Funny EQ2 quote (Monk related)

[Ala]

<DIV>Funny conversation I had with a level 29 Pali while in ToV (SH)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P>Me: Let me pull and tank so we don't agro more than one at a time</P> <P>Pali: You're a healer why would you tank?</P> <P>Me: I'm not a healer, I'm a Monk</P> <P>Pali: Monks are healers</P> <P>Me: No, we are tanks</P> <P>Pali: Ha ha Guardians are tanks...</P> <P>Me: (sarcastically) Fine, you tank and I'll heal you with everything I got</P> <P>Pali: I'm not a tank I'm a Pali</P> <P>Me: /killself</P> <P> <HR> </P> <P>I understand there are many classes (24), I'm still learning some fantastic and unique abilities of some.  But in this case, I was amused that a level 29 player was almost arguing about my abilities. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>He was turned out to be a nice guy that was actually very intelligent... he just didn't pay much attention to the game other than mashing buttons.</P>

[Bi]

i got told i couldnt tank today by a pally who had just joined our group.me 24 monk, 24 pally, 24pally 24 warden 24 brigand.Sadly the warden didnt know his [FaarNerfed!] too well, but the healing was ok.I died pulling a 2up white mystic (1 pally wasnt there yet as he'd just joined)as I die he proceeds to tell me that monks can't tank and the pally should tank cos he has more ac.So I revive, put brawlers on, and i ahve 150more ac than the pally, and better resists. I say to him: i have better res than the pally, and better AC.He says that platers should tank over monks. yadayada :We had previously discussed who should tank. personally I like my style of pulling cos i announce before I pull, then pull so that I am the only member of the group in front of the mob. I let everyone know whats going on, dont run off; and announce adds (as I am the best placed to see them)Soo.. this guy continues to go on and on; so I tell him he isnt welcome, and kick him from the group.I am told in pm that platers>non platers; and although the damage taken was similar (this pally used a 2h) the healers preference was me.Im pretty tired of hearing this over + over.. so hopefully this new patch will change things.Still think they should add a skill that we can buff up re: deflection in the same way that plate tanks can buff mitigation

[Gaige]

<DIV>Me: Wow patch is gonna help out our tanking a bit</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guildie (lvl 25 monk): Tanking, [FaarNerfed!] I'm melee dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me: ... well you just came here from EQ1 right?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guildie: Yeah, yeah I did.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me: Well... assassins are fun!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ha Ha, it hurts most when its so close to home <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Mike21KC]

<DIV>I am currently a 32 monk and I see this sort of thing frequently.  It is very often coming from pallies.  I have a pally alt and talked with some pallies about this.  It seems like a pretty straight forward reason why this is happening.  As a pally you can solo your way into the mid 20s with ease.  While that is fun, they don't learn the basics of grouping and other characters strengths/weaknesses.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oh, btw, i have been watching the pallies and SK AC while grping and we usually have a higher AC even at a level or 2 below them.  Maybe all the crusaders on my server are ill equiped, but I have tanked many a times with a higher crusader in the group.</DIV>

[Almeric_CoS]

<DIV>Maybe he was playing the Guild Wars beta...I do believe Monks in Guild Wars are healers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just one more reason I won't be playing Guild Wars <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Coter]

<blockquote><hr>Almeric wrote:<DIV>Maybe he was playing the Guild Wars beta...I do believe Monks in Guild Wars are healers.</div><DIV> </div><DIV>Just one more reason I won't be playing Guild Wars <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><DIV> </div><DIV> </div><hr></blockquote>Friars in DAoC are healers as well, and they look a lot like monks.

[Khuds]

Oh lord I can't help but laugh at this.

