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FlameingInfer
09-28-2005, 06:16 PM
<DIV>all I can say is WoW! very nice,  not sure if anyone posted this on 2h vs Duel wield but Im gonna have some of these made!</DIV> <DIV>cant figure out how to post a pic so here's the stats, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>pristine Cobalt cresent axe </DIV> <DIV>+17Agi  +11 STR + 38 health + 46 power </DIV> <DIV>1.5 sec del.     </DIV> <DIV>31.0 damage rateing.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>wow 62.0 damage rating when u have both of them,  very nice!  may not use them all the time, but I'll have them avalable to me for sure!!! </DIV> <DIV>I havent seen any of the other Cobalts yet, so if anyone knows the stats or has a pic plz post it! thx!</DIV><p>Message Edited by FlameingInferno on <span class=date_text>09-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:56 AM</span>

MillsFairchild
09-28-2005, 06:34 PM
<u><b>Cobalt Weapon Damage Ratings</b></u> 62.1 on a 2-hander 49.7 on a 1-hander 31.0 on a duel wield <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=a8&message.id=3933" target=_blank>Link to a thread on them.</a> <div></div>

Dashel
09-28-2005, 08:11 PM
Very nice.  When do the imbues go in?  <div></div>

Sinkat
09-28-2005, 09:37 PM
<FONT color=#ff3300>What do you mean? There are no imbues for them yet?</FONT>

Stromul
09-28-2005, 09:40 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Sinkatze wrote:<font color="#ff3300">What do you mean? There are no imbues for them yet?</font> <div></div><hr></blockquote>The cobalt weapons can't be imbued yet.  There's no receipes in the game for them.</span><div></div>

Huna
09-28-2005, 11:14 PM
Add to that No T6 imbues (armor or weapons) and no T6 Hex dolls.  I wish they would hurry up and put them in, I want to get an imbued cobalt BP  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

Ep
09-29-2005, 08:20 AM
<div></div>i'm not posting this cuz i'm a woodworker and i like to advertise woodworking, but rather, dont' forget you can get 1hb and duel wield blunts made from wood, which is generally cheaper than cobalt and imo the cobalt would be better spent on armor not weapons, unless of course your really against using wood or you really want to wield steel, or a sword, then be my guest. don't forget 2hb and 2hpierce also for your raiding needs on wood,will probably save you money later on. oh yea and generally, fighting batons quarterstaffs, cudgels are about the same dps /ratio whatever as cobalt, all different stats and stuff. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Epyx on <span class=date_text>09-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:21 AM</span>

-Aonein-
09-29-2005, 08:33 AM
<P>Dont worry Epyx, ill be making sure to buy a set of Batons or Cudgels plus a set of cobalt dual weilds. There is mobs out there that are resistant to Slashing as there is to Crushing and Peicing :smileywink:. But ill be going Cudgels and Leafblades.</P> <P>I like to make sure i have a arsenal at the ready.</P> <p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>09-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:33 PM</span>

Stromul
09-29-2005, 04:02 PM
Moorguard said that they are coming to test a LU14b.  So hopefully we'll see it live soon. <div></div>

Sambora
09-29-2005, 10:56 PM
<DIV>So if I have a Vandium cluster and have a new bracelet made from it, would I be able to get it imbued when the next update comes out?</DIV>

MillsFairchild
09-29-2005, 11:18 PM
Not if you attune it. <div></div>

Sambora
09-29-2005, 11:28 PM
Well then, to quote the once great Adam Sandler....F me in the goat [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]!!

Sokolov
09-30-2005, 12:41 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>-Aonein- wrote:<div></div> <p>Dont worry Epyx, ill be making sure to buy a set of Batons or Cudgels plus a set of cobalt dual weilds. There is mobs out there that are resistant to Slashing as there is to Crushing and Peicing :smileywink:. But ill be going Cudgels and Leafblades.</p> <p>I like to make sure i have a arsenal at the ready.</p> <div></div><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class="date_text">09-29-2005</span> <span class="time_text">03:33 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>*nods* always a good idea =D I like to have 1H Slashing, 2H Crushing and DW Piercers.</span><div></div>

Sinkat
10-01-2005, 10:12 AM
<P><FONT color=#ff3300>I think the expantions was a bit to focused on the Adventure side than the crafting side since there are so many crafting items that are missing, and also the Plate Armor has the same looks as the T5 ones! I was hoping to see some cool T6 armor.. but no, it just looks the same.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff3300>Good Luck!</FONT></P>

GurgTheBash
10-01-2005, 08:43 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sokolov wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR> <P>Dont worry Epyx, ill be making sure to buy a set of Batons or Cudgels plus a set of cobalt dual weilds. There is mobs out there that are resistant to Slashing as there is to Crushing and Peicing :smileywink:. But ill be going Cudgels and Leafblades.</P> <P>I like to make sure i have a arsenal at the ready.</P> <P>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <SPAN class=date_text>09-29-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:33 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>*nods* always a good idea =D<BR><BR>I like to have 1H Slashing, 2H Crushing and DW Piercers.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P> <P> </P> <P>Not bad thinking...but I'd go with 2H slashing, DW crushing, and 1H piercing, just because DPS is basically equal, regardless of type of melee damage involved, but weapon graphics for the big axes are so much prettier than those for big hammers....At least I haven't yet seen a big hammer that didn't basically look like a sledgehammer.</P> <P> </P> <P>But then again, maybe the DPS availability has more hammers with nasty stats, since all I look at on broker is what I can use now, or will be able to use in next two levels, and I find the highest damage rating axes and highest damage rating hammers have same damage rating, when I go looking.</P> <p>Message Edited by GurgTheBashur on <span class=date_text>10-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:46 AM</span>

