P>     - Power 56</P> <P>    - 143 - 238 melee damage</P> <DIV>    - Interrupts target</DIV> <DIV>    - Decrease damage per second of target by 5%</DIV> <DIV>     </DIV><p>Message Edited by Dagrean on <span class=date_text>05-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:00 AM</span>

[Salodor]

<P>Freezing Palm Master 1 @ 50:</P> <P>208 Health</P> <P>70 Power</P> <P>377-628 Damage</P>

[Tazdrag]

<DIV>Charging Tiger Master @ level 50</DIV> <UL> <LI>inflict 194 - 324 crushing damage on target</LI> <LI>stun target</LI></UL> <P> </P> <P>Karakka</P> <P>Lucan DLere</P>

[Cwi]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><p>I see some of the adept 3s I recently got have already been posted, but without the app4/adept1 data with which to compare them. Its important to post the stats of what you had before and the stats of the Adept 3. Also, need to record those stats with the same gear and buffs. This is crucial, otherwise we can't see the percentage upgrade a particular Adept 3 provides.Different people with different gear and stats will have different stats, so please keep this in mind. =)</p><p><!-- [if !supportEmptyParas] --> <!-- [endif] --></p><p>Flying Dragon (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: 77</li><li>Crush dmg on target: 434</li><li>Unspecified dmg on target: 45</li><li>Decrease health of target by 36 every 4 seconds</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 79</li><li>Crush dmg on target: 476</li><li>Unspecified dmg on target: 49</li><li>Decrease health of target by 36 every 4 seconds</li></ul></ul><p>Lunging Mongoose (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: 99</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 122-203</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 122-203</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 122-203</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 122-203</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 244-407</li><li>Stun</li><li>Doesn’t affect Epic targets</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 101</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 134-223</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 134-223</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 134-223</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 134-223</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 268-447</li><li>Stun</li><li>Doesn’t affect Epic targets</li></ul></ul><p>Heal (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Heal target for 26</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Heal target for 29</li></ul></ul><p>Diving Phoenix (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: 99</li><li>Heat dmg on target: 190-318</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 101</li><li>Heat dmg on target: 209-348</li></ul></ul><p>Charging Tiger (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: 99</li><li>Crushing dmg on target: 163-271</li><li>Stun target</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 101</li><li>Crushing dmg on target: 178-298</li><li>Stun target</li></ul></ul><p>Storming Hydra (level 50)</p><ul><li>Adept 1</li><ul><li>Power: ?</li><li>Magic dmg on target: 163-271</li><li>Increase AGI of caster by 22</li></ul><li>Adept 3</li><ul><li>Power: 101</li><li>Magic dmg on target: 178-298</li><li>Increase AGI of caster by 22</li></ul></ul>Edit: Erroneously copied Adept 1 data to Adept 3 data for Lunging Mongoose.<p>Message Edited by Cwiyk on <span class=date_text>05-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:41 PM</span>

[bonesbro]

Thanks, that's really good info.  It looks like everything is about a 10% increase from a1 to a3. <div></div>

[Cwi]

<div>Striking Cobra (level 50)</div> <ul> <li>Adept 1 </li><ul><li>Power: 64</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 163-271</li><li>Interupts target</li> <li>Decrease Damage Per Second of target by 5% </li> </ul><li>Master 1</li><ul><li>Power: 67</li><li>Melee dmg on target: 200-333</li><li>Interupts target</li> <li>Decrease Damage Per Second of target by 5% </li> </ul> </ul> <div></div>

[bonesbro]

<div></div>Post-LU9 Indomitable Will (Master 1): Power: 26 Casting Time: 1.0 seconds Recovery Time: 0.5 seconds Recast Time: 30.0 seconds Effects: Dispells 78-95 levels of hostile mental effects on caster. The old one was 46-59 or so. <div></div><p>Message Edited by bonesbro on <span class=date_text>05-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:14 AM</span>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>For comparison:</DIV> <DIV>Post-LU9 Indomitable Will (Adept 1):<BR><BR>Power: 26<BR>Casting Time: 1.0 seconds<BR>Recovery Time: 0.5 seconds<BR>Recast Time: 30.0 seconds<BR><BR>Effects: Dispells 56-69 levels of hostile mental effects on caster.<BR></DIV>

[Gaige]

<P>Okay, I think some of these are repeats, but I'm going to post my 10 adept 3s with their side by side adept 1 (I think one app3) comparisons, all screenshots cuz I'm too lazy to type.</P> <P>Here we go:</P> <P><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2185/adept17yq.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/6840/adept28ie.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/5654/adept35so.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/8285/adept47ah.jpg"></P> <P><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/6249/adept55sa.jpg"></P> <DIV><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2739/adept62wg.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/5103/adept71kp.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2639/adept82ki.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/7060/adept91ts.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img239.echo.cx/img239/4615/adept104oq.jpg"></DIV>

[EricStratt]

