AA WIS weapon requirement - is a morning star a hammer/mace?

[Shah]

<div>Well I guess the title covers it.  Is a morning star counted as a mace for the sake of the WIS AA line.  I am keen to use this line, but don't like the idea of giving up a weapon with STR and STA for extra WIS (hammer), so looking around I noted that the morning star has stats that suit a fighter while looking like it might fit into the hammer/mace grouping.</div><div> </div><div>BTW I'm avoiding taking a mace simply because of the DW requirement.</div><div> </div><div>Shahut</div><div>53 Zerker</div><div><strike>Lavastorm</strike> Nektulos</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[SlapnutsGT]

Like a flail?  You can just hit up a weapon vendor in your hometown and buy like a iron flail or something for roughly a few silver and see if it works.  My guess is no, there are a few weapons that don't fall into any category with those AA abilities.<div></div>

[FightGame]

<div>DW requirement?  None of our lines require you to duel wield, but to have certain types of weapons in atleast your primary hand, or both hands.  I'm pretty sure that any mace will work.  I'm doing the wisdom line too, and I actually haven't found a crushing weapon that doesn't work.</div>

[-Aonein-]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Shahut wrote:<div>Well I guess the title covers it.  Is a morning star counted as a mace for the sake of the WIS AA line.  I am keen to use this line, but don't like the idea of giving up a weapon with STR and STA for extra WIS (hammer), so looking around I noted that the morning star has stats that suit a fighter while looking like it might fit into the hammer/mace grouping.</div><div> </div><div>BTW I'm avoiding taking a mace simply because of the DW requirement.</div><div> </div><div>Shahut</div><div>53 Zerker</div><div><strike>Lavastorm</strike> Nektulos</div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote><p>Yes it classed as a Mace.</p>

[Shah]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>FightGame wrote:<div><font color="#0033ff">DW requirement?</font>  None of our lines require you to duel wield, but to have certain types of weapons in atleast your primary hand, or both hands.  I'm pretty sure that any mace will work.  I'm doing the wisdom line too, and I actually haven't found a crushing weapon that doesn't work.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Sorry, I guess I need to clarify that part.  All of the T6 maces I have found are dual wield, but as I am also working on the buckler requiring STA line I don't want to waste DPS by only using a DW weapon when I could be using a one hander.</p><p>On another note, I saw in another post that someone was using an imbued ironwood club as their crushing weapon for the belly smash weapon requirement - if this is true then, as has been stated here by others, it seems that virtually any crushing weapon can be used. </p><p>I admit it - I hadn't thought of just buying the vendor items to test it, thanks for the idea.</p><p>Shahut</p>

[-Aonein-]

<div></div><p>It really doesnt matter because you look at it like this:</p><p>Crushing Weapon:</p><ul><li>Great Hammer, 2 handed crushing.</li><li>Hammer, 1 handed crushing.</li><li>Mace, 1 hander OR Dual Weild crushing.</li></ul><p>Slashing Weapon:</p><ul><li>Great Sword, 2 handed slashing.</li><li>Sword, 1 hander OR Dual Weild slashing.</li><li>Great Axe. 2 handed slashing.</li><li>Axe, 1 handed OR Dual Weild slashing.</li></ul><p>Piercing Weapon:</p><ul><li>Great Spear, 2 handed piercing.</li><li>Spear, 1 handed OR Dual Weild piercing.</li></ul><p>Now the rest comes down to common sense and working out what picture resembles the type of weapon. Now take for example, i use Cudgel of the Wildwood to trigger Belly Smash. To look at this weapon it clearly is a Hammer type weapon, it has a Stone lodged in the top of the shaft with a hilt, clearly is a Hammer, a Ebony Club is clearly a Club type weapon cause of the look of the weapon, in the Icon, looks like a dirty peice of tree branch just ripped off a Tree.</p><p>Personally from what i have noticed is it doesnt really matter what type or look the weapon is, as long as its Crushing type weapon Belly Smash will work, as long as its Slashing Sword type, Acceleration Strike will work, as long as its Slashing Axe type, Executioners Warth will work.</p><p>One thing im not 100% sure of is, Staves and Staffs weather they be Two handed or 1 handed / Dual Weild ie: Batons, will they trigger Belly Smash? Its the only weapon type i havent tried with our 3 abilitys we get that require one of each weapon type to trigger.</p>