-Aonein-
10-02-2005, 01:07 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GurgTheBashur wrote:<BR> <P><BR> </P> <P>Not bad thinking...but I'd go with 2H slashing, DW crushing, and 1H piercing, just because DPS is basically equal, regardless of type of melee damage involved, but weapon graphics for the big axes are so much prettier than those for big hammers....At least I haven't yet seen a big hammer that didn't basically look like a sledgehammer.</P> <P> </P> <P>But then again, maybe the DPS availability has more hammers with nasty stats, since all I look at on broker is what I can use now, or will be able to use in next two levels, and I find the highest damage rating axes and highest damage rating hammers have same damage rating, when I go looking.</P> <P>Message Edited by GurgTheBashur on <SPAN class=date_text>10-01-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:46 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yeah about the only thing that changes is weapon delay and stats. Stats dont change to dramatically just a few more stats in what you want to chose to get the most out of.</P> <P>Mostly what i have noticed is Great Hammers are faster delays, then its Great Swords then Executioner Axes with slowest. You get some really slow weps like Flails and Polearms, but the damage rating is all the same through out the tier per quaility.<BR></P>

GurgTheBash
10-02-2005, 07:42 PM
<P>Yup, and in the other thread, I thought it had been pretty well established that if you make fairly high use of CAs a slower weapon with higher damager per swing was better?</P> <P> </P> <P>So if the Great Axes are the longest delays between swings (excepting great flails and some poles), then that would be another point for them, would it not?</P>

-Aonein-
10-02-2005, 10:12 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GurgTheBashur wrote:<BR> <P>Yup, and in the other thread, I thought it had been pretty well established that if you make fairly high use of CAs a slower weapon with higher damager per swing was better?</P> <P> </P> <P>So if the Great Axes are the longest delays between swings (excepting great flails and some poles), then that would be another point for them, would it not?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yeah but Leafblades which are dual weild have a delay of 2.1 seconds a peice where Executioners axe is 2.7 alone,  so having 2 chances to proc at a ratio based on two 2.1 weapon delays is better then one weapon at 2.7. Id probally go one further and say thats its even better then a attack delay of 3.8 seconds.</P> <P>Im waiting till i can get my Imbued Cobalt leafblades made up to test this theroy, not really willing to waste 2 ebon to test it when in less then a week i can imbue the cobalt ones.</P>

ForgottenFoundling
10-04-2005, 12:40 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GurgTheBashur wrote:<BR> <P>Yup, and in the other thread, I thought it had been pretty well established that if you make fairly high use of CAs a slower weapon with higher damager per swing was better?</P> <P> </P> <P>So if the Great Axes are the longest delays between swings (excepting great flails and some poles), then that would be another point for them, would it not?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yeah but Leafblades which are dual weild have a delay of 2.1 seconds a peice where Executioners axe is 2.7 alone,  <STRONG>so having 2 chances to proc at a ratio based on two 2.1 weapon delays is better then one weapon at 2.7</STRONG>. Id probally go one further and say thats its even better then a attack delay of 3.8 seconds.</P> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This isn't how it works, unfortunately.  They have the procs scale based on delay of the weapon and slot.  Dual wield weapons do not proc any faster than 2h weapons.  5% isn't always 5% to SOE, (think about how often your imbued bow procs).  The best bang for your buck is 2h weapons if you can wield them.  The only thing that you'd be gaining out of DW weapons is tailored stats to your desire.  Also, autoattack damage is laughable at best atm.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a troubador, I'll be going with imbued 1h weapons and shields (for soloing/small groups) and only have a DW slasher to go with my Prismatic for non-slash immune mobs when raiding.</DIV>

Sokolov
10-04-2005, 01:07 AM
Uh oh =D  Here we go again *chuckles* <div></div>

-Aonein-
10-04-2005, 01:14 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sokolov wrote:<BR>Uh oh =D  Here we go again *chuckles*<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>:smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>Im not even going to bother with that Sokolov i think we spent the last month spending time at class here in the Berserker forums to make a math pyshcian cry.</P>

-Aonein-
10-04-2005, 01:20 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ForgottenFoundling wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Aonein- wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GurgTheBashur wrote:<BR> <P>Yup, and in the other thread, I thought it had been pretty well established that if you make fairly high use of CAs a slower weapon with higher damager per swing was better?</P> <P> </P> <P>So if the Great Axes are the longest delays between swings (excepting great flails and some poles), then that would be another point for them, would it not?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Yeah but Leafblades which are dual weild have a delay of 2.1 seconds a peice where Executioners axe is 2.7 alone,  <STRONG>so having 2 chances to proc at a ratio based on two 2.1 weapon delays is better then one weapon at 2.7</STRONG>. Id probally go one further and say thats its even better then a attack delay of 3.8 seconds.</P> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This isn't how it works, unfortunately.  They have the procs scale based on delay of the weapon and slot.  Dual wield weapons do not proc any faster than 2h weapons.  5% isn't always 5% to SOE, (think about how often your imbued bow procs).  The best bang for your buck is 2h weapons if you can wield them.  The only thing that you'd be gaining out of DW weapons is tailored stats to your desire.  Also, autoattack damage is laughable at best atm.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a troubador, I'll be going with imbued 1h weapons and shields (for soloing/small groups) and only have a DW slasher to go with my Prismatic for non-slash immune mobs when raiding.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>What i will do however is point you in the right direction.</P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=15421&view=by_date_ascending&page=1" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=15421&view=by_date_ascending&page=1</A></P>