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stank
11-22-2005, 01:39 AM
<DIV>I am mostly a soloer/duoer and I having read that everyone is loving DW now, I would like to find out what 2 weapons I should get made so I can try this out. I am level 60 zerker. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, if there is something I could camp that would get me a good DW Weapon, I would love to know that too.</DIV>
Pinche Va
11-22-2005, 01:47 AM
<P>My weaponsmith told me that all of his cobalt weapons have the exact same stats now, as well as the ironwood stuff. Its a matter of style with T6 and your personal preference. So I took what I liked from what was most visually pleasing to me. Not logged in right now, but Im pretty sure the DR on T6 dualies is 37.4 across the board.</P> <P> </P> <P>If you do Poets often enough a Silverthorn will drop. Its pretty nice. 43.6 DR off the top of my head...I may be off by a bit.</P> <P> </P> <P>Silent City epics drop some decent 40+DR legendary DW's.</P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I parsed out the dual cobalts slightly higher than my Argent [Removed for Content] Sword over a few days time so I rarely switch now. Its DW all the way for me. They proc like nuts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even the vendor trash in Scornfeathers are like 34 DR on the Pale Bone Skewer or Ish Urz Render or whatever they were. No procs though!</DIV>
Lechac
11-22-2005, 11:09 PM
Cazel drops a 14 str 14 agi, 47 dr , 1.2 sec delay, whip. Usually goes to the scout in the group, but kill Cazel everyday and you'll get it. <div></div>
KagnarL
11-22-2005, 11:13 PM
I tried out DW today and am happy I can return to the way I always wanted to play my zerker.....I just couldn't believe how much better I fight dual wielded in comparison to 1h/shield. I plan on keeping the 1h/shield setup for if i tank raids, but for main stuff I can kill just about anything with DW...now to find some nice ones. <div></div>
Gavpim
11-23-2005, 01:18 AM
<P>Well I guess its each to their own playstyle... But for me two hander and open wounds > duel wield and open wounds. </P> <P> </P> <P>And since i use open wounds on almost every fight I wont be using duel wields anytime soon.</P> <P> </P> <P>But like i say, each to their own.</P>
Switch9
11-23-2005, 08:12 PM
<DIV>A quick word on DW here. There are great weapons you can get from doing the instanced zones. But whatever you choose to do, make sure that your PRIMARY weapon slot has the higher damage on <<<<<<<<<<<NOT DAMAGE RATING>>>>>>>>> if you have for example 2 cobalts bolth are pretty much the same but one will do more damage but swing less often. One will swing faster and do less damage per hit. You want the one that will do the most damage per hit becuase this is what your CA will use to attack. In the case that the one with a higher DR has more damage per hit on use that one. I hope you understand that... its quite key to using DW succesfully. (BTW i can not spell or type well so sory about it)</DIV> <DIV>-Ardant 60-armorer 57 Zerker</DIV> <DIV>-Ondria 40 Provis 20 mystic</DIV>
-Aonein-
11-23-2005, 08:54 PM
<P>If i read what your trying to say correctly, your trying to say that the higher damage on your primary weapon determines your damage output of your CA's. </P> <P>It doesnt, CA's damage output is totally dependant on STR / Quaility only, what weapon you use doesnt determine anything with CA's.</P>
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>-Aonein- wrote:<p>If i read what your trying to say correctly, your trying to say that the higher damage on your primary weapon determines your damage output of your CA's. </p> <p>It doesnt, CA's damage output is totally dependant on STR / Quaility only, what weapon you use doesnt determine anything with CA's.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>What you've said is correct, with the exception of Open Wounds. Open Wounds causes your *auto-attack* damage to hit more than one opponent. So the damage done is based on your auto-attack/weapon damage.</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Tuddar on <span class=date_text>11-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:41 AM</span>
c00nd
11-23-2005, 10:08 PM