[KagnarL]

Staves do not trigger belly smash<div></div>

[x-for]

I use Rahotep Scepter - it works great when soloing!<div></div>

[Tasi3989]

<div></div><p>Sorry if i am repeating ,did not read everything, but did think I should add this since I am wisdom path as well.</p><p>The idea of buying 1sp wpns and testing is good, i found that it must be a mace and not crushing, so it is fickle in that regards.  Since Rahotep, Godking (i think) and the new Pris 3 claymore are all maces, that pretty much makes it so you dont have to waste money getting the crafted ones.</p><p>The dual wield should work if mace is in primary hand, but you cannot do belly smash unless target is knocked down, so with no shield, you ability to debuff the mob will greatly decrease.</p><p>I did find that belly smash is kind of buggy in a way.  It seems that once a mob in an encounter is knocked down/stunned that the ability belly smash is in some way unlocked, and after that it is useable till the end of the encounter.  Let me explain: you pull a group of 5 mobs, and hit one with your shield, knock it down, and belly smash it.  Even if he dies, belly smash will still be able to be triggered on other mobs until that encounter is ended, even if never knocked down or stunned.</p><p>At least that is what seems to be happening with me since I have had the ability.</p>

[Shah]

<div></div><strike></strike><blockquote><hr>Tasi3989 wrote:<div></div><p>The idea of buying 1sp wpns and testing is good, i found that it must be a mace and not crushing, so it is fickle in that regards.  <font color="#6666ff">Since Rahotep, Godking (i think) and the new Pris 3 claymore are all maces, that pretty much makes it so you dont have to waste money getting the crafted ones.</font></p><p></p><hr><p>LOL!!!!  Sorry I had to laugh, as a primarily solo player at Lvl 53 I can only dream of getting my hands on such weapons. </p><p>Anyway, I do appreciate your input and will look to try out a few weapons when I log on tonight (just got the first point into belly smash yesterday).</p><p>Shahut</p><p><strike>Lavastorm</strike> Nektulos</p><p> </p></blockquote>

[FightGame]

<div>To the previous poster talking about being able to use belly smash on different enemies that hasn't been knocked down.</div><div>If you used your aoe that knocks down all the enemies in the area, then that particular mob HAS been knocked down recently.</div><div>Also keep in mind that YOU don't have to knock them down, anyone in your group can.  Or I guess anyone period, grouped or not.</div><div>If you find this is still not the case...shh</div>

[Tasi3989]

<div></div><p>yea, i have thought about that, and perhaps you are right, it just seems buggy at times. </p><p>You know, like guarded vehemence, if you leave the group under the correct circumstances, it reverts back to you, maintaining the agil buff as well as the extra avoidance for soloing, so shhhhh, hehehe. </p>

[Shah]

<div></div><p>Reminds me of the Simpons episode ........ "Shhhhhhhhuddup Lenny!!"</p><p>LOL :smileywink:</p><p>Shahut</p><p><strike>Lavastorm</strike> Nektulos</p>

[Shah]

<P>Looks like a solution is on the way for everyone ....</P> <P><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00></FONT></STRONG></P> <HR> *** User Interface ***<BR><BR>- Failure to disarm a treasure chest (without triggering the trap) will now give an indication of the fact.<BR>- Lotto looting mode will now require responding to no-trade confirmation dialogs similar to the other looting modes.<BR>- <FONT color=#6666ff>Tooltips and examine information for melee weapons, ranged weapons, and shields will now list the equipment type (sword, staff, buckler, etc.).<BR></FONT>- The mender will no longer show status points as a cost to repair items, as it does not cost status to repair equipment.<BR> <P><BR><I>Note: All of these additions should have made it to Test late last night. Several bug fixes, however, went to Test today and the notes were not posted.</I><BR></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>From the Test Server LU notes last night.  Problem solved.</P> <P>I love it when a plan comes together :smileyhappy:</P>