My only master: Wisdom of Zephyl (Master 1) Power 95 Increases DPS of group members by 9% Increases Crushing, Piercing and Slashing of group members by 9. Only thing I have to compare it against is App2: Power 82 Increases DPS of group members by 8% Increases Crushing, Piercing and Slashing of group members by 6. <div></div>

[Yojimbo99]

<DIV>Yeah i wasted a ruby</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>adept 1 winding dragon</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>increase dps 5%</DIV> <DIV>increase tranquil 10 </DIV> <DIV>decrease crush slash  pierce  by 8</DIV> <DIV>increase defense by 11</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>adept 3 winding dragon</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>increase dps 5%</DIV> <DIV>increase tranquil  10</DIV> <DIV>decrease crush slash pierce by 8</DIV> <DIV>increase defense by 12</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i dont remember the power cost on them but im sure the adept 3 costs more to cast (not that is a big deal being an "endless" buff)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rolangard Frostfist; Slayer of Fairies</DIV> <DIV>toxxulia's favortite lvl 50 barbarian monk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Yojimbo99 on <span class=date_text>06-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:49 AM</span>

[Gaige]

<IMG src="http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8260/flyingdragon6uz.jpg">

[Gaige]

<DIV><IMG src="http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7128/eq20001854gj.jpg"></DIV>

[Rothgard-san]

<DIV>The Master I Everburning Fire dropped the other day, I'll post the stats as soon as I get home. It definately has 48% haste, though.</DIV>

[Reposa]

<img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/Reposado/EQ2_000347.jpg"><div></div>

[BLOODka]

Should I get the highest possible Rapid Swings? I hear it is still being used at level 50 (and you get it in your teens)

[Gaige]

Yes, I use adept 3 rapid swings everyday, and would love to have a master.

[Morrolan V]

<FONT face=Garamond size=3>Yes, Rapid Swings is the only one of its line that works against Epic MoBs.</FONT>

[zabor]

great, transcendent vision now says "increases monk of caster by 10". Didn't know this before. perhaps interesting for all those gnome and halfling monks. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[BLOODka]

<P>Increases the "Monk" of the caster? So we look more like Tony Shalhoub?</P> <P> </P> <P><IMG src="http://www.nndb.com/people/292/000025217/tony_v6_sm.jpg"></P>

[MadBarman]

Just a quick question. Im level 41 at the moment so it wont be too long before I get transendant vision. Does the +tranquility stack with sweeping crane? With the new skill window it doesnt list this skill so i want be able to check myself Oh and someone posted compress master earlier so for comparision: Compres adept 3 27% heal (but i am only level 41 so its not maxed out yet) Sweeping crane doesnt change the displayed value <div></div>

[bonesbro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MadBarman wrote:<BR>Just a quick question.<BR><BR>Im level 41 at the moment so it wont be too long before I get transendant vision. Does the +tranquility stack with sweeping crane? With the new skill window it doesnt list this skill so i want be able to check myself<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Yup, it stacks.  You'll get +20 Monk!</DIV>

[Cyngii]

I scored a Master 1 Agitate Spirit last night.  I'm only level 47 so not sure if values will be 100% correct but will post screenshot when i get home from work. 

[trin ka]

<DIV>Found a rough jasper last night....I have a lvl 25 monk....what spell 20-30 should I make adept 3? No clue if this was supposed to be posted here but thanks for the insight.</DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> trin kahl wrote:<BR> <DIV>Found a rough jasper last night....I have a lvl 25 monk....what spell 20-30 should I make adept 3? No clue if this was supposed to be posted here but thanks for the insight.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>IMHO get Dragon Stance from 20 to 30.</P> <P><IMG src="http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2935/eq20001991lm.jpg"><BR></P>

[Rothgard-san]

<DIV>Dissapointing adept 3 for Quiet Purity there gaige - hopefully we'll see an ugprade for it in the Lv40 - 50 range after the revamp :smileyhappy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Rothgard-san on <span class=date_text>07-18-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:12 PM</span>

[stfields]

<DIV>Sorry in advance for reviving an old thread, but its useful.  Oh, not gonna /bump.  I'll add for comparison purposes:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://legacyofunrest.com/members/taveren/divingdragon.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use DD Master I over Flying Dragon AdeptIII.  Its all around better and lands great on epic mobs.  It only cost 30g <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Of course, if I ever saw the Master I, I'd pick that up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Dandeli]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> stfields wrote:<BR> <DIV>Sorry in advance for reviving an old thread, but its useful.  Oh, not gonna /bump.  I'll add for comparison purposes:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://legacyofunrest.com/members/taveren/divingdragon.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use DD Master I over Flying Dragon AdeptIII.  Its all around better and lands great on epic mobs.  It only cost 30g <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Of course, if I ever saw the Master I, I'd pick that up <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Atm I'm not so sure you'd pick it up right away. The master I flying dragon has the exact same damage as Diving dragon, and like 4 more damage on the DoT.</DIV>

[zabor]

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