[Sti]

<DIV>i can tank pretty well with my monk, but personally i would rather be the dps within a group.  monk tanks are somewhat of a strange concept to me.:smileyindifferent:</DIV>

[Didi]

<DIV>I had a funny (in a similar way) conversation yesterday in Stormhold.  The group was me (21 monk), 25 paladin, 24 templar, 24 illusionist, 23 fury, finishing up AQ3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As we descend the spiral stairs towards the atrium:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me:  should I intervene on the druid, or the enchanter?</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: huh?</DIV> <DIV>Templar: what's that?</DIV> <DIV>Paladin: <total silence></DIV> <DIV>Me: If I intervene on you, it means that if you get hit, I take some of the damage.  It's a way for us fighters to protect you fragile folks.</DIV> <DIV>Templar:  ohh, I never knew that</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: that's good</DIV> <DIV>Druid: protect the enchanter</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: protect the druid</DIV> <DIV>Druid: surely the enchanter is more important</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: surely the druid should come first</DIV> <DIV>Paladin: <total silence> </DIV> <DIV>Me: *pauses for a few seconds, thinking the paladin might tell me to intervene on one and he would on the other, but no comments followed*</DIV> <DIV>Me: ok, I'll intervene on the druid, we'll see how it goes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(it really worries me that people can reach their mid 20s and not know what intervene does ... particularly if the paladin's silence also meant he didn't know either!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then later that evening, paladin lets off an AoE in an area he really shouldn't have been AoEing in, particularly as the enchanter had left ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Paladin:  oops!  [FaarNerfed!].  Sorry.</DIV> <DIV>Me: <suddenly taking tons of damage>  Look, see?  I'm taking lots of damage, but it's not hitting me, it's from the intervene on the druid--</DIV> <DIV>Me: *splat, dies suddenly*</DIV> <DIV>Druid:  *splats shortly after*</DIV> <DIV>Paladin:  [FaarNerfed!].</DIV>

[Amanojak]

<DIV><STRONG>A few days ago I was with a 5 man group inside Runnyeye looking for a plate tank to start. I was the highest level at 36..the others ranged from 33-35. After 20 mins of searching with no luck the leader (33 mystic) asked the group if we should take an LFG 34 ranger to be our main tank :smileyindifferent: </STRONG></DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Didi wrote:<BR> <DIV>I had a funny (in a similar way) conversation yesterday in Stormhold.  The group was me (21 monk), 25 paladin, 24 templar, 24 illusionist, 23 fury, finishing up AQ3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As we descend the spiral stairs towards the atrium:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me:  should I intervene on the druid, or the enchanter?</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: huh?</DIV> <DIV>Templar: what's that?</DIV> <DIV>Paladin: </DIV> <DIV>Me: If I intervene on you, it means that if you get hit, I take some of the damage.  It's a way for us fighters to protect you fragile folks.</DIV> <DIV>Templar:  ohh, I never knew that</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: that's good</DIV> <DIV>Druid: protect the enchanter</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: protect the druid</DIV> <DIV>Druid: surely the enchanter is more important</DIV> <DIV>Enchanter: surely the druid should come first</DIV> <DIV>Paladin: </DIV> <DIV>Me: *pauses for a few seconds, thinking the paladin might tell me to intervene on one and he would on the other, but no comments followed*</DIV> <DIV>Me: ok, I'll intervene on the druid, we'll see how it goes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(it really worries me that people can reach their mid 20s and not know what intervene does ... particularly if the paladin's silence also meant he didn't know either!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then later that evening, paladin lets off an AoE in an area he really shouldn't have been AoEing in, particularly as the enchanter had left ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Paladin:  oops!  [FaarNerfed!].  Sorry.</DIV> <DIV>Me:  Look, see?  I'm taking lots of damage, but it's not hitting me, it's from the intervene on the druid--</DIV> <DIV>Me: *splat, dies suddenly*</DIV> <DIV>Druid:  *splats shortly after*</DIV> <DIV>Paladin:  [FaarNerfed!].</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Intervene sucks for us though, since you can't evade the damage.  Even sacrifice is kind of rough.  Maybe with the mitigation increase it will be better.<BR>

[ArivenGemini]

<blockquote><hr>Didi wrote:(it really worries me that people can reach their mid 20s and not know what intervene does ... particularly if the paladin's silence also meant he didn't know either!) Then later that evening, paladin lets off an AoE in an area he really shouldn't have been AoEing in, particularly as the enchanter had left <hr></blockquote>I wont comment on the paladin since it will get the thread locked... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but you can intervene on more than one person at a time, as long as you have enough concentration for it... sometimes I will intervene on two people in a group (usually the prime healer and whoever else is top of the hate list like the wizard or ranger in group).

