What have i missed out on?

[-Aonein-]

<DIV>Hello yet again fellow Berzerkers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have recently taken on a very long vacation from the world of EQ2 or i should say from the world of SoE in a whole to try and free my mind of all the negative feed back the game was taking 8 months ago and have recently looked into the new Expasion which looks quite promising and decided to come back and see how and where the game is headed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Judging by the forums and what i have read so far, not much has changed since i left, combat arts that were bugged and not working correctly are still bugged now 8 months later yet they still drive to release new content. They have only just fixed ( finally ) some content that has been bugged since beta. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Styker i see your still around mate, good to see some of the orginal Berzerkers are still fighting on. Not sure how many orignal Day 1 release Berzerkers there are out there but glad too see you are still playing the ones that post still.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well this will most likely be my last chance that i will give SoE to take my money from me, i just hope, for SoE, they have made some positive chnages towards the Berzerker class and have some positive insite for ALL class's instead of the same old Nerf Bat that SoE seem to nurse so well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well nice to be back, lets see whats changed and how the game plays again now.</DIV><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>08-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:05 PM</span>

[Ethelwo]

Not much to say outside the fact that a comabt change is coming soon and zerkers will lose dps and have to wear tutu's

[Em]

<DIV>You chose a horrid time to come back, that is, unless you enjoy getting nailed in the nuts with the nerf bat.</DIV>

[Sambora]

You missed that SOE is changing us into some hippie, tree huggin' [Removed for Content]....That's what you've missed!  :smileymad:

[Styk]

Aoenin im still here, the combat changes are now on test, most zerkers are taken aback by them but from what info ive recived on them thru beta ( NDA on combat changes has been lifted so they arent a no no to talk about, just 51+ spells and content ) Berserkers are way more offensive overall now then we have been before, thou we are taking a hit in buffs etc ( no more hp buff, very very limited haste etc ) i think they might work out over all Sucky thing is there is a SERIOUS LACK of berserker class players on test ( ive only seen 2 period the past 4 days and only one is 40+ ) so im worried that they wont get tested enough.... <div></div>

[Gaige]

Welcome back Aonein.

[-Aonein-]

<P>Thank you Gage nice to be back man, nice to see your still around, and by the way, you post way to much man :smileywink:.</P> <P>Styker, do you know if we can just copy our chars to Test yet, cause if we can ill copy Taemek over and test the crap out of the high lvl stuff with you, if we cant, well ill just wait till they release the new spells and combat arts to test it myself.</P> <P>You mentioned that we are taking a hit in the buffs we use, no more HP buff and minimal haste, does that mean for just buffs like Tides of War ( Bloodlust line ) or are we taking a hit in Berserk plus the Tides of War. Also, is all our HP buffs getting completely removed or are they becoming self only, be a bit more specific please man.</P> <P>SoE need to get a clue on how to run and work there game, so much redesigning on a constant basis, and im guessing, but we wont get these new changes till the expasion meaning we arent going to get it for free, so all the fixs to broken content, combat arts, spells and abilitys come at a price, well done SoE, nice way to do buisness.</P> <P>Question now is, where is the Berserker class headed? What are we meant to be? What is going to be our postion ( NON DPS wise ) in the class chain? Reason i ask NON DPS wise is because at the moment, and it was quite clear 8 months ago when they spoke of the Scout revamp that we were going to take a hit to our DPS and i think i even mentioned somewhere back then that it was going to be our Auto Attack damage which i believe its going to be for all Fighter class's.</P> <P>If anyone has any links to previous Dev's threads or posts about where Berserkers is going to go and what we are intended to be and what our job description will envolve id be mighty grateful if you can post the links here as i cant seem to find much these days except a whole lot of flaming and bickering.</P> <P>Thanks</P>

[-Aonein-]

<DIV>Found this tonight, <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=13545#M13545" target=_blank><FONT color=#ff3300>Berserker Changes</FONT></A>. Thanks to svanny for the shots my friend.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>After looking at those screen shots, it really doesnt look to be all that bad. One thing is for sure, with these changes, you know there preparing for PvP, cause as we stand now, we could just about dominate any class in PvP hands down, if we got near them of course.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think ill wait and watch a bit more, one thing i will say i will miss is Tides of War, has to be my favorite buff by far. I like the change to Blood Rage, nice change that. Now this means i have to revamp my lvl 1 - 50 list at the top of the Berserker forum, [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] you SoE.</DIV>

[Khal]

<P>I have been waiting for my copy the last few days, hopefull will get there monday.  But def, from what I have seen there have not been many berserkers on at all.  Hopefully we will get more on to test this out to give some feedback before it is too late.  Overall I am looking forward to trying them as they look interesting.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Khalad on <span class=date_text>08-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:44 PM</span>

[Styk]

Aoenin , the way it looks now bro, we are gonna be true offense tank, ALMOST all of our of buffs that give a chance to proc an attack are AE, also i know that all our AE's now ( slaugther etc ) have a stun componant to it now IMO bro Berserkers are looking really good for both PvE and PvP <div></div>

[Dak-D]

<div></div>Although I do hope your right Styker I do not see what you see, from the information that has been posted all I see are nerfs. The offensive stance procs an aoe on all mobs in the area not just the target encounter so that will probably hardly ever be used. The HP regen is more of a soloers CA then a group or raid thing, our counter now only works 3 times. Anarchy is gone, rage is gone etc ...  And even if we are better tanks now, which I have never really had an issue with tanking, how many tanks are needed in a group or raid ? Compare that to how many DPSers, buffers, healers and utilities are needed in a group or raid  ?  What is the edge a berserker will have to get picked as MT or MA ? When those two slots are full where is the berserkers place gonna be ?  I will admit I am bitter about having changes jammed down my throat and I can hardly even bring myself to play at all, I knew changes where coming yes but not an entire change of the core mechanicsand CAs of my class. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Dak-Dod on <span class=date_text>08-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:26 PM</span>

[Svan]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dak-Dod wrote:<BR>   What is the edge a berserker will have to get picked as MT or MA ? When those two slots are full where is the berserkers place gonna be ? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>they have capped avoidance and mitigation to 80%. assuming everyone is able to reach that end game is gonna make everyone equal. so what they're doing is giving each fighter subclass extra resistances to a certain magic dmg type, making each class better at tanking mobs that use the spell type that they have extra resistance to. for zerkers, it seems to be cold dmg; reckless stance and unflinching will both boost cold mitigation by quite a bit.</DIV>

[Khal]

I can't imagine the mitigation is going to stay where it is.  Guardians are reporting haveing the same mitigation in full ebon, as they are in fabled, due to the cap. 

[Svan]

<DIV>didnt know that... maybe not then lol</DIV>

[Khal]

For all I know they may leave it like that.  Fabled gear gives less of an avoidence penalty then Legendary.  They may say that the lesser avoidence penalty and the stats you get from fabled are the reason you want to upgrade.  And mitigation on them will be the same.  I really do not like that though.  We'll see,