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Fazzarya
11-15-2006, 10:54 PM
<DIV>Stats aren't spectacular, only a 73.8 DR 30str, 23sta 16 agi (I think going off memory.</DIV> <DIV>160 health 110 power a couple resists and has a 2% increase to crit chance. It parses a LOT better then I thought it would and it looks so godamn cool!</DIV> <DIV>Gotten out of the Acadecia or whatever it is called from on top of Crushbone keep.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://home.comcast.net/~rhdkp/sword.JPG"></DIV>

Nembutal
11-16-2006, 01:57 AM
Hmm...That belongs in WoW... not EQ2... it weighs too much to be practical.. it's a cartoon toy.I do like the detail... but realistically that would never be a real weapon.<div></div>

swordfel
11-16-2006, 02:39 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nembutal wrote:<BR>Hmm...<BR><BR>That belongs in WoW... not EQ2... it weighs too much to be practical.. it's a cartoon toy.<BR><BR>I do like the detail... but realistically that would never be a real weapon.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>i dunno, to me it seems to have the same sort of style as the oggokian house items (oggokian chair, oggokian table, etc...). i wouldnt be surprised if that was originally an ogre or even an orc sword. it fits in with what their other stuff looks like. maybe slightly on the cartoonish side, but cool nonetheless. as long as they dont go too crazy stuff like this i think it looks ok.</P>

Facedown
11-16-2006, 03:03 AM
I think it looks great <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

Clailmebe
11-16-2006, 03:04 AM
That looks really awesome! Ive never really been impressed with the weapon graphics in the game, even the glowies were basically just a normal looking sword with red stuff around it. I personally hope they added more weapons like this, btw what lvl is the weapon?

Nembutal
11-16-2006, 03:07 AM
Yes... is does look kinda like an oggok table.My table weighs about 100 lbs... I do not try to smite my enemies with it.Just because something is done in a similar style does not mean that it suddenly becomes an effective weapon.  That is like saying "hey swords are metal... this car is metal... I will swing this car at them and see if I can chop thier head off"This is WoW stuff... cartoonish.  It goes in line with the nerfed death penalties, the arenas, the duels, the increased loot rewards, the faster exp gain and everything else that SOE has altered to attract WoW customers... which is sad because many of us picked EQ2 because we didn't want to play WoW.... if people wanted to play WoW I suggest to  them to go buy WoW and play it... not stick around and see if EQ2 will turn into WoW.I just like variety... EQ2 was at one point in time more difficult and more realistic... now we have giant glowing flowers and swords that would weigh 175 lbs made out of what seems to be some sort of black rock a stick and some rope... and they made sure to fasten all the spare weights near thier weight bench to the handle for a hand guard.If EQ2 = WoW where do people that liked what EQ2 was go?  Vanguard?<div></div>

aias
11-16-2006, 03:14 AM
<P>C'mon!  How can you not like it?  It's the Sword of a Thousand Truths! :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P>The sword is just fine.  </P> <P> </P>

swordfel
11-16-2006, 03:32 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nembutal wrote:<BR><BR>My table weighs about 100 lbs... I do not try to smite my enemies with it.<BR><BR>Just because something is done in a similar style does not mean that it suddenly becomes an effective weapon.  That is like saying "hey swords are metal... this car is metal... I will swing this car at them and see if I can chop thier head off"<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>try explaining this to an ogre and see how far you get :smileywink:</P> <P>i dont really know what to say about this sword. i mean, its cool and all, but your right, it couldnt be an effective weapon irl. still, this is a fantasy game, for all we know, that black rock it seems to be made of could be extremely light. </P> <P>if you look at it from a lore perspective, i think its not unlikely that an ogre or orc or even a troll might have come up with this. furthermore, youll notice that the stats arent exactly spectacular.  this isnt to say there won't be fabled stuff with the same graphic, but its not exactly effective in game either atm, so some form of realism is still there (unless, of course, a better sword with the same graphic is discovered.<BR></P>

Fazzarya
11-16-2006, 08:51 AM
<P>The blade itself is actually pretty thin. I would honestly say, following the lore of how strong ogres are, that this could within the EQ universe quite easily could be an ogre sword.</P> <P>The sword is a lvl 63 weapon.</P>

Besual
11-16-2006, 01:46 PM
For my taste it's too cartoonish / manga style. It's not only the sword. Look at the gloves and the shoulders... already having a quite big manga touch.<div></div>

Gortesh
11-16-2006, 06:39 PM
Got it on my Gnome zerker last night. I wear it around town now, all the people who dont have EoF or are just starting out go gaga over it! xD<div></div>

Taeolen
11-16-2006, 06:42 PM
Oh, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] them!  People wiggle their fingers and shoot out fireballs and glowing swords and hammers that smash mobs.  How dare they break realism with this cartoony looking sword!