[Coter]

<blockquote><hr>Didi wrote:<div>I had a funny (in a similar way) conversation yesterday in Stormhold. The group was me (21 monk), 25 paladin, 24 templar, 24 illusionist, 23 fury, finishing up AQ3.</div><div></div><div>As we descend the spiral stairs towards the atrium:</div><div></div><div>Me: should I intervene on the druid, or the enchanter?</div><div>Enchanter: huh?</div><div>Templar: what's that?</div><div>Paladin: </div><div>Me: If I intervene on you, it means that if you get hit, I take some of the damage. It's a way for us fighters to protect you fragile folks.</div><div>Templar: ohh, I never knew that</div><div>Enchanter: that's good</div><div>Druid: protect the enchanter</div><div>Enchanter: protect the druid</div><div>Druid: surely the enchanter is more important</div><div>Enchanter: surely the druid should come first</div><div>Paladin: </div><div>Me: *pauses for a few seconds, thinking the paladin might tell me to intervene on one and he would on the other, but no comments followed*</div><div>Me: ok, I'll intervene on the druid, we'll see how it goes</div><div></div><div></div><div>(it really worries me that people can reach their mid 20s and not know what intervene does ... particularly if the paladin's silence also meant he didn't know either!)</div><div></div><div>Then later that evening, paladin lets off an AoE in an area he really shouldn't have been AoEing in, particularly as the enchanter had left ...</div><div></div><div>Paladin: oops! [FaarNerfed!]. Sorry.</div><div>Me: Look, see? I'm taking lots of damage, but it's not hitting me, it's from the intervene on the druid--</div><div>Me: *splat, dies suddenly*</div><div>Druid: *splats shortly after*</div><div>Paladin: [FaarNerfed!].</div><hr></blockquote>Man this reminds me of a group I had with my bard yesterday. It was Me a 15 Bard, a 14 Crusader, 14 Shaman, 13 Sorcerer, 12 Predator, and 13 Scout. We decided to go into Black Burrow, which was ok, because most of the stuff is green/blue to me in there, good enough exp not to complain heh, though I would have prefered Steppes Crowes.So we go down into the mining area and the tank is running around like a noob, pulling 2 - 3 group ^^ mobs at a time... The healers ask him what he's doing he says, I'm pulling, I'm not getting exp fast enough one at a time... Meanwhile he pulls 3 blue to me ^^ at 15, healers heal him and get aggro, he's not even taunting... At that point I should have left the group, but I stayed, Hit all of my group buffs songs, and whamo aggro, at that point I proceeded to tank all 3 mobs, though we were all out of power and I was at half health at the end.So I send the crusader a tell after the fight...Me: Uhm, why did you pull 3 group mobs?Crusader: I want to get exp faster.me: You know that mobs with two arrows are a good fight for a group by themselves?Crusader: No one died...*shakes head*Me: That's not the point, please only pull one mob next time.Crusader: Whatever...me: Oh btw, please use your taunt skills too, I'm NOT a tank.Crusader: Huh? What's taunt?*groans*me: You should have two of them, one is taunt, and the other is shout, make sure you have them on your hotbar.Crusader: Why what they do?me: They make sure you are doing your job as tank.Crusader: Oh... I took them off because they didn't seem to do anything, and didn't have room on my button bar.me: You can add another bar if you right click on the toolbar you have open, and make new hot bar. I have three hotbars openCrusader: Wow Cool.Me: OK, go pull now.Crusader runs off an pulls, it's only one mob... Yay!Crusader taunts once at the start of the fight, it's Crugybar the rock, who's yellow to me.I proceed to attack, first barrage down, whamo aggro,/g Taunt pleasecrusader tells the group: I did/g you need to taunt more then once per fight.After that it just went down hill getting worse and worse, I wound up being tank for 90% of the fights with the other rogues tanking off and on, and the sorcerer tanking once because of a good damage streak.We broke up shortly after the shaman bit it because the crusader pulled a group of 3 white to me, and 2 blue to me gnolls from above the spider area. Fortunately I lived and helped the shaman get back down and rez the ones that died, but then they left.This just so reminded me something I was told in a group in TS a few days ago with my monk."I'm glad Paladins get horses, it helps to weed out the noobs, and visually identify a real tank, you know the ones not on a horse."

