Monks Rewards

[healimonst]

<DIV>I just turned 26 and was rewarded with another non-attack related attack skill; I think Sparking Cobra was the last thing I have received that actually did any damage. What is with these tanking skills of increasing hate and  increased deffense and the like if we can't tank?<BR>(Don’t want to start another monk tank debate but it can’t be argued that monks should be MTs if guardians or paladins are available)<BR> <BR>My other question, when I turned 26 I was able to choose another skill or power not sure what it is called (but it is that green box with a plus sign) so I picked leadership and it conned white or gray to me? Did I just pick a crappy skill? Why would I be able to pick a skill that has little to no effect at my age?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks for any suggestions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> healimonster wrote:<BR> <DIV>I just turned 26 and was rewarded with another non-attack related attack skill; I think Sparking Cobra was the last thing I have received that actually did any damage. What is with these tanking skills of increasing hate and  increased deffense and the like <FONT color=#ffff00>if we can't tank?<BR></FONT>(Don’t want to start another monk tank debate but it can’t be argued that monks should be MTs if guardians or paladins are available)<BR> <BR>My other question, when I turned 26 I was able to choose another skill or power not sure what it is called (but it is that green box with a plus sign) so I picked leadership and it conned white or gray to me? Did I just pick a crappy skill? Why would I be able to pick a skill that has little to no effect at my age?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks for any suggestions.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry to burst your bubble but you get those skills because we can tank.  If you want to just do damage pick another class.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Ala]

<DIV><FONT size=2>Sparking Cobra is an upgrade for your Assault.  To view combat art upgrads </FONT><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=1037" target=_blank><FONT size=2>click here</FONT></A><FONT size=2>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Below are the combat arts (rather than rewards) you obtain between the time you obtained Sparking Cobra and your current level.  Red indicates damage attacks.  If you are missing anything, check your knowledge icon list.  If your toolbar was full it will not add the new skill once you obtained it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Green includes combat arts that allow us to take agro from non-fighter classes (I'm avoiding the tank debate <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). This list can be found </FONT><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=1" target=_blank><FONT size=2>here</FONT></A><FONT size=2>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3300 size=2>21 - Sparking Cobra (A multi-enemy lightning damage attack)<BR></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#66cc00>21 - Tranquil Blessing (Allows a monk to bestow a lower hate active buff on an ally)<BR>22 - Hand Clap (Increases hate towards the monk and interrupts all enemies in an encounter)</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff3300>22 - Swooping Dragon (Launches a flying kick at the monk's target)<BR></FONT>23 - Wisdom of Zephyl (Increases the offense of the group and increases the damage of the monk)<BR></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff3300>24 - Grappling Bear (A lower damage attack that interrupts the enemy)<BR></FONT>24 - Wind Walk (Allows a monk to travel invisibly until the monk is drained of power)<BR></FONT><FONT color=#66cc00 size=2>25 - Rescue (Rescue increases your hate position by 1)<BR></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff3300>25 - Plodding Tortoise (A medium damage attack that can be used while stunned)<BR></FONT>26 - Face of the mountain (Increases a monk's armor and roots him in place)<BR>26 - Karmic Focus (Increases parry and greatly increases deflection)<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>As far as your tanking comment... I'm collecting and analyzing  tons of data from the log files to put hard data to the "can we tank" debate.  First clue, change your meaning of "tank".  Second clue, they are giving us these combat arts for a reason <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Alarr on <span class=date_text>12-21-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:52 PM</span>

[RadricTyc]

<DIV>You will get to pick again.  When the next patch goes live, we all get to repick our skills... I think.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway my suggestion when you have a choice about stats to pick, if one of them is Agility, then pick that.  Failing that, if you can pick either Strength or Stamina then do it, your choice.  Obviously if you see something that you would MUCH rather have than better base stats, go for it.  But my feeling is that a monk can never have too much agility. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems that some Agility buffs that other players can place on us are percentage based (Gage correct me if I am wrong) and that means if you want to tank, maxing out that agility score is definitely going to help when you get a percentage based Agility buff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last night at level 26 I was tanking with a 122 Agility.  That was a pretty cool experience I must say <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RadricTycho wrote:<BR> <DIV>You will get to pick again.  When the next patch goes live, we all get to repick our skills... I think.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway my suggestion when you have a choice about stats to pick, if one of them is Agility, then pick that.  Failing that, if you can pick either Strength or Stamina then do it, your choice.  Obviously if you see something that you would MUCH rather have than better base stats, go for it.  But my feeling is that a monk can never have too much agility. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems that some Agility buffs that other players can place on us are percentage based (Gage correct me if I am wrong) and that means if you want to tank, maxing out that agility score is definitely going to help when you get a percentage based Agility buff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Last night at level 26 I was tanking with a 122 Agility.</FONT>  That was a pretty cool experience I must say <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That is very nice.  Last night at 43 I was tanking with 155 so I'd say you're doing well.  Although I bought another runner's ring since then.</P> <P>Yeah in my opinion its: agility, strength and then stamina.  Stamina leads to your overall HPs, agility of course is for deflection, and strength helps you to hit harder.</P> <P>IMO.<BR></P>

[DrrakoXhaoXi]

<DIV>I almost never tank I usually get groups that are looking for DPS people. I just consider myself a DPS that can take hits hehe =)</DIV>

[healimonst]

<blockquote><hr>Gage-Mikel wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble but you get those skills because we can tank. If you want to just do damage pick another class.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><hr></blockquote>Yeah I think Gage has a tanking complex. I never tank unless I have to. Sure Monks can tank that is not what I was saying. What I was saying since we are an offense based class one would think that we would be bestowed some high level attacks more often.

[LothostheUnse]

<DIV>I think Gage, like many of us, is probably just tired of many posts based on Eqlive conceptions of monks, stating that monks can't tank, that they're just DPS and not as good as scouts, that they're broken, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is enough misinformation here and in-game that it proves frustrating to those who can and do successfully tank with a monk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't call it a complex.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That said I think its interesting how higher DPS + Avoidance is HOW monks tank.  That is our method for tanking.  Its not tanking plus DPS, the higher DPS is part of how our tanking works.   Posts asking only about DPS miss this issue and thereby confuse the matter.</DIV>

[Grabaan]

Well put Lothos and Gage (as usual)

[i3ry]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I was saying since we are an offense based class one would think that we would be bestowed some high level attacks more often.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Please, do us all a favor and delete your monk so you can play a scout.<BR>

[Apathet]

<blockquote><hr>i3ry2k wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>What I was saying since we are an offense based class one would think that we would be bestowed some high level attacks more often.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Please, do us all a favor and delete your monk so you can play a scout.<BR><hr></blockquote>LOL!

[healimonst]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P> <HR> </P> <P>i3ry2k wrote:</P> <P>Please, do us all a favor and delete your monk so you can play a scout.<BR></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Aces!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Have you heard about this Evac thing!</DIV> <DIV>It R0XX!</DIV>