Gortesh
11-16-2006, 06:44 PM
It actually is'nt cartoony one bit. If you think about it, the Bugbears fashion all their weapons from stone, so it's only natural that they make crud elooking weapons. Also the bugbears are quite large and if you find one of them with this sword in their hand, it looks poportioned to the bugbear!<div></div>

Renzai
11-16-2006, 08:17 PM
<DIV>Nice looking graphic.</DIV>

Nembutal
11-17-2006, 12:59 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>swordfel wrote:<p>if you look at it from a lore perspective, i think its not unlikely that an ogre or orc or even a troll might have come up with this. furthermore, youll notice that the stats arent exactly spectacular.  this isnt to say there won't be fabled stuff with the same graphic, but its not exactly effective in game either atm, so some form of realism is still there (unless, of course, a better sword with the same graphic is discovered.</p><hr></blockquote>Yes the design looks crude which is similar to ogre and troll design for living arrangements... I will agree with that.However I walk into work daily... I work on computers.  I have been doing it for like 10 years or so now.You don't see me walking around with an Acer laptop.... because I know my trade.An ogre wielding a weapon made out of rock and twine at the level this weapon is gained is... well dumb.  Any "toon" in EQ2 is skilled in the art of killing... even priests after like lvl 30 you could say they are "pros" at it... I mean the guards in your city paid for by your king or queen start looking like targets for easy loot.And yet you are going to fight with a rock tied to a stick with some twine....</div>

Pallida-Mors
11-17-2006, 03:49 AM
<P>I think its nice that we got some new weapon / armor graphics. I also think this sword looks really nice.</P> <P>As for the vehemently opposed poster, relax man, we get that you don't like it, and we won't try to make you like it, but stop throwing RL into the mix, of a fantasy video game. </P> <P>If it makes ya feel better think of it as "enchanted to be the perfect weight to fight with, for your racial size" :smileytongue:</P> <P>you can use the "realistic swords" - pass me one of these please. :smileyhappy:</P> <P>/2c</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Taeolen
11-17-2006, 04:10 AM
Is it even rock for sure?  It kind of looks like a dark rough shaped metal too.

ailen
11-17-2006, 05:01 AM
<P>I read some of these posts to my wife who also plays the game and I tell you, wow...  there are sure some everquest snobs in this game.</P> <P>I mean, we want to talk about realism in a game where there isn't any.</P> <P>I see a picture of Big ogre,  with a fierce looking weapon on it's back.</P> <P>Let me ask you this.  What is the most unreal thing in this picture?  The most UNREAL looking thing in that picture is the OGRE itself.</P> <P>Ogre to me, speaks of walking into a place, and smashing the you know what out of it.  An Ogre should be wielding the biggest most absurd weapon in the game, not some pansy little sword that any human would use.  If I had it my way, there'd be more realism in the game, in the aspect of this, and Ogres would be walking around with elves as crush weapons, and dual weilding gnomes.</P> <P>I think it's cool looking.  Good Job SOE.</P> <P> give it a rest people... there's nothing "realistic" about this game. </P><p>Message Edited by morxus on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:05 PM</span>

Gortesh
11-17-2006, 07:13 PM
<P>Actually..there are real things about this game...here are a few:</P> <P>1. Armor is real</P> <P>2. Weapons are real</P> <P>3. The economic system is the game is kind of like a mirrored reflection of the real world money systems.</P> <P>4. The Broker is sort of an auction house, but I like to think of it as one of those Rent-A-Center places, except you cant return items...</P> <P>5. We have multiple animals in the game that are real.</P> <P>6. GNOMES ARE REAL!(shut up)</P> <P>So yea...for all of you ''omg this game is getting too cartoony'' people. Look BEYOND the weapons and armor and look into the small aspects of the game.</P> <P>Once again...awesome sword graphic, people keep asking me where its from and I can't tell them because I cant remember the name of the instance!</P>

