Fabled Set barely worth all the peices...

[Gortesh]

<div></div>If you've gotten a chance to look at all the other set peices for other tanking classes then you'll know why. Post EoF mitigation is almost nothing, everyone focuses more on avoidance than anyhting.Every other tanking class gets a +deflection or defense, SK's even get <font color="#ff0000">TWENTY POINTS<font color="#ffffff">.This is total BS imo, their giving al the other tanks the option to get useful set peice additions and we get.....double attack...+100 hate....30 second off demolish?Hardly worth the trouble IMO. Thanks tons SoE!For those who havent been able to see all the new peices, Xanadu provides a nice website to see the further destruction of this class through set pieces...<a href="http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/eq2_loot.php?BrowseNPC=1&exp_id=7&pack_id=19&zone_id=77" target=_blank>Linkie!!!</a></font></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Gortesh on <span class=date_text>12-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:23 PM</span>

[Judist]

<DIV>Bah ima idiot, was looking at the guard set. Yea, that kinda sucks.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by BeatinGuts on <span class=date_text>12-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:10 PM</span>

[Amon`]

<DIV>I agree with you, we get 1 bonus for having all the pieces and 9% is too low. Look at what guardian and paladin or any other tank gets, just adding a simple 9% d.a. is not on par with their full set bonus(es). If all it is going to add is double attack, I would say the 20% area is more acceptable. 30 sec on demolish is ok, but it is not even that great of a skill anymore, I will take 10 def or parry or some such anyday over it.</DIV>

[Legiax]

<DIV>Looking forward to double attacking on a 1.5k auto attack lol.</DIV>

[PhoenixTears]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Legiax wrote:<BR> <DIV>Looking forward to double attacking on a 1.5k auto attack lol.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i already double attack 1.8 k auto attacks 80% of the time...and higher with crits... the 9% double attack is crap if you use a buckler ...id rather they have given us some more rampage procs.. or more targets on open wounds...  hell even a good ammount of melee crits or somthing.  i doubt the dev who designed our set even knows what a berserkers aa's are or what we would benefit from.

[Legiax]

<P>Im not using a buckler, so i'll be looking at a 3k auto attack :p</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[zormik]

<P>Guys we get additions that we don't need. Don't you see a guardian is running away further  and further from us when it comes to defense?  We are lagging behind more and more.  If you see what dps-classes got these xpack we'll be lagging behind on all fronts ...</P> <P>We're a tank.  Give us some nice defensive options too.  I don't know what soe is trying to achieve here but it looks like the berserker is gonna become the ugly brother in the corner nobody looks at if SOE is gonna continue like this...</P>

[Jvaloth]

<P>Ya, I'm really concerned.  I could give a rats [Removed for Content] about dps.   We need some freaking tanking options.</P> <P> </P> <P>The fact that all of our AA's went towards DPS is stupid.  Atleast in KoS we could chose to be tanks.  EoF is making us straight DPS and thats not what I signed up for.</P> <P> </P> <P>I'm the MT of my guild and I need options that reinforce this role,  not diminish it.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Necodem]

<DIV>Zerk = dps tank...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In EQ1 Zerk were one of the best close combat DPS...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With a 2h you'll be able to get double atk, which is great as you'll be able to lands 5k+ x2. ( And there more than only 1 item that give bonus to double atk)</DIV>

[Renzai]

<DIV>Yep some tanking mods would be nice, considering we're supposed to be tanks, and not some chain wearing axe throwing close combat DPS class. I mean not everyone has respeced to DPS build right?</DIV>

[Huna]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Necodemus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Zerk = dps tank...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In EQ1 Zerk were one of the best close combat DPS...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With a 2h you'll be able to get double atk, which is great as you'll be able to lands 5k+ x2. ( And there more than only 1 item that give bonus to double atk)</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>what other items give a bonus to double attack?  Also, you are hitting 5K+ on each attack? what weapon are you using?</DIV>

[PhoenixTears]

you can easily land 5k attacks and higher with vraksakins claw club, but with a 9% chance to double attack    IF    you have all 7 peices  still wouldnt make it worth it.  for a lot of zerkers it might be better to use vraksakin than a buckler. but if you have some of the higher end 1 handers the buckler line is a lot better.  so all of the zerkers who use the buckler wont care about the double attack, and all of the zerkers who dont wont realy care either.   And this is IF u even get the full set.  honestly only a few zerkers world wide will ever even have the full set.

[Oldlore]

Just looking at the first effect at (3), berskers and paladins get shafted with +100 hate compared to +10 defense (guard) or +20 defense (sk).  The 7 piece effect isn't relevant to 97% of berserkers who'll never wear 7 pieces.<div></div>

[Psykil]

<DIV>Plain and simple, or class set bonus on our gear sucks, were not the only ones tho, look at warlocks. Im not saying that makes it right, im just saying they need to look at these items and balance them with others. If you want to see something else that might [Removed for Content] you off, take a look at token purchased class specific vendor bought gear on PvP servers.</DIV>

[Gortesh]

<DIV>Lol, the Zerker PvP set has better bonuses than the Raid Set does. It's sad how they made the raid set 'better' in sooo many ways.  /sarcasm off</DIV>

[Amon`]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Legiax wrote:<BR> <P>Im not using a buckler, so i'll be looking at a 3k auto attack :p</P> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Your autoattack won't be 3k, you would get a 3k through double attack a whopping 9% of the time.</P><p>Message Edited by Amon` on <span class=date_text>12-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:03 AM</span>

[Legiax]

<DIV>thats what i was implying.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not hard to realise is it?</DIV>

[Gortesh]

<DIV>Still trying to figure out what you guys are meaning here...your saying 3k, do you mean a 3k HIT or a 3k parse? If you can get a 3k parse then what weapons are you using?</DIV>

[Legiax]

<DIV>I said originally i swing for 1.5k</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My next comment was about me double attacking and swinging for 3k.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So all in all... a nice 3k auto attack. Silly people not reading all the posts.</DIV>