Power efficiency after the changes

[Wiseman160]

<DIV>Does anyone know how efficient we are power-wise after the changes?</DIV> <DIV>Currently I end a fight with a same level enemy with about half my power remaining, and about 80% of my health.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our defese will be going up, but our damage will be going down - I wouldn't mind so much if I knew that we were saving power overall, and could stay fighting for lengthier periods.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[kono]

<P>In my testing, I have run out of power a lot.  Granted, I've rarely done any six-man grouping.  This is based mostly on solo/duo testing.  Even if I hit my Manastone religiously, wear GEBs, and my fabled mitts with a clarity proc, it's a lot easier to run out of power than it ever was on Live.</P> <P>It is probably a combination of the instant cast times, the damage reduction on most of our arts, and increased hit points on mobs.  I am actually going to wind up running some numbers and simply never cast the least efficient of the arts.  That way I'll still have power to hit the more efficient arts the fifth or tenth time they pop up over the course of a fight.</P> <P>najena.konk</P>

[Wiseman160]

<P>Wow that's bad news.  It sounds pretty rough.  I honestly wasn't expecting that to happen.</P> <P>Do you think that this is a way of making enchanters/bards more desirable in a group?</P> <P>Are all of the other classes taking efficiency hits?</P> <P> </P> <P>I can't speak for many of them, but in the necromancer forum they report an increase in power efficiency.</P> <P> </P>

[Nosnem]

I know this is off topic but I thoguht that the new changes were going to be alot more dependant on mitigation yet u are wearing GEBs? Is this due to the fact that find ur power lower than your health at the end of a fight?

[kono]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nosnemi1 wrote:<BR>I know this is off topic but I thoguht that the new changes were going to be alot more dependant on mitigation yet u are wearing GEBs? Is this due to the fact that find ur power lower than your health at the end of a fight? <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I don't always wear GEBs.  My other boots are fabled plate with a healing proc similar to imbued chests.  It depends on the mob and if I'm grouped, etc.</P> <P>But yes, health is rarely a concern, thanks to HP regen.  I frequently play without using either stance, and use both regen buffs and both berserk proc buffs instead.  Either I have enough mitigation/avoidance to win, and the HP regen will keep me alive for as long as necessary, or I'm overmatched and my armor isn't really a factor.  I never end a fight with more power than HP.</P> <DIV>I haven't played with the latest changes to HP however, so I'll see how it goes now that the mobs should die a little quicker.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>najena.konk</DIV>

[Kuragi]

<span><blockquote><hr>Wiseman160 wrote:<p>Wow that's bad news.  It sounds pretty rough.  I honestly wasn't expecting that to happen.</p> <p>Do you think that this is a way of making enchanters/bards more desirable in a group?</p> <p>Are all of the other classes taking efficiency hits?</p> <p>I can't speak for many of them, but in the necromancer forum they report an increase in power efficiency.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote> Reports are that mob HP has gone down, not up, by the way.   Since the effect of breeze has been reduced, and it's been turned into a concentration buff with unlimited duration, I'm not sure making enchanters/bards more desirable in a group is the goal either.  From reading through the boards about the changes in all the warrior classes it looks like the CA have been made less power efficient across the board.   It also looks like the net effect of reduced auto-attack damage AND reduced mob HP is that the auto-attack is that the mobs die a little bit faster to pure auto-attack than they do on Live.  So I wouldn't call that a nerf. So, my guess at this point is that they wanted to make auto-attack more important in the game, and thus haste more important, and melee weapon choice more important.  They wanted people to not be able to spam their damage spells in a typical fight.  I suspect, but don't know for fact, that even under Breeze this will not be possible, although you will be able to do more.    This makes Breeze have the effect of increasing group dps, which it usually doesn't on Live, it only reduces downtime now.  I"m an Illusionist 41, by the way.  </span><div></div>

[-Aonein-]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Kuragi wrote:</P> <P><SPAN><BR>Reports are that mob HP has gone down, not up, by the way.   Since the effect of breeze has been reduced, and it's been turned into a concentration buff with unlimited duration, I'm not sure making enchanters/bards more desirable in a group is the goal either. <BR><BR>From reading through the boards about the changes in all the warrior classes it looks like the CA have been made less power efficient across the board.   It also looks like the net effect of reduced auto-attack damage AND reduced mob HP is that the auto-attack is that the mobs die a little bit faster to pure auto-attack than they do on Live.  So I wouldn't call that a nerf.<BR><BR>So, my guess at this point is that they wanted to make auto-attack more important in the game, and thus haste more important, and melee weapon choice more important.  They wanted people to not be able to spam their damage spells in a typical fight.  I suspect, but don't know for fact, that even under Breeze this will not be possible, although you will be able to do more.    This makes Breeze have the effect of increasing group dps, which it usually doesn't on Live, it only reduces downtime now. <BR><BR>I"m an Illusionist 41, by the way. <BR></P></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Haste has also been nerfed across the board even for Illusionists where there top Haste spell at Adept III is 53%, its droping to 44% at Master II quaility which is Legerity (49), but at least that is also a group buff now instead of single target cast.</P> <P>Problem at the moment is that Auto Attack is seriously not working correctly, Scouts and Monks reporting in that only 30 - 40% of there auto attack damage is getting through the increased parry, dodge and block that they increased to compensate for the mob having less HP so basically they should of just left the mob with its HP as it is and not buffed up there parry, dodge and block.</P> <P>To confirm this theroy Monks have been parsing in at 100 dps, some struggle to even hit that depending on wepons etc. I read that Moorgard posted somewhere the there was a problem with Auto Attack damage output and they are looking into it, lets just hope its rectified before sept 14th.</P> <P>As for spamming CA's you will notice some not all but some of not only our CA's but all Fighters and Scouts CA's are basically instant cast timers now, <STRONG><U>but</U></STRONG> some have double the refresh timers so there wont be no spamming of many CA's that were used so much as they were before.</P> <P>Its basically a merry go round, and as we get off, we get off the opposite way we got on, but we are still in the same theme park......<BR></P>