Self haste buff Vs Group haste buff

[DRdeathscyt]

<DIV>Just wondering if anyone can help me out on this, i ve been playing my zerker alt for quite a while but mostly grinding it with a higher lv friend...so dont really know much about the class.</DIV> <DIV>I m now in T7 and got a master self haste buff at lv62(cant remeber the name, something rage), but i m not sure if i should scribe it becasue i ve notice recently that the T4 self haste buff and the T4 group haste buff which i m still using (yes, been very lazy on getting the next tier adpet from the broker), which to my knowlodge that they dont stack, and the problem is that my t4 self haste buff is at master one and haste 20% but my group haste buff only at adpet1 which only haste 18.%...and i realise that sometimes the group haste buff proc and sometimes the self haste buff proc, this only observe by inspecting the personal stat while in combat.</DIV> <DIV>So the question is, shouldnt the higher % haste override the lower % haste buff? if so...is that happening in T7 since i only got the self haste buff and i doubt i would have the chance to get the T7 master one group haste buff and therefore if the group haste buff proc at a lower % haste then my self buff...i dont see the point of scribing it and might as well make some plat out of it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[KagnarL]

Those are the zerk buffs... The self zerk buff has a higher chance for you go to zerk and a higher amount of haste and dps increase... What I do when grouped is cast both and then go into my spell effects (not maintained spells) and cancel the group one on me.  That way my group can still zerk and I can zerk for the higher amounts... <div></div>

[PlasticL]

I'm pretty shure you do not need to cancel the group buff... I've always left both on and the speed I gain maches the self buff every time I've checked.

[PlasticL]

<DIV>EDIT: double posted</DIV><p>Message Edited by PlasticLSD on <span class=date_text>04-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:35 PM</span>

[Shurinow]

<P>The tier 7 group haste, at Master 1, gives 28% haste/dps mod.   the <EM>Master II</EM> self buff also gives 28% haste/dps mod.  So, assuming you instead chose to make your taunt a Master II, scribing the group buff would actually be the best </P> <P>choice because the self buff won't be as high a % at Master 1.</P>

[KagnarL]

But also look at the chances to zerk....self buff is higher than the group buff... aka i think when hit the chance to zerk on self is 10% where the chance on the group one is 5%...  pulling from memory so I might be off on the chances... <div></div>

[JSMINTAM]

I've noticed odd behavior regarding the group & self buffs before. Sometimes when I have both up and I proc zerk, the mouseover says I'm pushing 15.4 haste & dps, this with M2 self and M1 group, t7. I cancel the group buff, and the next time I zerk, I'm back at 28/28. Something wierd going on there for sure, b/c I have no idea where the 15.4 would come from.<div></div>