Zaknafiend
11-17-2006, 09:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Taeolen wrote:<BR> Oh, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] them!  People wiggle their fingers and shoot out fireballs and glowing swords and hammers that smash mobs.  How dare they break realism with this cartoony looking sword!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>THANK YOU!

terrified kill
11-21-2006, 03:25 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Fazzarya wrote:<div></div> <div>Stats aren't spectacular, only a 73.8 DR 30str, 23sta 16 agi (I think going off memory.</div> <div>160 health 110 power a couple resists and has a 2% increase to crit chance. It parses a LOT better then I thought it would and it looks so godamn cool!</div> <div>Gotten out of the Acadecia or whatever it is called from on top of Crushbone keep.</div> <div> </div> <div><img src="http://home.comcast.net/%7Erhdkp/sword.JPG"></div><hr></blockquote>SWEET SWORD! I WANT THAT! WHERED YOU GET IT? CAN I HAVE IT? PLZ IT LOOKS REALLY REALLY SWEET ON A ZERKER!!!</div>

IrishWonder
11-21-2006, 05:23 PM
<DIV>It drops off of the first named in the Acadechism... the big Vaz'Gok statue right in front of you when you zone in. He drops a couple really cool looking 2h's. I was duo'ing the zone with a bruiser the other day and he dropped a big 2h club that was made out of the same black rock texture. It looked more like a giant [Removed for Content] on the bruiser's back :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

Wargurine
11-21-2006, 09:40 PM
actually is a random drop in the zone. Any mob, including the trash, can drop it. Seems to be pretty frequent too, have gotten 4 to drop in one run through before.<div></div>

yreka
11-21-2006, 11:59 PM
Yep, I actually got mine from one of those mana sieve wisp thingies.  Pretty wierd seeing a big metal chest drop from a nickle sized mob, but I'm not complaining <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

Nembutal
11-22-2006, 01:08 AM
There is fantasy and there they is just bizzare.For instance... if I wanted to have my ogre do a flatuence attack (farts in case I spelled it wrong) that would be [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]... and you would all agree.  However that is something an ogre is known for (Smelling bad)I draw the line at weapons that can not be wielded properly in combat... you don't draw the line until potty humor... that does not make me a snob.  What it does mean is that you don't give a #%^$# about my opinion... which is fine.  But last I checked I was entitled to mine and I think the sword looks lame because it could not be wielded properly.  I will not change my opinion on that.<div></div>

ailen
11-22-2006, 04:46 AM
<P>you can have an opinion. sure.  no argument there.</P> <P>however, if I disagree with your opinion, then well.. that's just that.  </P> <P>the argument "it doesn't look real" is pretty weak.  Don't like how it looks on your toon, fine.. don't use it.   People here state they like it, then eat a little dogfood here, and learn to respect their opinions, as you are demanding for us to respect yours.  </P> <P>'nuff said.</P>

Mordicus
11-22-2006, 08:10 PM
<P>With so many copy/paste models these days im happy to see anything new, though that Orc in Crushbone's instance needs to go. The animation and the spikey hair reminds me of that other game.... </P> <P>Anyway, nice sword man, i like it.</P>

Bozojrill1
11-25-2006, 11:05 AM
Looks awesome, i find it kind of ironic people are saying that the weapon isnt realistic.......in a fantasy game<div></div>

Wolfguard6
11-27-2006, 05:17 PM
You know that thing is really sharp looking wish other items had that much detail to them.. I want one and for those who say it belongs in WoW um if you look at it.  Looks like its made of obsidian witch is very light weight metamorphic rock so. It could be lighter then it seems. Also your telling me a Ogre can not wield that I can heft 2000+ in weight. Plus it may look bigger for a ogre is carrying it. Could be smaller on other races. Either way going to hunt in there a lot to find it. Looks cool just to add to collection of weapon so wish I could mount them in my home. That be on mantel of my fire place.

