Lvl 64 Master II choices?

[powerfrog]

Does anyone have any information on the lvl 64 master II choices?  Thanks in advance!<div></div>

[infernus006]

I'm hoping that one of them is Courageous Will.<div></div>

[kono]

<div></div><p><img src="http://hodstock.com/eq2temp/64.jpg"></p><p>najena.konk</p>

[FightGame]

<div>That pic shows us what one of the 4 choices do...any way we could see what the other 3 have to offer?  Since I pretty much spam my taunts, I usually don't have a problem losing aggro (plus I have rescue ad3), so I won't be picking the one described in the pic.</div>

[infernus006]

<div></div>Berate is upgrade to Fearsome Shout, obviously.  Bloodbath is upgrade to Slaughter (pbaoe damage attack, stun, knockback).  Combative Rage I'm guessing is upgrade to Destructive Rage (group HP regen buff).  Engulfing Rage...that one has me stumped.  Possible upgrade to Infuriate (personal berserk buff) is my guess.In any case if these are in fact our choices then I will be going with Berate.  I just can't pass up the opportunity of having one of my taunts get resisted less often.<div></div><p>Message Edited by infernus006 on <span class="date_text">02-27-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:56 PM</span></p>

[-Aonein-]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>FightGame wrote:<div>That pic shows us what one of the 4 choices do...any way we could see what the other 3 have to offer?  Since I pretty much spam my taunts, I usually don't have a problem losing aggro (plus I have rescue ad3), so I won't be picking the one described in the pic.</div><hr></blockquote>Are you out of your mind? 891 - 1089 group AOE taunt........that is sex my friend, and will be your best friend, unless of course you can get Master I of it, but seeing we are tanks i always chose the taunts over anything else seeing Master I in the other abilitys will be more then suffice.<p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class="date_text">02-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:56 AM</span></p>

[-Aonein-]

<blockquote><hr>infernus006 wrote:Berate is upgrade to Outrage, obviously.  Bloodbath is upgrade to Slaughter (pbaoe damage attack, stun, knockback).  Combative Rage I'm guessing is upgrade to Destructive Rage (group HP regen buff).  Engulfing Rage...that one has me stumped.  Possible upgrade to Infuriate (personal berserk buff) is my guess.In any case if these are in fact our choices then I will be going with Berate.  I just can't pass up the opportunity of having one of my taunts get resisted less often.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Berate is upgrade to Fearsome Shout seeing that Outrage is a lvl 59 CA, it wont be getting upgraded until Tier 8, same with Courageous WIll at 58.

[infernus006]

<div></div><div></div>You're right, I edited my post to correct myself right after I read yours, lol.However, just because a spell is from a previous teir doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to be offered as a Master 2 choice in the next teir.  Look at Fearsome shout, it was T5 and the Master2 was offered in T6.  So Courageous Will could have been a choice if they had wanted it to be.<div></div><p>Message Edited by infernus006 on <span class="date_text">02-27-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:00 PM</span></p>

[kono]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>FightGame wrote:<div>That pic shows us what one of the 4 choices do...any way we could see what the other 3 have to offer?  Since I pretty much spam my taunts, I usually don't have a problem losing aggro (plus I have rescue ad3), so I won't be picking the one described in the pic.</div><hr></blockquote><p>I didn't even <em>inspect</em> the other three choices.  The phrase "48% Harder" is all I needed to see.</p><p>The other three are indeed upgrades to Destructive Rage, Infuriate, and Slaughter.</p><p>najena.konk</p>

[infernus006]

I looted the master1 of Berate from the first named in the Nest and it says 48% harder to resist just like the master2 and only has like a tad less hate so I went ahead and got the master2 of our new group regen Combative Rage.  I think it was worth it.  I had the Ad3 of Destructive Rage (T5 spell that didn't get upgraded in T6) that gave 55 points of regen and the master2 of Combative Rage gives 85, which seems like a huge enough improvement to make it worth it since I got the master1 of Berate.  =DAlthough I was very temped to get that master2 of Bloodbath.  But for someone who tanks a lot of instances I felt that the extra regen was a bit more important for me.<div></div>

[Obadiah]

<div>So. . . . assuming one has a veteran reward Reforming Stone. . . . you think it would be worth using to respec?</div><div> </div><div>I took "Fearsome Shout" at level 54, and have no regrets. And it would make sense to take the upgrade to that (Berate) at level 64, which I am approaching.</div><div> </div><div>Anyone have the stats on the Master 2 Infuriate though vs. the Adept 1 or 3 Engulphing Rage? Those % increase-type spells have a tendency to be more valuable if you can Master 2 a previous tier. And the Adept 1 of Engulphing Rage is NOT an upgrade over the Adept 3 Infuriate. But I'd rather see the difference before using the respec stone, just to be sure it's worth it. So if anyone could share that'd be swell. :smileyhappy: Has anyone else done this already?</div><div> </div><div> </div>

[FightGame]

<div></div><div>You shouldn't use that reforming stone until you should probably save it.</div><p>Message Edited by FightGame on <span class="date_text">03-29-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:45 PM</span></p>

[Pegesus]

I took the Berate seemed like a no brainer. I now am still glad i took it.  A little more threat is a little more threat.  I have now found more than half of our new masters and will ad3 the others i dont have which are combative rage and destruction.  If you are tanking alot i'd take Berate and if you are never tanking i'd go combative rage.<div></div>

[infernus006]

<div></div><i>"If you are tanking alot i'd take Berate and if you are never tanking i'd go combative rage."</i>Wouldn't Engulfing Rage or maybe Bloodbath make more sense to master2 than Combative Rage from a DPS standpoint?  Engulfing Rage is the upgrade to our self berserk buff, Combative Rage is our new group health regen.<div></div><p>Message Edited by infernus006 on <span class="date_text">03-30-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:34 PM</span></p>

[Pegesus]

From a dps standpoint most likely yes.  But if you are just a casual grouper then the health regen might benefit you more than a just little added dps.<div></div>