[Kharza Xorlarr]

Ahh not to be biased (well ok maybe a little) but never in my 32 lvls have I grouped with 1 pally that was worth anything. Coterei's story reminded me of right after the agi nerf I mean "patch" I was real nervous about tanking so I let a pally tank. He couldn't keep aggro to save his life and was basically all in all worthless for the group. After about 4 to 5 close calls the regular members of my pretty static group starting sending me tells "I don't care how gimped they made you.. you tanking can't be half as bad as this [Removed for Content]". I finally spoke up and said let me tank for awhile.. exp started flying by and we pulled the named at the end of the hall np (this is right about the time I figured out "how" to tank with the new agi nerf sure it isn't as good as before but I can only hope the new mitigation patch makes life easier again). The pally had to leave about 30 min after all this started so the group was down to five.. the sham in the group pipes up and asks are we going to get a sixth member to which I responded "What is the point that guy was about worthless anyway and it was like we had 5 members anyway with 1 guy just sapping our XP". That got a laugh out of everyone and we proceeded to kick [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] for another 3 hours with a group of 5."And on the fifth day God decided to create Paladin's because he figured Darwin needed someone to write about"Khar 32 Monk Mistmoore<p>Message Edited by Kharza Xorlarrin on <span class=date_text>02-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:05 AM</span><p>Message Edited by Kharza Xorlarrin on <span class=date_text>02-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:06 AM</span>

[RadricTyc]

<DIV>Paladins/Shadow Knights are like the Bounty Hunters of SWG. Those who played it know what I mean I think. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Some of them are VERY good players, but so many want to be a Paladin that you get a much larger group of poor players as well.</DIV>

[Gaige]

<DIV>Ah BHs how my DJK hated you and your gank squads, who would camp my guild hall and houses and wait for me to come out.  Oh the fun times!</DIV>

[Didi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RadricTycho wrote:<BR> <DIV>Paladins/Shadow Knights are like the Bounty Hunters of SWG. Those who played it know what I mean I think. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Some of them are VERY good players, but so many want to be a Paladin that you get a much larger group of poor players as well. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I think you've hit the nail on the head right there.  The best tank I know in EQ2 is a paladin and he is fantastic at it.  Never loses aggro, pulls like clockwork, people come out of his groups saying "wow, I never had a tank like that". </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, just like in EQlive, paladin happens to be the #1 choice for clueless idiots who just want to be the shiny good guy on the fast horse.  It was my observation in EQlive that often the bigger jerk a person was, the more likely they were to pick paladin as a class -- which is very unfortunate for the great paladin players who are actually out there, but often highly outnumbered by the totally clueless idiots who just wanted a fast horse.</DIV>

[Gaige]

<DIV>So ironic...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So anyway about those uninformed paladins...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=30924" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=30924</A></DIV>

[Inv]

<DIV align=left>Had  good one other night was amazed. Here we are a group of friends killing in RV nightbloods. We lost a tank and as I cannot tank them worth a spit right now, we grab a LFG tank.  We get this 38SK.  He finally gets to our camp (after explaiing how to use WPs to him. should of been the first sign of a dud)  We start up pulling. SK drags some back and starts tanking on the NB not the lamia. No big deal just not the best plan. Few pulls go by we all are getting aggroed left and right so we all tone down dps some to avoid aggro. All this did was get the aggro to someone new. We ask what tuants are you using?  His response Shout and one that I assume was higher single target.....Heh 38 SK using shout... So we spend 10 mins having him get the right skills out /groan.  So he starts pulling again.  Going okay so we explain why taking out the lamia first was best. Due to them having less Hitpoints and easier to remove from fight. So he does this for a couple pulls then starts tanking the Lamias pets....  So we are like "tank the lamia not its pets the LAMIA." His response "well these have less hp then the lamia so we should kill them first..." LOL okay so we try to explain they die when their mater dies.... Now hes so confused hes tanking stuff at random and all the scouts start using me as assist to get on the right targets! lol    Only thing in his favor was that he wore plate so he took a decent beating lol.   On a side note he did die 3 times due to his arrow key sticking sometimes. So we find him out in BFE pulling running in a circle with mobs beating the stufing out of him! HAHAAH would think that would be something you would fix ebfore playing.    In the end everyone was telling me "I sure hope they fix you guys soon the tank IQ factor of the majortiy is really freaking low!"</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>Was a good laugh but man it was like trying to train a [FAAR-NERFED!] dog.</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV>

