Berserkers, an AA thread for the DPS in all of us...

[Superfranki]

<P><SPAN>Ok Ok, I'm going to start out by satisfying all of you potential flamers / tank-v-DPS argument people out there. Yes berserkers are tanks. Yes in about 99% of my operation I play a very successful group tank. Yes I enjoy tanking and am not in groups based on potential AoE DPS.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>With that out of the way, this post is not about the tanking aspect of my life. It is based on the 'how can I help the guild the very most' aspect. I am in a guild that has a VERY stable MT (Guard for all of you that are wondering) and an equally stable MA/OT (SK, but that is besides the point of this post). This leaves me the opportunity to be a great grinding/single group content tank, but it leaves me with little use in the raid for the increase in Mitigation/Parry/Avoidance/Whatever it is that everyone thinks it the best AA path to take for tanking. To cut this argument off at the knees, no I will not reroll a scout/mage. It took me most of my spare time to get to the level that I’m at and I am not going to make a new toon and start over as a twink. Plus I find that I do a great job as a single group content tank.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>What I really want to know (and I know there are some of you out there that are right there with me) is what is the best DPS AA selection for a Berserker that wants to help out their guild. PLEASE PLEASE I ask for only DPS AA ideas, hence the subject matter of the post.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>I was personally thinking of going:</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Str  -  5/4/8/0/0  for the Crti%</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Wis - 4/4/8/0/0  for the DPS</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Int   -  4/4/8/0/0  for the Attack Rate</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>I am under the impression that maxing out my DPS, Attack Rate, and Crit% will improve my overall DPS output in a raid.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Some issues that I have heard mention on (while sifting through the million posts on Tanking AA paths) are as follows: Crits are underpowered, haste cap can be a large issue, Agi AoE can possibly break mez, and wearing a buckler (and hence a 1h weapon) is lame. I don’t personally have any input on these issues so please don’t think that these issues are my opinion; they are just what I have gleaned from the various posts already on the board.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>I have particular interest in the possibility of dropping the Int line for sta lines double attacks with a 1her, but I’m under the impression that that will be less overall DPS than a big 2her with the full 8 points into attack rate.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>Any input (specifically number driven and not preference based) will be GREATLY appreciated, and any legitimate criticisms will be take very kindly. </SPAN></P>

[Dimgl]

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[Goreth]

Looks like great minds think alike, that is the exact same setup i'm going with.  In raids, using a phat 2h with a high dmg rating I'm critting for 3500-4K+ (with dispatch), and with the haste I'm hitting more often.  I have found that I can just leave auto-attack on and parse pretty well, and if you get a 2h with a longer delay and time your CA's b/w auto-attack hits you can get some sick DPS numbers. I went STR, AGI, WIS line for a few raid night and just didn't notice any major DPS increase...plus (as expected) I tended to pull much more aggro b/c of AE procs (especially the 3500 crit kind...mobs don't like that).  So yeah, this setup seems great.  If you are a hardcore sheild/tanking zerker then this setup is not for you, but if you love your DPS then this setup is top notch, no problem. Gorethok <Last name nerfed> 70 Berseker of Crushbone Leader of Elysium <div></div>

[Superfranki]

<DIV>well... mystery solved then.... please go 2 posts up for what appears to be a fairly difinitive answer =P</DIV>

[FightGame]

<P>I see my attack speed maxxed out (100%) many times with our berserker proc + other people's buffs.  It's harder to get the DPS.</P> <P>So instead of doing Intelligence, do 4-4-8 in the agility for the 24%(?) chance to AoE, imo.</P>

[Ep]

^~~~ isn't a true statement, just refers to the type of ppl you group withillusionist/troub/monks give haste buffswhilecoercers/dirges/bruisers give dps mods<div></div>

[FightGame]

<P>imo, a true statement</P> <P> </P> <P>regardless of whether it's maxxed out or not, I think you'd get more from 24% AoE.</P><p>Message Edited by FightGame on <span class=date_text>04-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:27 PM</span>

[minionofdeath]

<div></div>I'm not lvl 70, so have to ask, what are peoples base haste and dps mods with say Adept 3 spells at solo lvl 70?  If using haste gear, please state that as well.<p>Message Edited by minionofdeath on <span class=date_text>04-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:26 PM</span>

[Goreth]

The AE proc is good...but it sucks for raids b/c it will break mez and help you pull all kinds of unwanted aggro.  Even with an MT with great hate gain and several hate buffs on him I pull aggro all the time without trying, i can only imagine how much worse it would be with an unwanted AE going off...even if i toggle the spell off, its a waste of a spell.  Berserk is on alot but not all the time, IMO the haste is the best to keep especially with a long delay 2h. Gorethok Jigglebelly 70 Berserker of Crushbone Leader of Elysium <div></div>