Kursa
12-01-2006, 01:24 PM
<div></div>HOLY CRAP awesome sword!!Don't listen to the EQnoob sayers. This is a fantasy game.....cant argue about a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sword when you have 2 foot fae flying about nuking things 80 times their sizeThis is exactly what we EQ2 fans are dying for.  Some invigoratting and exciting new designs!!!Who the heck cares if it looks WOWish (Which IT DOES NOT, BTW)....looks nothing like WoWLove love LOVE IT!!Art Devs, keep up the great work!! This is what I i like to see<p>Message Edited by Kursa on <span class=date_text>12-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:26 AM</span>

Nembutal
12-01-2006, 07:35 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Wolfguard6 wrote:<div></div>Also your telling me a Ogre can not wield that I can heft 2000+ in weight. <hr></blockquote>Yeah... but realistically should we be able to lift 2000 weight?  I mean I admit it's handy but carrying 2000 lbs and not even being encumbered seems extreme to me... even for fantasy... for a super hero game... sure... but for this genre it seems outta whack.  Using 1 thing that is a bit whacked to justify another one doesn't really do it for me.I mean you guys can like it and all... and I do have my little light-saber thing as a weap... but that doesn't mean we haven't tipped into WoW graphics to match the WoW mechanics that have been leaking into the game for over a year now.</div>

Renzai
12-01-2006, 08:47 PM
<DIV> I'm glad I can still enjoy sword graphics without overanalyzing the impact it may have on my perception of fantasy games.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Renzai on <span class=date_text>12-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:49 AM</span>

eland
12-02-2006, 01:35 AM
<DIV>I actually don't find it looks all that impractical or unreallistic at all, assuming we accept the excistence of Ogre-type humanoids.  It would not be practical for a human, nor would it be wielded using the same form as a standard two-handed sword, but I could see it being used by an Ogre or Bugbear quite easily.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Let's look at the properties of the weapon.  It's obviously a heavy weapon, and likely has a great deal of weight near the end of the blade.  It's also a single-edged sword, with a curved blade similar to a katana or scimitar.  It's clearly not a weapon conducive to a lengthy finesse-style fight, but how would it work for a brute-force approach used by a humanoid much bigger and stronger than any living human?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would picture a fighting style that opens with the sword being held vertically, either overhead or at the shoulder.  Strikes would be either on a downward plane letting gravity assist the wielder, or letting the blade dip horrizontally and exploding into a strike using quick hip rotation to generate force.  The follow through would lead to a slow recovery, so the fighting style would rely on forcing opponents off-balance or killing them quickly.  Also, with the momentum generated by the sword, the curved shape of the blade should be extremely effective at splitting a wooden shield or slicing through armour.  So while an elven ranger could avoid the strike quite easily, a typical soldier in chainmail with a broadsword and shield may have a difficult time defending against such an attack.  Of course, this weapons would not be particularly practical for defending, but the fighting style would be about using size and reach to keep distance between the attacker and his opponent, and using force to keep the opponent off balance and kill swiftly.  It doesn't have to be an ideal weapon to be realistic - after all, we're talking about blades designed by Ogres and Orcs - it just needs to kill.</DIV>

Odama
12-02-2006, 05:09 AM
I love the detail on many of the weapons in this game, that sword is pretty badass... wish they got that creative with plate armor.

AsukaKazuma
12-02-2006, 09:36 AM
That's a VERY lovely sword graphic! <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>As for its viability in combat, let me explain something to all the nay-sayers out here. Swords are made to be used. In fact, your typical greatsword - roughly as long as the average human is tall - weighs in just slightly over <i>six pounds. </i>The only thing stopping someone from wielding it with one hand is the center of balance requiring a large grip. Even then, someone with large hands (i.e. an ogre) could easily get around this through size and sheer brute force. So, I think it's rather silly the kinda stigma these lovely weapons get from people who scream 'realism' at the top of their lungs when they have absolutely no idea as to what 'realistic' is. *Sigh*<div></div>

Hubo
12-04-2006, 03:01 AM
I'm sure I am not alone in enjoying items that look "different" than the standard longsword. So for that...I say kudos !

LygerT
12-04-2006, 11:14 AM
<DIV>i got that sword the day of the expansion and sold it to the vendor the day of the expansion..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>usefullness over eye candy- i hate having full packs stacked with useless things. </DIV><p>Message Edited by LygerT on <span class=date_text>12-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:16 PM</span>

theredraven
12-08-2006, 02:04 AM
<P>right now im laughing at you all when you say the sword looks....."unrealistic". you really dont see ogres walking around in our world either which is even more unrealistic. so everone just cool it, and for yalls info this is a "fanstasy" game. and if u dont like it go play something else cuz no one wants to hear you complain. because if you dont like the game you need to realize that there is no point in trying to convince everyone else that it "sucks" and that "SOE is stupid".</P> <P> </P> <P>wow finally got that out</P>