[Coter]

<blockquote><hr>Invic wrote:<DIV align=left>Had good one other night was amazed. Here we are a group of friends killing in RV nightbloods. We lost a tank and as I cannot tank them worth a spit right now, we grab a LFG tank. We get this 38SK. He finally gets to our camp (after explaiing how to use WPs to him. should of been the first sign of a dud) We start up pulling. SK drags some back and starts tanking on the NB not the lamia. No big deal just not the best plan. Few pulls go by we all are getting aggroed left and right so we all tone down dps some to avoid aggro. All this did was get the aggro to someone new. We ask what tuants are you using? His response Shout and one that I assume was higher single target.....Heh 38 SK using shout... So we spend 10 mins having him get the right skills out /groan. So he starts pulling again. Going okay so we explain why taking out the lamia first was best. Due to them having less Hitpoints and easier to remove from fight. So he does this for a couple pulls then starts tanking the Lamias pets.... So we are like "tank the lamia not its pets the LAMIA." His response "well these have less hp then the lamia so we should kill them first..." LOL okay so we try to explain they die when their mater dies.... Now hes so confused hes tanking stuff at random and all the scouts start using me as assist to get on the right targets! lol Only thing in his favor was that he wore plate so he took a decent beating lol. On a side note he did die 3 times due to his arrow key sticking sometimes. So we find him out in BFE pulling running in a circle with mobs beating the stufing out of him! HAHAAH would think that would be something you would fix ebfore playing. In the end everyone was telling me "I sure hope they fix you guys soon the tank IQ factor of the majortiy is really freaking low!"</div><DIV align=left> </div><DIV align=left>Was a good laugh but man it was like trying to train a [FAAR-NERFED!] dog.</div><DIV align=left> </div><DIV align=left> </div><hr></blockquote>Well not to stick up for the SK here, but Decree of Decay, the SKs upgrade area taunt is broken, it does just about nothing, even at adept 1. It's supposed to be a small disease ae damage, with taunt, the disease damage does not hit ever, and the taunt is a lot less then it should be because of the supposed disease damage it's supposed to do.I will say that he is definitely one of the less then capable crusader tanks though, even with my bugged skills on my SK I tank quite well, just have to know how to handle ae aggro better, and tell the casters not to unload AEs right off the pull. Every group I've been a tank in has said, you know, you're the best tank I've had in a while.

[Isu]

OMG in heaven... this guy just won't admit he's wrong, will he? I mean, there's every kind of information under the sun and he just won't accept it. It's actually kind of funny.

[Aftershock]

<DIV>its weird aye?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I mean every team i usually join has me there for just dps...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now right when i join, they all say "wow your ac and res are better then our tanks." then i say "well ill tank if yall want me to." then the tank proceeds to freak out and cry/whine about it, blah blah blah, want some cheese?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Basically im sayin, that every grp i join i get invited as a DPS, but then proceed to be the best tank they ever saw!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW im only lvl 25, so my tankin may be poo pooer as i get higher from what i hear.</DIV>

[Bi]

was in a group as a dps tonight killing goliaths.The tank lvls, and as it's late says he has to go; and leaves. The warden says: i guess that's it for tonight then and starts to coq.I say I can tank; and so he cancels coq + runs up to me... pulling 2 1up yellow giants (im 26, so they would be 27-2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> the scout/dps then backs into another 2 1up giants <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I AE taunt quickly off the healer, and cancel thundering fists; and cast brawlers stance; and quickly cast woz, followed by fotm. By this time the healer hasnt given me any buffs; I dont have phins up, and the healer gives me 1 direct heal; but fotm/woz brings the other 2 giants (also yellow2up) to me.so naturally, im goin down quicker than a sack of potatoes..The scout THEN evacs; and the group leader tells me that they are going to "look for a real tank"pretty embarassing : all I can think of is.. completely unprepared facing 4 yellow 1ups with no buffs/heals on me- what was I supposed to do? and would any tank be in a better position? Admittedly i took 3 hits in a row at the start, but I dont see how this stops a healer healing..For the record I tanked the named goliath, and his 4 minions today; orange 2up/4orange norms.. they repopped immediately and we didnt do so well the 2nd time around; but killed the 2nd pop on the 2nd try ;OI dont know if this is me being unlucky; or if in this sort of "clutch" situation as G-Fist puts it.. Monks dont perform better - if there was nothing i could do, or if I shouldnt tank because Im not good enough to :/Roll on patch, is all i can say..