<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=40&message.id=8647" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=40&message.id=8647</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is what SmEaGolluM86 says incorrect? Or are sneak attack/backstab the only CAs affected by having a higher dmg weapon in primary?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I play both (50 assassin and 41 Berzerker). I am very interested in this topic.</DIV><p>Message Edited by c00nd0g on <span class=date_text>11-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:14 AM</span>
Lechac
11-23-2005, 10:08 PM
Don't quote me on this, but I thik I read, around the time of LU13, that dw damage was changed and that 75% of the auto-attack dmg from it was from the main hand. Anyone can confirm or deny this ? <div></div>
Gavpim
11-25-2005, 12:54 AM
<P>Aonein said:</P> <P> </P> <P>If i read what your trying to say correctly, your trying to say that the higher damage on your primary weapon determines your damage output of your CA's.</P> <P>It doesnt, CA's damage output is totally dependant on STR / Quaility only, what weapon you use doesnt determine anything with CA's.</P> <P> </P> <P>end quote</P> <P> </P> <P>No that not what im saying at all. What im saying is that Open wounds Only takes into account the weapon in your PRIMARY weapon slot. To quot ethe spell: </P> <P>increases attack speed of caster 45%</P> <P>Caster has 100% chance of having their <STRONG>PRIMARY WEAPON </STRONG>auto attack affect multiple targets they are facing who are within melee range.</P> <P> </P> <P>So if your using Duel wields Open Wounds will only take the damage from the Duel wield weapon which is in your primary weapon slot and hit multiple targets with it. However, if you are using a two handed weapon Open wounds will take the damage from the whole weapon and hit multiple targets with it, making a two handed weapon the most efficient Weapon to use with this spell.</P>
-Aonein-
11-25-2005, 02:10 AM
<P>My reply was aimed at Stich911 Gavpimmy not you, thats why its under his, i just didnt quote it.</P> <P>What you say about Open Wounds is true, but i dont think it really matters if your using DW or a 2 hander to proc the ability for the simply fact, a DW you will proc more over the 36 seconds where with a 2 hander you will proc less but for more damage, so it more then likely pans out.</P>
Zhonata
11-25-2005, 02:29 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR> <P>My reply was aimed at Stich911 Gavpimmy not you, thats why its under his, i just didnt quote it.</P> <P>What you say about Open Wounds is true, but i dont think it really matters if your using DW or a 2 hander to proc the ability for the simply fact, a DW you will proc more over the 36 seconds where with a 2 hander you will proc less but for more damage, so it more then likely pans out.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not likly first of all it takes 2 dual wield weapons 2 equal a 2handed weapon damage. Technically these are supose to equal out with the 2hnd doing front loaded damage and the the duel wields catching up over time. 2nd of all the haste bonus is going to effect the weapon with the higher delay more drastically. (45% OW, 21%Beserk,10%FBSS) They are added individually it has been awhile since i did that math and they no longer have away to check. </P> <P>1.2 = .47 delay, 2.3 = .88</P> <P> Anyways these are the delays that each weapon would have after all that. It is very clear by this that using duel wield with open wounds is a waist. You wont equal the damage of a 2hnd ever and you will benifit alot mroe from havinga a high delay weapon with the speed buffs.</P> <P> </P>
elrob
11-27-2005, 03:40 AM
<P>Now Im not a mathematician nor am I level 60 yet, but I do Duel Weild <STRONG>ALOT</STRONG> and I have a <U>pair of coblat leafblades</U>, <U>pair of cobalt assult axes</U> and <U>pair of ironwood crudgles</U> (wanted a set of each type) and from what I have knowtice that no matter what combo I have equiped, either pairs or mitched - matched (any combo) my damage and amount of procs seems the same. My attack in the persona window is <STRONG><U>exactly the same</U></STRONG>.</P> <P>All I can reccommend is find a type you think looks fitting for your character.</P> <P>Burlap</P> <P>level 57 Barbarian Berserker</P> <P>Permafrost server</P>
RafaelSmith
11-27-2005, 10:10 PM
Must be different for Zerkers cause even after the recent changes to DW......I still do more DPS/kill mobs faster with Cobalt 2hander than with 2 cobalt DWers...well if you can call what I do DPS =P <div></div>
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