[Coter]

So two night ago I was in TS soloing skeles near varsoons while I was LFG, and I see in OOC group of 4 looking for more for Varsoons, have healer and tank, and I was like cool, sounds good to me. So I /tell the guy "26 monk, I'll join you." He responds "sorry too low", I laugh to myself, and send him a /tell "Lol, OK, I've been in there before and had no problems, your loss," he responds "yeah right." He stands there for the next 20 minutes oocing for more, about 15 minutes go by after they go in and he's back outside oocing again, "Starting varsoons group 27+, pst..", just for S&G's I send him a tell again, "26 monk, I'll join you..." 3 minutes go by, "no thanks... 27+ only..." About 2 minutes later another group comes out of Varsoon's and sees me there LFG and invites me, and a mystic who is LFG, we go in, about 15 minutes later the other guy finally has a group together and comes into the golem area where my group was camping. They wipe out, my groups been fighting like a champ for the last 10 minutes, a bunch of the folks in the group I'm in start loling, and I asked what's up, they all said they kicked him out because he didn't know what he was doing. I walk over to the guy and /tell him, I told you I've been here with out a problem, sorry bout your wipe though. He sends be a response "bah, /ignore."The guy they kicked out was a 29 Templar.<p>Message Edited by Coterei on <span class=date_text>02-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:05 PM</span>

[bonesbro]

<DIV>26 really is too low for the golem area, though.  Half the pulls are level 33 mobs.  At the 7 level difference your accuraccy will drop off a cliff.  At 8 levels of difference you'll be hitting maybe 10% of the time.  It's better to have a 6th man in the group at 26 then do it with 5, but I'd usually rather hold out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Game mechanics like that mean that you <STRONG>can</STRONG> just flat out be too low for an area.</DIV>

[Coter]

<blockquote><hr>bonesbro wrote:<DIV>26 really is too low for the golem area, though. Half the pulls are level 33 mobs. At the 7 level difference your accuraccy will drop off a cliff. At 8 levels of difference you'll be hitting maybe 10% of the time. It's better to have a 6th man in the group at 26 then do it with 5, but I'd usually rather hold out.</div><DIV> </div><DIV>Game mechanics like that mean that you <STRONG>can</strong> just flat out be too low for an area.</div><hr></blockquote>I was there at 24 it depends on the group more then anything else, if you have a druid and bard based class there you are still effective even at 24. Sure I was only hitting the level 33s only 25 - 30% of the time, but the level 30 - 32's which are the most common in the area's weren't a problem at all. And with the group that he had, a Fury, Troubador, Templar, Guardian, there was no reason not to add me instead of standing around for 20 minutes looking for others when they could have been inside getting exp with me and the 26 assassin that was also lfg.Hell the group I was in at 24 had a 26 guardian as MT, a 24 ranger, a 27 Shaman, 29 Inquisitor, and a 27 Wizard.

[Yusonge]

Can I please steal this for my sig? "I'm glad Paladins get horses, it helps to weed out the noobs, and visually identify a real tank, you know the ones not on a horse."

[Coter]

<blockquote><hr>Yusonge wrote:Can I please steal this for my sig? "I'm glad Paladins get horses, it helps to weed out the noobs, and visually identify a real tank, you know the ones not on a horse."<hr></blockquote>I don't mind, it was a quote from someone I grouped with once, not my own creation.

[xrippe]

<DIV>I was told by the SK who was blue to me in my group yesterday</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Yen for gods sake stop tanking, Your a monk your not suppose to tank"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now the reason I taunted was because he was going to DIE.... I yanked aggro and finished tanking the mob and barely got scratched.  He let me MT after that =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yenyang Angrydragon</DIV> <DIV>32 Ogre Monk</DIV> <DIV>Kithicore</DIV>